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I was gonna pay them their usual $120/year. Now they can have 0, glad they figured out how to lose $10 when trying to find $20. I’ll find near-equivalent options without significant effort. Funny, had they tried $12 I wouldn’t have noticed.
 
I expected this fire to rain down upon me and it brings me joy.

Everything is relative. You buy a $400k house, but then might say to yourself, $50 is too much for a steak. Buy a $50k vehicle... complain when gas goes up $0.30. Just because there are expensive things in life doesn't justify everything else being expensive compared to the market.

When you look how much you're paying for software and the price of other alternatives, the doubling of a price is a little much. I really wish Apple wouldn't have given up on aperture.

Also, most photographers that aren't the best in the area still struggle to justify spending money on a hard drive to backup photos. In fact, what may happen is they'll start to lose their market because the beginner and hobbyist photographers will no longer use Lightroom and go with another alternative.
Yeah, there are a lot of alternatives out there, Like Capture One that people seem to enjoy. People should go use that instead if they want to get Adobe's attention and send a message that they don't care about cloud storage. Maybe they will never have to come back. Being serious. I would love for a smaller developer to compete more. I love using Affinity's software on my Mac/iPad. But you know what? People were insanely pissed off when they switched to subscription only everything, and Adobe has only massively increased their revenues since then. They probably have numbers that many people are just using it with storage already, and as I said in a later post, they probably were going to raise prices anyway and are testing to see if this is the best way to go by splitting the difference in declining cloud costs and increasing development costs. Now we'll probably end up with a $15/mo standard plan and a $25/mo 1TB plan, lol. $20.


Adobe CEO in the house.
You caught me! I've been lurking in the shadows on MacRumors for 11 years with 10,000 posts just so that I can shill for them using gorilla PR tactics. Boom! I'm also "the Russians" everybody talks about on the TV. Be scared.

This. I'm a graphic designer and I pay my bills using Adobe software. I pay $52 a month, but it pays for itself during the first hour of usage alone. Don't tell them but I'd pay $100 without complaint.
Finally a sane person. I have the same thing just for freelance side work, and my work also pays for a license for my work Mac. It pays for itself so fast!

No, I bet the pro photographers you mention don’t bat much of an eye at Adobe’s cost of managing their photos, as it is their livelihood. However, this pricing pushes on the hobbyists who like to post-process for recreation. This “photographer” is a hobbyist with a $500 camera that just doesn’t see an incentive in a monthly fee for software. I did, however, see the value in buying LR6 with the notion of using it for my very light workload. I might have even upgraded it every few years if there was value in doing so. I’m not committing $120 to $240 annually for this hobby.

The word "Photographer" is a little vague. You are absolutely 100% correct if by "Photographer" you mean the professionals shooting for Sports Illustrated, Time, National Geographic, etc.

However, for every one of those professionals, there are hundreds (if not thousands) of amateurs who enjoy photography with a consumer or prosumer level camera. They may have $500 to $3,000 wrapped up in all of their equipment and they don't make a dime from it because they are hobbyists. I believe they are the ones who were OK spending $120 per year on PS but they don't want to spend $240 per year on it.

Yeah yeah, I addressed this just a few posts down, still on the first page of comments. And again, there are a lot of cheaper alternatives that are pretty good that are coming to market like I mentioned above. Cancel your service and migrate your catalog to one of these promising startups.
 
Photographer: Doesn't blink at spending $1500-5000 on a new lens, or $3000-5000 on a new camera body, or $300-800 on a new tripod, or $400-900 on a new flash, or $150 a pop on new UHS-II SD cards, or $800-3000 on a Thunderbolt RAID setup and SSDs, or $3000-7000 on a new Mac, or $800-2000 on a second and third display, or thousands of dollars on lighting equipment and backdrops and travel and paying models and grips.

Also photographer: Freaks out at having to pay Adobe a couple hundred bucks a year to edit, organize, share, and store all of their photos.

