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Adobe to Unveil Creative Suite 4 on September 23rd
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Nice. Given the thread history, I obviously meant potential 64bit users when CS4 was developed...
~18 months is pretty standard. Apple generally releases their OS updates within a similar timeframe. Not sure how you can compare that to Microsoft...
Good Timing
I have read alot of negative comments about adobe and CS3 ect... but Im happy about this update, Ive just started college and hopefully getting a new rumored MBP (when they come out) which should hopefully be released around the same time as CS4, My college still uses CS2 though and MP G4's running OSX 3.somin'
But this is good timing for me to get a student version
I have read alot of negative comments about adobe and CS3 ect... but Im happy about this update, Ive just started college and hopefully getting a new rumored MBP (when they come out) which should hopefully be released around the same time as CS4, My college still uses CS2 though and MP G4's running OSX 3.somin'
But this is good timing for me to get a student version
Don't know if anyone else in the UK has spotted this, but Adobe have knocked about 10% off the list price of Creative Suite Design Premium (v3.3) - probably as a sweetener in the run-up to the release of CS4.
Ex VAT price is now only £1249...
Ex VAT price is now only £1249...
Don't know if anyone else in the UK has spotted this, but Adobe have knocked about 10% off the list price of Creative Suite Design Premium (v3.3) - probably as a sweetener in the run-up to the release of CS4.
Ex VAT price is now only £1249...
DO NOT BUY directly from Adobe. The upgrade price from CS2 to CS 3.3 on Adobe's online store was about $800.
We just got it for like $350 from Amazon
Uggh! Can't stand either of them. I just cannot get my head around the RW workflow and its lack of true WYSIWYG. It drives me crazy having to switch back and forth between edit and preview.
If you already had CS3, going to CS3.3 is NOT worth it, unless you need Acrobat Pro 9 (which is all that is in the CS3.3 upgrade pack). None of the other apps changed.
well f*** me I'm positively moist in anticipation...
I can't wait for another couple of hours reinstall a new loading screen and a couple of new filters, I just installed an old copy of PS6 and it's bloody quick how come cs3 is so slow on the same system? Is this progress or just taking the piss?
I can't wait for another couple of hours reinstall a new loading screen and a couple of new filters, I just installed an old copy of PS6 and it's bloody quick how come cs3 is so slow on the same system? Is this progress or just taking the piss?
I hope they went through www.dearadobe.com with a fine toothcomb. We don't want new features, we want them to improve existing features and trim down the bloat.
Yes, I agree that is true, however using the most up to date software that is widely considered as the industry standard is a good idea. A year from now I will have graduated and be applying to design firms that will require that knowledge.
Many businesses required CS3 knowledge not long after it was introduced for their new employees. I would be slow and off not to follow suit.
on a side note however, I grew up on macromedia freehand and have missed it since its untimely death. Illustrator should have taken a page from its book, that is for damn sure.
Hell, most of my customers cant even turn on the computer, and most of the printing-firms and prepresses i work here do have CorelDRAW.
On of the three prepress studios that exists here in my region have a few Macs with QuarkXpress 4 & 5... but, they finally got a RIP, that can handle PostScript 3
180 Million is a small number?
That is 180M total Vista sales (of which 20% are x64, so 36M), hardly the failure some would have you believe, how many Macs were sold in the same time period
Edit: In answer to my own question, around 14.5M
The real story in my earlier post is the shift to x64 Vista - an increasing percentage of Vista sales are for x64. Computer companies are selling 4 GiB systems and they need 64-bit to use it all. As memory prices drop, this trend will continue to grow.
Since Microsoft requires x64 support to get the Vista logo, there's not much worry about buying something and it not working on 64-bit.
I have to disagree, I've been a Flash developer for a handful of years and I must say that since the days of Future Splash, the introduction of Actionscript 3.0 in Flash CS3 was the biggest leap that the Flash platform ever had! Actionscript 1 and 2 made no sense at all (imo), it was completely incoherent as a language and just horrible at doing basic stuff like loading and managing XML data.
The thing that still bothers me is that the performance of Flash Player 9 on Mac OS X seems slower (slower, not slow) than on the Windows side. I think that must be Adobe's fault and I've read that the next Flash Player 10 will have a big performance leap on the Mac side, I seriously hope that's true.
