Adobe to Unveil Creative Suite 4 on September 23rd

[MBX]

jesus they just came out with CS3

I thought so too. But maybe time just passes us by without us noticing. We can't keep up anymore, our brains are overwhelmed with the todays technology and information flow.

On another note the CS4 release might be an indicator of new MacBook Pro's, who knows.

 

[l'homme]

When is Apple going to introduce an Adobe CS like?!
I'm getting sick of Adobe's preference to Windows user base.

Adobe went from Mac niche to Windows mainstream, that's a good money maker equation for Adobe, but isn't a deal for Mac users and product quality at all.

Bring it on Apple!

 

[AidenShaw]

Without 64-bit, it's not worth it.

Bad decision on Adobe's part. They knew Apple's 64-bit roadmap once Leopard was released.

Adobe thought that they knew Apple's 64-bit roadmap during Leopard betas - but Apple screwed them by changing the plan and withdrawing needed support.

They knew that there'd be a far greater 64-bit user base on OSX than Windows x64.

Or maybe not....

"the installed base of 64-bit Vista systems 'has more than tripled in the U.S. in the last three months.'"

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15239

Sorry about adding some facts to your opinions....

The good knews is that they've now got the time and incentive to work on redoing Photoshop in Cocoa. CS5 should be a good one.

Or not. Perhaps by 2010 all the serious graphics professionals will be using 64-bit CS4 on Windows 7 x64 (the Vista kit will run on Windows 7), and Adobe might decide that 32-bit Carbon is all that the amateur Apple users need.

Apple changed their publicly committed deliverables, no issue if Adobe does the same, right?

to give them some slack...Apple already moved to 64 bit with the G5 and then did a nice sh*t in the face of its developers by moving back to 32-bit with intel.

So true - Apple was stupid to ship any Yonah systems. If they'd waited a few months more for Merom - then all Intel Apples would have been x64 systems.

It may have made sense for earnings for one quarter, but it doesn't make sense for the platform. Dumb move, Jobs. Really dumb move.

 

[motulist]

I am not a graphic artist, so please clear this up for me. Photoshop is already so uber-powerful, what the heck else can this new version offer that you care about?

 

[nostaws]

Speaking of Macromedia:

I want Freehand back!

Sorry, I couldn't resist But I do miss it

 

[zoozx]

This CS crap is annoying. Insignificant upgrades, ridiculous pricing.
More bells and whistles without any new usable professional tools.

 

[Kevin L.]

Argh! I just bought CS3, but I could have waited a month for CS4. Now it will cost something like $400 MORE if I want to update to the "latest". (Not that I really care about the latest features, but it's always frustrating buying something then finding out it's already outdated... kinda like the nano I just bought.)

 

[thebrain74]

I do sympathize with those who hate what Adobe has done to certain Macromedia products. I myself was sorry to see Freehand go as I learned Vector art on it, and probably would have never got Illustrator if Macromedia hadn't been bought. That being said Illustrator does kick the pants off of Freehand. I'm not convinced its interface is better, but boy can it do stuff Freehand can only dream of. Gradient Mesh, Are you kidding me! That alone nearly revolutionized my vector work.

I think I will skip CS4 though, I just got CS3 last year, and even with the student discount it wasn't cheep (I know, I know its priced for professionals, and I use it for jobs not just to play around, still $$$$). I still need to uncover more of CS3's tricks before I will feel the need for CS4. CS5 sound like it could be a solid release though.

I am torn between Apple pro-apps and Adobe apps though. I like Illustrator and Photoshop (to a point, but god its interface is bad), I can't decide between Aperture and Lightroom, but I have been very effective in FCE.

P.S. why is Bridge so darn slow? (I am on a MBP 2.2SR with 4gig ram)

 

[wheezy]

Ya know, if Adobe upgrades their stupid Updater to not hog your entire system when it randomly starts, then CS4 might be a good idea. </half sarcasm>

I think Adobe is superior in the creative field, but I think the pricing is pretty steep. And I hope they drop the 30 different kinds of 'packages' you can buy (Vista anyone?) and just let you "a'la'carte" the apps you want, pick 2 for $xxxx, 3 for $xx,xxx or all of them for $arm_and_leg.01.

 

[Moof1904]

Speaking of Macromedia:

I want Freehand back!

Sorry, I couldn't resist But I do miss it

Yeah, me too, but FreeHand was dead before the Adobe merger. Macromedia had put FreeHand in "maintenance mode" and moved its bug-fix only maintenance to India long before the Adobe thing.

