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Once again, what the hell are you talking about? My one and only complaint in this thread has been that they have multiple noticeable files across my system that should be combined to one. Please show me what else I've complained about in this thread in relation to flash, I'd love to see it "Mattie Num Nums".
 
You go to System Preferences, then Flash player, Advanced... click on the Check for Updates button... and... it takes you to Adobe website. So you can manually check if version numbers are the same. Great.
 
Once again, what the hell are you talking about? My one and only complaint in this thread has been that they have multiple noticeable files across my system that should be combined to one. Please show me what else I've complained about in this thread in relation to flash, I'd love to see it "Mattie Num Nums".

Don't go home mad...... just go home:D. Honestly I think you're over reacting.
 
Don't go home mad...... just go home:D. Honestly I think you're over reacting.

I'm overreacting because I don't want Adobe's logos plastered all over my system when they could just as easily been in one spot? LOL, OK. Good thing you don't develop any software.


All of this because I was trying to help him eliminate his .prefpane.
Uhh, which part of this don't you understand? Do I have to explain to you again one more time? The preference pane adds functionality that should've been there a while ago. I don't want to delete it. I want the uninstall functionality combined with the preference pane so I don't have multiple visible Adobe files spread throughout my system for a browser plug-in.
 
I just skimmed through so my apologies if this was already posted..

The one option that they should have included is a means to turn Flash off, easily.
 
I'm overreacting because I don't want Adobe's logos plastered all over my system when they could just as easily been in one spot? LOL, OK. Good thing you don't develop any software.



Uhh, which part of this don't you understand? Do I have to explain to you again one more time? The preference pane adds functionality that should've been there a while ago. I don't want to delete it. I want the uninstall functionality combined with the preference pane so I don't have multiple visible Adobe files spread throughout my system for a browser plug-in.
The pref pane is the only new part. So you are over-reacting for this thread, which is about the pref, which is actually an improvement over the previous embedded prefs that failed to work most of the time. (I'm assuming it works now, of course)

The uninstall should really just be part of the browser, so that's what you should be asking for. My other Firefox add-ons (like FlashBlock) all get un/installed by Firefox's system. Except Flash.
 
Just ran a snapshot. It installs 3 files. 2 internet plugin files in ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins and 1 prefPane in ~/Library/PreferencePanes.

I think you are making this installation out to be something more than it is. Its not throwing trash all over your machine. Its installing 3 files.

The pref pane is the only new part. So you are over-reacting for this thread, which is about the pref, which is actually an improvement over the previous embedded prefs that failed to work most of the time. (I'm assuming it works now, of course)

The uninstall should really just be part of the browser, so that's what you should be asking for. My other Firefox add-ons (like FlashBlock) all get un/installed by Firefox's system. Except Flash.

I agree 100%. The browsers should be able to have you disable (like they do with Javascript.) For flash though, FlashBlock does what I need.
 

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The pref pane is the only new part. So you are over-reacting for this thread, which is about the pref, which is actually an improvement over the previous embedded prefs that failed to work most of the time. (I'm assuming it works now, of course)

The uninstall should really just be part of the browser, so that's what you should be asking for. My other Firefox add-ons (like FlashBlock) all get un/installed by Firefox's system. Except Flash.

No, you can't uninstall Flash from any browser as it's part of your system. Not the browser. FlashBlock is irrelevant. The preference pane is new and should've either been not included as a preference pane and been included in the uninstaller in the Utilities folder or the uninstaller should've been moved to the preference pane along with the new preferences.


Just ran a snapshot. It installs 3 files. 2 internet plugin files in ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins and 1 prefPane in ~/Library/PreferencePanes.

I think you are making this installation out to be something more than it is. Its not throwing trash all over your machine. Its installing 3 files.

Check your system preferences. See Flash preferences. Check your Utilities folder. See Flash uninstaller.

These two separate things should be combined, end of story. Anyone who thinks they should be separate is just saying so because they dug themselves in a hole for this argument, such as yourself.
 
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Just ran a snapshot. It installs 3 files. 2 internet plugin files in ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins and 1 prefPane in ~/Library/PreferencePanes.

