Well technically, what is a subscription? It's a monthly fee you pay to use something and when you cancel, you have nothing to show for it.
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Adobe Tests Doubling the Price of Photography Plan With Photoshop and Lightroom
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Well technically, what is a subscription? It's a monthly fee you pay to use something and when you cancel, you have nothing to show for it.
I’m certainly not poverty stricken, and I’ve been buying and using Adobe software since 1988, so your statement is worthless.
Even when I was managing our company’s graphics department I’d vomit a little every time I had to spec new Adobe software.
It’s the principal, something some seem to have lost the way on.
Also, many know the cost of everything but the value of nothing
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I’m still running CS3.
As an amateur photographer who basically just shoots photos on trips and for basic family stuff, I can justify $10/mo for a great editor--even though I go months without using it at all! That calculation doesn't work for me at $20/mo.
Adobe seemed to be trying to take its products to become mass-market products vs niche-market products but it seems they think they can make more money serving a smaller audience... which is really difficult to believe... but possibly true.
I think the whole cloud push just doesn't make sense for most users. Most people only edit photos on a single device... the iPad workflow is just not there yet. Why link my entire workflow to the cloud when it doesn't actually make my workflow any better?! People who have a computer don't seem to need the cloud features and would rather use a more powerful (and faster) desktop app. Give me a $10/mo option without any cloud features.
With Regard to the price people pay for hardware vs software... at least with a nice lens I can sell it for close to what I paid for it! It actually costs alot of money to produce each lens with all the manufacturing costs involved. With software, they literally pay nothing to sell each additional license... so to compare it to a physical item that had manufacturing costs is just comparing apples to oranges.
Adobe seemed to be trying to take its products to become mass-market products vs niche-market products but it seems they think they can make more money serving a smaller audience... which is really difficult to believe... but possibly true.
I think the whole cloud push just doesn't make sense for most users. Most people only edit photos on a single device... the iPad workflow is just not there yet. Why link my entire workflow to the cloud when it doesn't actually make my workflow any better?! People who have a computer don't seem to need the cloud features and would rather use a more powerful (and faster) desktop app. Give me a $10/mo option without any cloud features.
With Regard to the price people pay for hardware vs software... at least with a nice lens I can sell it for close to what I paid for it! It actually costs alot of money to produce each lens with all the manufacturing costs involved. With software, they literally pay nothing to sell each additional license... so to compare it to a physical item that had manufacturing costs is just comparing apples to oranges.
Eh, I’m not sure Fusion really works. AE’s strength is its versatility, whereas Fusion really focuses on FX work. I couldn’t do my animations in Fusion easily or well; there’s some workflows the mode based workflow doesn’t make much sense for.
Thumbs up to this approach. I've also thrown away my old HP laptop.
I have done exactly the same except I have licensed CS6 32bit running on a Parallels XP VM and CS6 64bit on a Win10 VM. I've disconnected the XP VM from the network and run it with no AntiVirus on an iMac 27" 4.2 GHz Intel Core i7 1TB SSD and 24 GB memory. The Win10 VM does connect to the network and has AntiVirus.
From a standing start, Parallels then WinXP then CS6 will open in 33 seconds. If WinXP is already up, CS6 opens in 3 (three) seconds. If Parallels desktop only is running, BOTH WinXP and Win10 desktops will fire up in about 16 seconds.
I did try a 2 month trial of CC, but saw little gain over the old CS6 for my needs. So, even at 9.99 I wasn't interested. But at 19.99, over one year that's about $240/yr, or $2,400 over 10. If you are a professional or a business, it's an expense (vs capital depreciation) write off on their taxes. For me, it's just a heck ov a lot of money.
So what are the lightroom alternatives? I'd really like to avoid subscriptions.
Affinity photo seems like more of a replacement for photoshop than lightroom. And I don't use photoshop. It's a bit of a pain to move files so you can work on the same file between desktop and PC with it. Yes, icloud drive and it's fine for a few files but when working with thousands of moving to drive, import on ipad, edit, export, import on mac, etc. Creative cloud made that seamless.
I've heard good things about darkroom.
Pixelmator?
Capture one Pro looks good but it's damn expensive. Looking for cheaper options.
Affinity photo seems like more of a replacement for photoshop than lightroom. And I don't use photoshop. It's a bit of a pain to move files so you can work on the same file between desktop and PC with it. Yes, icloud drive and it's fine for a few files but when working with thousands of moving to drive, import on ipad, edit, export, import on mac, etc. Creative cloud made that seamless.
I've heard good things about darkroom.
Pixelmator?
Capture one Pro looks good but it's damn expensive. Looking for cheaper options.
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I'm seeing a lot of photographers now seriously starting to look at Adobe alternatives. I'm already a Capture One Pro user. I've been hearing a lot of good things about Affinity. Going to be downloading a trial version soon. If I need a page layout program, QuarkXpress will be back on my docket instead of InDesign...
Or I go back to my CS6 Design Suite...
Tried both Pixelmator Photo and Darkroom for iPad. Both excellent, but they do lack some features (e.g. the ability to adjust only parts of a photo). So I went for lightroom and it is quite good. For my workflow, the cloud sync is really a huge benefit that Pixelmator and Darkroom do not support (and I always find the import from camera roll and then either store in the app or re-export too cumbersome to really work. With lightroom and CC cloud it gets much easier, and the workflow is good with the Mac as well (plus originals can be stored on a NAS))
Any ideas on an Indesign replacement? Procreate/Affinity Designer is almost perfect for illustration (once the iPad pro's get a little better at handling huge files for commercial work) but finding a decent alternative to indesign has been tough.
When Adobe started its subscription model, I dumped ALL their products, rethought my approach towards photography (and usage model), and headed in a different direction. Instead of camera bodies, lenses, tripods, bags, processing, categorizing, organizing, etc., I’ve substituted the latest iPhone and Google Photos (I am paying for uncompressed storage), and have been enjoying taking pictures. Can it do everything? No. Is it as good? No. However, the freedom has been worth it. Doubling the price? Makes me even happier about my decision.
Adobe being as scummy as Apple.
Meanwhile, Affinity is still the same price and just as powerful as Photoshop.
Plus, it doesn't have a monthly rental fee like Creative Cloud.
Guess who will get my money in the end.
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Meanwhile, Affinity is still the same price and just as powerful as Photoshop.
Plus, it doesn't have a monthly rental fee like Creative Cloud.
Guess who will get my money in the end.
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Affinity works great from what I have experienced. Used it on the road and it felt just like Photoshop. Just smoother and without the monthly fee.
$120 is a lot of money. Enough to break many hobby budgets.
That's what you get when you support renting your software instead of buying it.
When you get locked in, you are screwed.
That's why I will never accept any type of monthly payment for my software/games/movies/music.
When you get locked in, you are screwed.
That's why I will never accept any type of monthly payment for my software/games/movies/music.
Not sure I completely agree. There are some really decent products out there, like Acorn and Pixelmator, which are an order of magnitude more powerful than Photos and pretty user friendly. Some do plugins well, and there are a host of great third party masking apps (I use FluidMask, which is excellent and has helpful tutorials) which don’t require a doctorate in computer science. The pros are sort of locked in, but there are options for those willing to break out of the (increasingly expensive) Adobubble.
I read that again and again, but what alternative do I have for the DAM part of Lightroom?
The Googlator just found these, and I’m sure there are more:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4280776
https://www.shuttermuse.com/best-digital-asset-management-software/