 

[Analog Kid]

to give them some slack...Apple already moved to 64 bit with the G5 and then did a nice sh*t in the face of its developers by moving back to 32-bit with intel.

I know, and then they went and shipped 32bit ARM processors in iPhone...

No wonder Adobe is screwing over Mac professionals.

"the installed base of 64-bit Vista systems 'has more than tripled in the U.S. in the last three months.'"

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15239

Sorry about adding some facts to your opinions....

Some Vista team blog post says Vista 64 is selling gangbusters, really, you gotta believe me, and that's a fact?

Not that the original comment had any support, but you're not refuting it any more strongly. Even if they did triple a small number, it doesn't suggest Vista64 is a majority of 64bit Adobe users.

 

[skellener]

Macromedia had put FreeHand in "maintenance mode"...

Snow Leopard if forcing Adobe to FINALLY rewrite their creaky old code. Amen! Hopefully we'll finally see some speed improvements and native support from them. They should have done this YEARS ago but waited and milked the public for almost a decade. It's time for Mac users to put upgrading their Adobe apps in "maintenance mode". Just wait for CS5.

 

[jmooring]

Take Apple's approach to Snow Leopard and work on stability

I'd like to see some persistent bugs crushed before I pony up for a whole new version. I'm interested in benefits, not features.

 

[danbirchall]

Aw, man...

I *just* bought CS3.3, because some folks I work with have been harassing me to get CS3 ever since one of them got a Vista laptop that can't run CS2.

They'd better not ask me to get CS4. I really don't want to buy any more Adobe products until they're in Cocoa.

 

[MBX]

To be honest Photoshop CS4 does have some hot new features.

It's not true that Adobe doesn't release good enough updates. Maybe that was true before CS3 but CS3 was a major update imho with some great features i can't live without today anymore in the photoshop world. I also welcomed the cool interface redesign.

It's a shame the 64bit version won't be available until CS5 but then again time fly's by quickly.

 

[Eddyisgreat]

BS. I'll believe it when I see it. Besides Microsoft, I think Adobe has one of the slowest roll outs when it comes to new releases. Maybe we'll see CS4 by the end of 2009.

Lol ok.

Keep saying that by the end of this year.

 

[Saladinos]

Soundbooth CS4 Non-beta!!!

Finally I can officially ditch Apple "pro" audio apps entirely!

Is Soundbooth really that good? From what I've read, it's a non-pro application (I've used Audition in the past, and wasn't blown away. This is apparently a babified version).

Logic Studio seems perfectly fine for me. It's one of Apple's better pro applications IMO.

 

[Eddyisgreat]

Ya know, if Adobe upgrades their stupid Updater to not hog your entire system when it randomly starts, then CS4 might be a good idea. </half sarcasm>

I think Adobe is superior in the creative field, but I think the pricing is pretty steep. And I hope they drop the 30 different kinds of 'packages' you can buy (Vista anyone?) and just let you "a'la'carte" the apps you want, pick 2 for $xxxx, 3 for $xx,xxx or all of them for $arm_and_leg.01.

LoL

There are currently 5 or so packages available, one thats cost effective for graphic artists, video professionals, web designers, or all of the above.

If that doesn't work for you, just grab a single App or two.

 

[Tosser]

Is Soundbooth really that good? From what I've read, it's a non-pro application (I've used Audition in the past, and wasn't blown away. This is apparently a babified version).

Logic Studio seems perfectly fine for me. It's one of Apple's better pro applications IMO.

It solely depends what you do. If you're doing music, then it's a no-no, but for my line of work SB CS4 is just the ticket, allowing me to do my work faster than before. I came from Peak+Deck, then tried STP for a while, returned to Peak+Deck, and when SB CS3 came out, I used that in combination ith first STP, then with Deck again.
With the advent of SB CS4, I can not only do my work faster (and thus better, as the trade off if working slow), but I get to use it crossplatform as well, which, to me, is worth much more than twice the app cost (I'm tired of having to work with protools and the like for what I do).

Is it a baby app? I don't think so. And if you must think of it as a baby app, then think of lightroom/aperture in relation to Photoshop. Yes it does less, but for what it is intended it's a much more effective app.

Anyway, the value of any app certainly depends what you're using it for.

 

[kaiwai]

What I'd love to see is a 'Home and Student' package which includes more than just one user licence. It isn't as though they'll lose money because of it.