As for people saying that CS3 had no high value features I must say that, as far as I'm concerned, there was one main feature that justified the upgrade: Native support on Intel Macs! I had a horrible experience trying to run CS2 apps through Rosetta on an Intel Mac so the performance increase for me was more than enough, coupled with the better integration of Illustrator/Photoshop with Flash, win/win
I just hope that people Adobe can get Flash where it's supposed to be. Flash nowadays is just seen as an annoyance and a way to make animated/obtrusive ads that pop-out from everywhere. That is not what it's supposed to be!
Flash can be a very significant part of the internet if done right!
The problem is that the world is filled with "2 weeks watching tutorials" Flash "developers" that don't really know anything about Deep Linking, SEO, having a liquid layout, XML driven website structures and all the good basics that conscious Flash developers worry about.
Apple and Adobe have to solve their issues with one another.
What the hell am I going to do if Flash CS6 goes Windows only? Use Windows as my work OS?
Please....... nooooooooo
BTW, sorry for the long post, I had to vent...
I understand your pain... I am a Flash developer and even I have FlashBlock installed on Firefox because of the abuse that people use Flash for. But that's the same problem with a whole bunch of different technologies, I guess dumb people and bad professionals are everywhere right?
I'm just saying that it can be done right, if it's the right team building the UI and programming the website/application.
Are you telling me that Vista sells something like 2 billion copies a year? The only 20% number I see is as a percentage of units sold in June of '08, so if they're selling 180M units in June total, and we assume that's close to the average run rate, then they're selling something like 2.1billion units a year.
No, wait, Gates says they sold 140M units over the life of the product. That's 40 million more than he claimed about 4 months earlier, so we can assume a run rate of something on the order of 10M units a month. From this, we can pull two numbers:
20% of 10M is 2M.
3% of 10M is 300k.
And yes, I consider 300k a small number in the Windows world.
All of this, of course, assumes that just because someone connected to Windows update once they're continuing to use Vista64. Everything we know about Vista so far suggests that a lot of people are trying it and reverting to earlier versions-- I would expect to see this happen much more for the 64bit version which would induce more compatibility issues. Maybe they aren't changing back to XP, but could easily be changing to 32bit Vista.
Now, I don't know how many Macs have been sold in that time but what you really want to compare against is the installed base of Macs since Apple has been shipping 64bit hardware in some proportion since mid 2003.
No, the real story of your earlier post was meant to be adding facts to opinions, where Vista team blog posts substituted for facts:
Talking about the shift towards Vista64 is an attempt to change the context from the original point which was that Adobe could have anticipated a larger 64bit user base on OS X, which turns out to look correct:
That said, I'm not surprised that some Windows users are finding they want more than 3GB of RAM... I can't believe they've gone this long without it. So yes, I expect Windows 64bit numbers to continue to grow.
// CS1 pricing
// CS2 pricing
// CS3 pricing
init CS4 pricing()
{
float us_price;
float uk_price;
float conversionrate;
//calculate UK price
uk_price = (us_price*conversionrate)*2.5 + a bit extra
}
It's the same old story i'll bet
// CS2 pricing
// CS3 pricing
init CS4 pricing()
{
float us_price;
float uk_price;
float conversionrate;
//calculate UK price
uk_price = (us_price*conversionrate)*2.5 + a bit extra
}
It's the same old story i'll bet
...and I can't believe that you're so unaware of what's available in the Windows environment.
Windows XP 64-bit was released in April 2005 - Windows users who needed the memory space had it nearly 3½ years ago (and people running Windows server versions have had 64 GiB system support for years before that with PAE in Windows 2000).
You may notice that the Windows support was out before the laughable "support" for 64-bit in 10.4, and long before 10.5.
Yep, and the takeup on that was just astounding wasn't it? All those happy customers are now clamoring for Vista64-- all 300 thousand of them...
The Vista team blog post you were making use of earlier starts with this sentence: "There appears to be a shift taking place in the PC industry: the move from 32-bit to 64-bit PCs."
I assume that shift is happening because it already happened in 2005? I seem to remember we were running into pretty stiff memory limits in 2005, but I can't remember why we didn't upgrade our machines to 64bit XP...
Oh wait, now I remember! No 64 bit application! "Not stable enough yet", they told us... Surely we could have just run our 32bit applications on XP 64 though, why didn't we? Right... No drivers!
About 22 Million in March 2007 so lets be real kind and say Apple increased their userbase by 50% since then as this is the MacRumors Forum
. With Vista's sales numbers increasing (it increased by another 40M in only 3 months from Apr to Jul) and the trend showing takeup of x64 increasing (from 3% to 20% in the same time period) how long do you think it will take x64 Vista to overtake that number?