There is a major difference between software and hardware. I'm really reluctant to expend money on software. Why? Warranty, that's why. The software is the only industry that offers you no warranty at all. If your expensive camera broke, there's a manufacturer behind that will fix or replace it for free. Software fail? 3 hours editing on Photoshop gone? Lightroom erased your entire library? Call Adobe and try to get a refund...ask Dave Cooper that is suing them for 250k.

Also, there is ownership. That expensive camera can be sold when you not longer need it, or you can keep it and use until you die, you can gift it, donate it. With software, you never own anything. You are renting a service that can or can't be available in the future. In iOS/Mac we recently had the case of Ulysses, that after sell both iOS and Mac versions of his software, changed course, made it obsolete and started selling a subscription for a new version offering zero refunds...

Just last week, I was looking at my iOS purchases. Almost 70% of my purchased apps are no longer available even for download. What a waste of money.

Proprietary clouds, file formats and subscriptions needs to be avoided at all cost. Once you bite, you are a prisoner for the rest of your life and you will need to pay what they want...
 
I miss being able to own the software, even with paid upgrades.

I think this explains a good bit of the anger. You used to be able to buy Photoshop, and use it for several years. If you only upgraded every second or third cycle, it was cheaper than the $9.99/month subscription. So now, it's WAY more expensive than the purchased solution.

In theory, the annual updates would provide some value to offset that, but they've been so weak I haven't even bothered to install them.

Didn't Adobe promise they wouldn't do this exact thing (jack prices way up) when they went to the subscription?
 
I’m fine with just organizing photos myself and using the Photos app for a small collection of photos for RAW editing and something like Pixelmator Pro for layers and local adjustments. It’s clear that tying yourself to any one DAM is a dead end and will just leave you disappointed. They’re all dying or going subscription only with never ending price hikes. Lightroom Classic used to be 150 dollars. Now it’s 240 a year. Capture One probably won’t stay perpetual for long.
 
There is a major difference between software and hardware. I'm really reluctant to expend money on software. Why? Warranty, that's why. The software is the only industry that offers you no warranty at all. If your expensive camera broke, there's a manufacturer behind that will fix or replace it for free. Software fail? 3 hours editing on Photoshop gone? Lightroom erased your entire library? Call Adobe and try to get a refund...ask Dave Cooper that is suing them for 250k.

Also, there is ownership. That expensive camera can be sold when you not longer need it, or you can keep it and use until you die, you can gift it, donate it. With software, you never own anything. You are renting a service that can or can't be available in the future. In iOS/Mac we recently had the case of Ulysses, that after sell both iOS and Mac versions of his software, changed course, made it obsolete and started selling a subscription for a new version offering zero refunds...

Just last week, I was looking at my iOS purchases. Almost 70% of my purchased apps are no longer available even for download. What a waste of money.

Proprietary clouds, file formats and subscriptions needs to be avoided at all cost. Once you bite, you are a prisoner for the rest of your life and you will need to pay what they want...
What you're saying is always going to be true though. Software is always a license and never owned. OS updates almost always break things, given enough time. Development to fix things costs actual money that companies have to pay workers along with healthcare and retirement. The world isn't magical. And is it a waste of money if you got use out of it? That's like saying you used a camera for four years and it broke beyond repair outside of warranty, so the whole purchase was just a waste. Everything breaks eventually. Everything stops working. Nothing is permanent. Not one thing.

Just wait until Apple switches from Intel in the next year or two. People are going to lose their minds at how much software and hardware becomes obsolete in the next five years. It's going to be like the finger snap at the end of Infinity War.
 
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These are PROFESSIONAL TOOLS and should cost as such. I never hear people complaining that a good table saw is $900+ or a decent camera can be over $3000. Anyone who is complaining was probably pirating Photoshop to begin with and I have zero sympathy. Affinity Photo is $50 and its fantastic.
 
