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Adobe to Unveil Creative Suite 4 on September 23rd
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sucks that osx version wont be 64bit. i was hoping to purchase adobe creative suite before i finish university next year in nov. i dont graduate prob till march-ish though. would i still be considered a student? 
hopefully cs5 is out by then =\
when do you guys think 64bit osx version would come out?
hopefully cs5 is out by then =\when do you guys think 64bit osx version would come out?
Very well put. My boss still runs on Homesite and then Coda on his iMac, and he's just itching for Panic to add in a few more 'must have features' from Homesite and he'll be a happy coder.
I mainly got tired of the load time, the RAM usage, the _notes folders (which do what?!?!) and yeah... it was just too much. I left Dreamweaver awhile ago and never ever look back.
The only reason I even care about this update is Flash, I have switched from Dreamweaver to Aptana for my Windows machine, and my current photoshop CS3 does pretty much what I want. God, how I hate their bloated hidden updater running in the background sucking up all the "free" bandwidth.
I agree. I've noticed very few changes from Photoshop 7 to CS3. About the only feature that's new and useful to me is Smart layers. From what I've seen of Stonehenge, the new Adobe UI... sucks.
Even if Adobe is forced to redo their apps for Cocoa 64, I don't think they'll be any more 'Mac like' than the current iterations. Adobe likes to keep things consistent across platforms and they're going to share as much code as they can. It's too bad, because PS needs a major overhaul.
If they do manage, however, to get the Macromedia apps integrated nicely into the Adobe apps (unlike CS3) I'll probably buy this version. Heck, I'll probably get it just for Actionscript 4.
I know I am bucking the consensus here, but I am really looking forward to CS4. CS3 was a great leap forward for Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (the programs I use the most) mainly in how all three programs play nice with each other now.
I expect good things with CS4, looking at what I have seen so far. The interface changes are not a big deal. From what they have said if you don't like the new interface you can revert to the old one.
If only they could update Freehand as well and put it in the suite I would be REALLY happy. Illustrator has a lot of great features, but Jeez... that masking mess has to go!
I expect good things with CS4, looking at what I have seen so far. The interface changes are not a big deal. From what they have said if you don't like the new interface you can revert to the old one.
If only they could update Freehand as well and put it in the suite I would be REALLY happy. Illustrator has a lot of great features, but Jeez... that masking mess has to go!
Well, all I can say is if Tosser thinks that Soundbooth is better than Logic Pro, then he certainly IS a tosser!
So I read that Snow Leopard is forcing Adobe to go 64bit in their future versions. - Have I missed something? Are 32bit apps not supported on Snow Leopard? (Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of out of the loop on SL)
--Erwin
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They are forcing them to rewrite the whole app (written in Carbon) in Cocoa if they want 64 bit version. Adobe expected 64-bit carbon but was screwed.
Google for 'apple drop carbon 64'.
European Prices?
Hopefully Adobe will have abandoned their rip-off pricing for European customers, where some of the packages cost more in £s than they did in $, despite the tumbling dollar.
Not holding my breath though ...
Hopefully Adobe will have abandoned their rip-off pricing for European customers, where some of the packages cost more in £s than they did in $, despite the tumbling dollar.
Not holding my breath though ...
I do have a question: will there be still a 3 - 3,50 GB barrier for RAM in Photoshop?
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080716133717914
Anyway i always felt, that the PC version of these Adobe apps were much more quicker, than the Mac version under OSX. At the time i had my PowerMac G5 1,8 GHz DP with 4 GB RAM, Photoshop CS1 and also InDesign CS1 were much faster (it really had the feeling) and responsible on a Pentium 4 3200 MHz with 3 GB RAM under Windows XP than on my Mac with Tiger 10.4.x.
So i think, that the whole Apples marketing about PPC vs. Intel MHz myth was just a f*cking lie... anyway, now i am happy quite happy with Windows XP 64-bit.
And also, the 64-bit Windows user base is constantly growing. Thats why the Windows packages will be the first, that will get the 64-bit applications.
Any news about a Linux verison of Adobe Creative Suite package?
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080716133717914
Anyway i always felt, that the PC version of these Adobe apps were much more quicker, than the Mac version under OSX. At the time i had my PowerMac G5 1,8 GHz DP with 4 GB RAM, Photoshop CS1 and also InDesign CS1 were much faster (it really had the feeling) and responsible on a Pentium 4 3200 MHz with 3 GB RAM under Windows XP than on my Mac with Tiger 10.4.x.
So i think, that the whole Apples marketing about PPC vs. Intel MHz myth was just a f*cking lie... anyway, now i am happy quite happy with Windows XP 64-bit.
And also, the 64-bit Windows user base is constantly growing. Thats why the Windows packages will be the first, that will get the 64-bit applications.