 

[MindBrain]

What's the general consensus on Adobe CS3 and how well it runs on MacOS Leopard as compared to WinXP?? I've always preferred MacOS to Windows and I'm looking to get a Mac Laptop and Adobe CS3 or 4 but I hear about bugs and stuff running on Leopard (that were not present in Tiger)

Like I said I'd prefer to use MacOS but if the current functionality is better on WinXP I'd have to go ahead and get a Windows laptop, considering I can apply a few tweaks to XP that make it somewhat maclike (mainly the Objectdock program)

So what's the current state of CS3 on MacOS Leopard??? How about CS4 is there any current info on how it is functioning on Mac???

 

[Master Atrus]

Like It ...

What's the general consensus on Adobe CS3 and how well it runs on MacOS Leopard as compared to WinXP?? I've always preferred MacOS to Windows and I'm looking to get a Mac Laptop and Adobe CS3 or 4 but I hear about bugs and stuff running on Leopard (that were not present in Tiger)

Like I said I'd prefer to use MacOS but if the current functionality is better on WinXP I'd have to go ahead and get a Windows laptop, considering I can apply a few tweaks to XP that make it somewhat maclike (mainly the Objectdock program)

So what's the current state of CS3 on MacOS Leopard??? How about CS4 is there any current info on how it is functioning on Mac???

I've been using CS 3 and now CS 3.3 on my MacBook for about a year now and I think it does great. My performance was much better on my MacBook Pro, but I ran into some computer trouble (my wife took it from me )

I'm afraid I don't know anything about CS4 other than the beta of Dreamweaver and Fireworks I've been using and I must admit that I like the new layout. But to each his / her own.

There's my two cents and I gave it for free ...

 

[alphaod]

First time I can't pay student price

 

[moz5835]

C*** S*** 4

I really enjoy Dreamweaver CS3 because it made the previous, non-Intel version look archaic and snail-paced on my 2006 Mac Mini Core Duo. Damn shame that's all it brought to my Mac party, but that's why I bought it.

Wait, wait - there's more. If you want some muscle - hand Adobe another bunch of $299 and the Developer's Toolkit is yours. I did that too.

Having handed over a fair chunk of personal (yes - not company) cash for this software I felt I needed, I have now learned to love it.

I started with Homesite. Beautiful software because it was so specific in purpose. It worked and had no surprises. It let me do what I needed to with all the help I needed when I needed it.

Homesite was absorbed into Dreamweaver by Macromedia. They were a company kinda cool because of Flash (which they also acquired).

Macromedia was small enough to care about Homesite, made Dreamweaver accommodate the Homesite crew and pulled us into the new world of what DW became in version 8. Bloatware aside (and any DW automated code was FAT back in DW 3, pre-Homesite).

Adobe bought out Macromedia. Love Adobe. Photoshop was the definitive standard for image editing, so this must be good.

Turns out not to be. JSP support fails. ASP - almost gone. Dreamweaver becomes the anti-Homesite. Somewhere in-between designers and coders. Casual web devs don't have 400 notes kicking about.

Worse still, better alternatives like Coda surfaced without the sticker shock or bloat.

So... Adobe... CS4. Yeh? What's in it for me? If the alpha/beta Adobe Labs code was anything to go by - a UI change sums it up.

Ben

bnlv.com

 

[MindBrain]

I've been using CS 3 and now CS 3.3 on my MacBook for about a year now and I think it does great. My performance was much better on my MacBook Pro, but I ran into some computer trouble (my wife took it from me )

I'm afraid I don't know anything about CS4 other than the beta of Dreamweaver and Fireworks I've been using and I must admit that I like the new layout. But to each his / her own.

There's my two cents and I gave it for free ...

What exactly is CS 3.3? I remember people complaining about it being an update you had to pay for? Others saying it adds good features and is worth it.

In addition to adding features does it also fix bugs? I mean are there bug fixes you get in 3.3 that you can't get in 3?

I'm assuming if you buy CS3 now it automatically comes with 3.3 is this true?

If I decide to get a Mac laptop I'm gonna have to get it within the next couple months along with CS3 or 4 cause now I'm enrolled in school and I'll get the discount and I probably won't be enrolled for a while after this semester.

So what's the deal, do I wait for the next laptop refresh and get one with CS3? Get one and wait for CS4? Get a Windows XP and get CS3 or 4?

I'm thinking to get a Macbook or Macbook Pro when they're updated and get CS3 and forget CS4. But I don't know, I just want what will be most stable and smooth running.If CS 4 has that then I'd wait.