Photoshop via subscription is a life sucking abyss. Adobe owns all your images until eternity if you ever save them out as .psd.
Subscription based photoshop is enough incentive to give up digital photography and computers forever, that's how vile it is.
Huh? There’s many alternatives. You don’t even need to edit photos anyways, just get a Fuji and use the film presets.
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Sadly, Lightroom mobile is a strong product and I feel a lot of people aren't willing to give it up.
They still have a 5 dollar mobile plan with 100GB. If it had the desktop version too it would be a great deal.
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Yeah, I guess it sucks for regular users who just do it as a hobby. But for real photographers it's a drop in the bucket. I bet what happened is their cloud costs have dropped and their regular development costs have increased with inflation so they are wanting to increase the price and are hoping to see this as a way to do it without seeming like it.
I think the price is just coming back down to earth. The photography deal started as a promotion and was never meant to last. It was too cheap compared to 19.99 standalone apps.
 
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What you're saying is always going to be true though. Software is always a license and never owned. OS updates almost always break things, given enough time. Development to fix things costs actual money that companies have to pay workers along with healthcare and retirement. The world isn't magical. And is it a waste of money if you got use out of it? That's like saying you used a camera for four years and it broke beyond repair outside of warranty, so the whole purchase was just a waste. Everything breaks eventually. Everything stops working. Nothing is permanent. Not one thing.

Just wait until Apple switches from Intel in the next year or two. People are going to lose their minds at how much software and hardware becomes obsolete in the next five years. It's going to be like the finger snap at the end of Infinity War.

I far prefer Thanos' offer of 50% odds than what Tim's proposing.
 
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Capitalism at its finest right here. “We can piss off and lose half of our subscribers, if we DOUBLE the price. More profits, shareholders will love us, and we have fewer people to keep happy!” This subscription model will continue until it’s run right into the ground—they all know that it’s not sustainable at this pace. Yet they will do it anyway, because they exist to please only shareholders.

They don't care about the shareholders.

Much like communism, shareholders are a red herring. When was the last time shareholders were able to whack the C level executives or the board members.

This is all about the stock price - and the executive compensation that is tied to it.
 
I think Adobe CC subscribers went a long way in helping create the world they are currently in by simply subscribing. I stayed with the CS6 suite and Lightroom 6 because I don't do software subscriptions. The next version of MacOS will break CS6 so I either stay with Mojave the rest of my life or find a Photoshop replacement. I own Capture One, so I can live without Lightroom and I find little thrill in upgrading MacOS just to get 10 new emojis which is about all Apple does anymore anyway.
Are you sure cs6 will break? Does it have 32 bit dependencies?
 
If you’re a professional photographer and make your living out of it by earning $2000 a month for example. $20 is just a 1% of your earning that is also tax deductible. 1%...
 



Adobe today quietly debuted new pricing for its Photography bundle, which has long been available for $9.99 per month. Starting today, Adobe's website is listing a price tag of $19.99 per month, which is double the previous price.

The bundle includes access to Photoshop CC, Lightroom CC, and Lightroom Classic, and is aimed at photographers. In a statement provided to PetaPixel, Adobe said that it is testing new pricing tiers.

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Most users appear to be seeing the updated pricing on the Adobe website, but there is a hidden section of the site where one can still purchase the Photography plan for $9.99 per month.

The new plan does offer 1TB of storage instead of 20GB of storage, but for those who do not use Adobe storage, the new pricing doubles the cost with no added benefit.

It is not clear if Adobe is planning permanent pricing changes for its Photography plan or if prices are going to change for existing subscribers in the future. If you previously signed up for the Photography option, you're likely paying $9.99 per month at the current time.

Adobe offers other plans, pricing a single app at $20.99 and access to all apps at $52.99 per month, but it has offered the lower-cost $9.99 per month Photography plan option since 2013.

Article Link: Adobe Tests Doubling the Price of Photography Plan With Photoshop and Lightroom

I’ve been using Adobe products since the very beginning. If they double the rate on me; then I’m out of there! Besides, as much as I like using Lightroom, it has never been easy to post content links on the web.
 
Still on Photoshop CS6 and Sierra. I don't know what I will do because I know I will eventually need to upgrade.
LOL, I’m on CS3 and Mavericks. Both work perfectly well, and not full of fluff features of the newer versions (app and os).
 
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