Adobe Photoshop CS6 Available for Free Public Beta

[Nostromo]

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I don't think so. I'm a professional video editor I use extended edition.


Although after watching the demo I still see a reason for the weird video editing stuff. The demo didn't show us why it would be better than using premiere or after effects to do those functions.

Either was the demo video so poorly done, or there's nothing else but a video editor there. Why would someone who works on video need something like that? He already has a full video suite.

If Photoshop CS6 could do what After Effects could do (there's a trend in merging applications to give a reason to upgrade), now that would be something.

It was confusing how the lady said "layers" and then just handled clips in a timeline.

 

[macstudent]

Those are rather well-done videos; very much appreciated. I think I may even subscribe to lynda.com now. The host in that Adobe "6 things" clip was speaking just a touch too fast and it was really bugging me.

Your welcome! I am happy that you enjoyed the movies.

 

[wikus]

Because they can.

Because there isn't a viable competitor for professionals. I hate that, and I hate the bloat and DRM and all the crap that comes with it being an Adobe product... but there isn't another option for professionals.

There is one major advantage though;

Compatibility. Suppose Corel was the #2 option with .CDR files for illustrations and .CPT for images (like PSD). You'd then essentially need both the Adobe Creative Suite and the Corel Graphics Suite. You wouldn't be able to use just one because neither have ever really done a decent job importing/exporting to the other format, theres ALWAYS a slight incompatibility and you can't have that when your sending stuff to printers at 25,000 copies thats going to cost the company thousands of dollars and then find out the print job has an error (or many) because of software/file format incompatibilities.

The real solution would be for all companys to make a joint effort in standardizing the file format and everyone makes their own version of their software but all software is compatible. This isnt going to happen though, as the only company out there is Adobe since Corel hasnt released anything in 2 years (X5 was their last effort) and Quark Xpress' marketshare has been rapidly going down the crapper for a number of years due to Indesign (but lets face it, Indesign is way better).

 

[rickdollar]

Those are rather well-done videos; very much appreciated. I think I may even subscribe to lynda.com now. The host in that Adobe "6 things" clip was speaking just a touch too fast and it was really bugging me.

Deke McClelland is probably the most knowledgeable person outside of Adobe when it comes to PS. You can't beat his videos. You'll learn far more than you will ever use. Having him on Lynda is great because his DVD courses used to cost $100's.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Cocoa?

 

[compainter]

How many cores?

How many cores will it actually use?

 

[iCraigy]

Loving the UI!

 

[Finiksa]

And now for the really important question.

Has Adobe finally made a version that will install on a case-sensitive file system?

 

[MacAddict2000]

I'm really not liking how everything is grouped inside of one window, like the Windows version has always been. I like to be able to see through to my desktop and have my separate photos show in Exposé. Anyone know if there's a way to reenable that?

 

[wikus]

I'm really not liking how everything is grouped inside of one window, like the Windows version has always been. I like to be able to see through to my desktop and have my separate photos show in Exposé. Anyone know if there's a way to reenable that?

You can kiss expose goodbye as Mission Control sucks a$$. The elimination of 'all windows at once' (real expose) makes it impossible to drag an object from illustrator, enable expose by hitting a hot corner, selecting the desired photoshop document/window by hovering over it and dropping it in place. This doesnt require any key strokes on the keyboard and not even a single click on the mouse, just drag, hit hot corner, hover and drop.

If Adobe is to have any blame put on them, Apple is equally at fault for failing miserably with Mission Control.

 

[scottrichardson]

One of the most annoying things Adobe did in CS5 was the removal of being able to zoom in/out with the scroll wheel while using the Polygonal Lasso Tool.

Anyone who does precise selections knows what a pain in the ass it is now. Hopefully CS6 will fix that.

I can confirm that this works again!! Im running the beta now.. seems rock solid to me. Saved a file in CS6 then reopened in CS5.1 no problems also.

I'll be buying CS6. Finally a solid update. And the UI is very very nice.

 

[kemo]

Finally black UI - for us working at night!

 

[mdriftmeyer]

Pixelmator is a sweet app. A great 'in-between' choice for those that need more options than Photoshop Elements but not nearly as many as the full version of Photoshop.

However, no professional is going to use Pixelmator in a studio environment. Clients, agencies, studios, etc all use Photoshop, its the gold standard.

The gold standard is the actual talent, not the application.

For instance, those vector tools shown are underwhelming, but then again I'd use Illustrator or if I want to contribute code and extend capabilities I'll focus on Inkscape which is maturing exceedingly well.

If I want to contribute to non-destructive coding I'll contribute code to the GEGL project.

In fact, several of Adobe's own devs sure are interested in Poppler Project which is ironic since Adobe invented PDF.

In short, it's the talent that is key, not the app.

 

[scottrichardson]

It was confusing how the lady said "layers" and then just handled clips in a timeline.