I think you are making this installation out to be something more than it is. Its not throwing trash all over your machine. Its installing 3 files.



I agree 100%. The browsers should be able to have you disable (like they do with Javascript.) For flash though, FlashBlock does what I need.

Actually, I am surprised that we haven't seen browser developers provide an option for blocking or turning off Flash.. this should really be an option within Safari's Develop menu. Thank again.. I bet, at least in the case of Apple, the do not want to even acknowledge Flash.
 
Actually, I am surprised that we haven't seen browser developers provide an option for blocking or turning off Flash.. this should really be an option within Safari's Develop menu. Thank again.. I bet, at least in the case of Apple, the do not want to even acknowledge Flash.

There are a ton of flash blockers out there including ClickToFlash for Safari.
 
There are a ton of flash blockers out there including ClickToFlash for Safari.

I know, I use them. Still, it would be nice if the Develop menu gave you the ability to disable plugins.. odd that we can't since we can disable everything else.
 
I know, I use them. Still, it would be nice if the Develop menu gave you the ability to disable plugins.. odd that we can't since we can disable everything else.

You can manually disable them by going to the following: Library > Internet Plug-ins

Then dragging which plug-ins you want disabled into the disabled folder.
 
I know, I use them. Still, it would be nice if the Develop menu gave you the ability to disable plugins.. odd that we can't since we can disable everything else.

Firefox provides such an option. In General, go to Manage Add-ons, plug-in tab, select the plug-in and click disable. Faster ways are provide by extensions.
 
An endogenous interface to turn off Flash cookie creation?

This can't be right?
 

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Resolution?

So will this resolve the awful problems with Adobe Flash?

1) Adobe Flash is a resource hog that churns the CPU and can overheat computers.

2) Adobe Flash is a resource hog that wastes bandwidth clogging networks.

3) Adobe Flash content is primarily advertising which has no real value and is distractingly annoying.

4) The remaining Adobe Flash content is almost totally useless glitz that is an annoying waste of screen space and attention.

Somehow I doubt that this upgrade is going to fix any of these problems and certainly not the last two which are the most important issues.
 
Somehow I doubt that this upgrade is going to fix any of these problems and certainly not the last two which are the most important issues.

Adobe is addressing some pretty common complaints with this move.

People have long complained about the settings for "flash cookies" being hidden away.

Improving the update mechanism is also a good step.
 
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1) Adobe Flash is a resource hog that churns the CPU and can overheat computers.

10.2 has been bearable if you have a Mac with supported GPU (9400M, 320M, 330M GT). It's not perfect but won't hog 99% of your CPU anymore. In the end, video playback will always take resources, it's not just the Flash Player.

2) Adobe Flash is a resource hog that wastes bandwidth clogging networks.

Not sure about that but it has never used much bandwidth for me.

3) Adobe Flash content is primarily advertising which has no real value and is distractingly annoying.

Adblocks have existed for years.

4) The remaining Adobe Flash content is almost totally useless glitz that is an annoying waste of screen space and attention.

Adblock removes ~99% of Flash. The remaining Flash is mainly videos and other stuff that you want to see.
 
No, you can't uninstall Flash from any browser as it's part of your system. Not the browser. FlashBlock is irrelevant. The preference pane is new and should've either been not included as a preference pane and been included in the uninstaller in the Utilities folder or the uninstaller should've been moved to the preference pane along with the new preferences.




Check your system preferences. See Flash preferences. Check your Utilities folder. See Flash uninstaller.

These two separate things should be combined, end of story. Anyone who thinks they should be separate is just saying so because they dug themselves in a hole for this argument, such as yourself.

You do actually know what "should" means, yes?
 
You do actually know what "should" means, yes?
Oh, my bad. I thought your post served actual relevance instead of you just imagining different scenarios that don't exist and serve no relevance to the topic at hand.
 
Oh I see, no evidence to support this claim? Just as I thought with the rest of your posts. Tell me when you have something to prove me wrong on why the uninstaller and system preference pane should be separate for a browser plug-in, until then you are just a waste of my time.

I only have an Adobe Air Uninstaller in my Utilities folder.
 
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