Each clip was also a layer. Each Layer was a clip. The clips were merely the animatable representation of the layers, no?

 

[ZipZapRap]

DRM is made to be broken.

Looking forward to trying it out.

 

[japanime]

Been looking forward to this. Here on the MU Campus, we generally skip every other version of CS (and before that, the standalone Adobe apps). We're still using CS3, though, because the trial version of CS5 just didn't impress us enough (and CS5.5 just seemed to be an extension of that).

CS6 is definitely where our money is going next.

Kudos to Adobe for continuing to develop great apps for Apple, despite the bad blood that exists between the two companies.

 

[wikus]

The gold standard is the actual talent, not the application.

For instance, those vector tools shown are underwhelming, but then again I'd use Illustrator or if I want to contribute code and extend capabilities I'll focus on Inkscape which is maturing exceedingly well.

If I want to contribute to non-destructive coding I'll contribute code to the GEGL project.

In fact, several of Adobe's own devs sure are interested in Poppler Project which is ironic since Adobe invented PDF.

In short, it's the talent that is key, not the app.

Have you worked in marketing, advertising or print? Nobody sends pixelmator format files, everything is PSD. Hence no professional in a studio environment uses it much less relies on it, it'd be suicide.

 

[InuNacho]

Glad this badboy runs on 10.6.8.

 

[wikus]

I can confirm that this works again!! Im running the beta now.. seems rock solid to me. Saved a file in CS6 then reopened in CS5.1 no problems also.

I'll be buying CS6. Finally a solid update. And the UI is very very nice.

SWEET! I'm going to give CS6 a go tomorrow on a secondary partition that I use for testing purposes before adopting it to my everyday partition. I won't switch to CS6 just yet but that feature/fix alone makes me *real* happy to upgrade in the future.

 

[kevinfulton.ca]

Did I miss something or are those "new" camera raw features not that new at all?

That aside, all these features are nice, but none of them fix the biggest issue most people have with Photoshop and that's that it is bloated beyond belief! So few of these new features are things that us professionals would use on a regular basis in Photoshop. Why would I use Photoshop for vectors when I have Illustrator which is way more powerful?! Why would I EDIT and color correct video in Photoshop when I already have After Effects and Premier which deal with those tasks specifically and do a better job?!!! Stop turning Photoshop into something for everything and shed some of that dead weight to give us a fast, high performance, professional PHOTO editing tool with a streamlined UI and work flow that shaves valuable time when working on projects and help make us more money!!........Sorry to go into a rant, but this application has veered way too far from its once glorious roots. If somebody is charging top dollar for professional PHOTO application adding small "cool" features means nothing if you still haven't addressed key work flow issues.

 

[wikus]

Glad this badboy runs on 10.6.8.

Awesome! 10.6.8 runs circles around Lion and Mountain Lion. Anyone who does real work on their computer knows the value of an efficient OS and the benefits it brings them in terms of CPU and RAM usage. That and *all windows at once* expose plays real well with Photoshops open documents.

 

[kevinfulton.ca]

Have you worked in marketing, advertising or print? Nobody sends pixelmator format files, everything is PSD. Hence no professional in a studio environment uses it much less relies on it, it'd be suicide.

If you have ever used Pixalmator you'd know that all your projects can be exported to PSD and TIFF. While my office uses Photoshop I use Pixelmator at home for all of my freelance work. I guess that makes me suicidal

Still trying to find a good replacement for Illustrator though.

 

[the.omnibus]

Cool

The woman in the video is using a MacBook Pro with an anti-glare, high resolution display. This is a BTO option. These "MatteBook Pros" don't have a glossy black bezel.

 

[wikus]

If you have ever used Pixalmator you'd know that all your projects can be exported to PSD and TIFF. While my office uses Photoshop I use Pixelmator at home for all of my freelance work. I guess that makes me suicidal

Still trying to find a good replacement for Illustrator though.

I clearly said in studio, this is my THIRD time now having to say that agencies, studios and clients DO NOT use Pixelmator. One because anything saved in Photoshop wont be supported in Pixelmator, two, even if it is there are issues and three because Pixelmator doesnt exist for Windows which typically clients use to send files to the studios to work on, the account execs who deal with agencies. You guys know there is another *very* popular OS out there, right? This isnt a 'Mac Only World'

For home/personal use, pixelmator should be good enough for the intermediate user even with its limitations compared to photoshop, which holds true as youve stated you use it for freelance.

I should note, if you use Photoshop at work, the EULA allows you to have your own copy installed on your home computer, mirroring the install on your work computer. Both cant be used at the same time, but that doesnt matter since you cant be at home and at work at the same time anyway, lol. Ask your employer fort the install discs and S/N and get the Creative Suite installed on your home computer.

 

[JasonElise1983]

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I think you're looking for Photoshop Elements

He mentioned making "one version" though. I think he wants just one version of Photoshop at a decent cost.

I think he's looking for Pixelmator