Any news about a Linux verison of Adobe Creative Suite package?
not a majority, it will be 100%
100% of 64-bit CS4 Adobe users will be on Windows when CS4 is released.
100% of 64-bit CS4 Adobe users will be on Windows when CS4 is released.
Have you got any idea how difficult it is to rewrite an entire suit of applications using a new programming language and APIs? We're talking millions of lines here. Apple is clearly trying to give Adobe (and other Carbon developers) a nudge to Cocoa by neglecting 64-bit support in Carbon, but rewriting CS4 isn't something Adobe can do overnight - it'll take time.
Absolutely.
I had to think long and hard before buying Illustrator CS3 as it was so expensive, and the unjustifiable rip-off UK price rubbed salt into the wound.
That said, I did buy it, and it does rock. Like a well paced game, I'm learning how to use it step-by-step, and most things I want to do, it can do - might expect stronger 3D support though - 3D cubes, anyone?
Overall, I'm satisfied with the product, though aggrieved at the US vs. UK pricing.
btw, on the back of that I just bought Web Design Standard CS3, which I'm just getting started with.
I'm not concerned with CS4 coming out, because I'm benefiting from the wealth of CS3 tutorials already out there on the web - another benefit of buying a big brand product like Illustrator.
Apple has been giving Adobe the "nudge" since OS X debuted. APPLE WROTE CARBON FOR ADOBE!!! (and MS and Macromedia, etc). Who's the last one to come to the party on OS X?? Adobe! I will never shed a tear for Adobe having to write code. Writing software is what Adobe does. That is their job. Carbon NEVER forced you to rewrite your entire app anyway. Only a small portion. They should have taken advantage and just done it. Adobe should have jumped on the train long ago. They decided not to and are paying the price now - uh, Mac users are paying the price now. Adobe is a dinosaur. I see most of their apps being supplanted in the next 5 years anyway whether it be by Apple or some other Mac developer.
Please explain the benefits of Cocoa to CS5 users
Seriously, please tell me how and why CS5 will be a better experience for the user because of Cocoa.
Since Photoshop and other Adobe apps are often run full screen, and use their own UI metaphors, how will Cocoa enrich the experience?
Apple has been forcing developers to spend enormous amounts of money just to stay in the same place (OS9 -> OSX migration, PPC -> x86 migration, now the x86 to x64 migration,...), which not only adds bugs but makes it more difficult to add features.
Microsoft works hard to help developers, but Apple seems to work against them.
Seriously, please tell me how and why CS5 will be a better experience for the user because of Cocoa.
Since Photoshop and other Adobe apps are often run full screen, and use their own UI metaphors, how will Cocoa enrich the experience?
Apple has been forcing developers to spend enormous amounts of money just to stay in the same place (OS9 -> OSX migration, PPC -> x86 migration, now the x86 to x64 migration,...), which not only adds bugs but makes it more difficult to add features.
Microsoft works hard to help developers, but Apple seems to work against them.
My company upgrades to whatever "new" version of programs are out there - design dept, financial, etc, all the time. Hell, even the secretary managed to get the company to spring for the last version of iTunes because we use it to pipe music through the place. (which reminds me, I need to secretly replace all the tracks in the company playlist with Slayer & W.A.S.P. sometime).
However, although it's cool we try to stay up-to-date with new software, I will have to say I was slightly....underwhelmed when CS3 made it to our desktops. I certainly didn't see anything that I myself personally thought warranted another bucketload of cash going into Adobes coffers.
Maybe this latest CS4 will justify the price, and correct a few issues that others here have mentioned about the previous release.
I'll be looking forward to trying it out - but I'm not expecting anything truly Earth-shattering. Prove me wrong, Adobe!
However, although it's cool we try to stay up-to-date with new software, I will have to say I was slightly....underwhelmed when CS3 made it to our desktops. I certainly didn't see anything that I myself personally thought warranted another bucketload of cash going into Adobes coffers.
Maybe this latest CS4 will justify the price, and correct a few issues that others here have mentioned about the previous release.
I'll be looking forward to trying it out - but I'm not expecting anything truly Earth-shattering. Prove me wrong, Adobe!
As a graphic design major I'm a little upset by this announcement. On top of many other fees and expenses I will have to upgrade yet again... Id like to see a few year break in which they look at upcoming technology and incorporate optimization and streamlining between different programs. As a person who primarily works in print based design, there's a gap in the way InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator all integrate. Thats what I want to pay for.
Do you even know what you're talking about?
Did you not read the reasoning behind it?
I'm sorry but your statement is as ignorant as saying that a truck is per definition better than a sportscar, or that photoshop is per definition better than lightroom/aperture.
I'm in broadcast and speed matters. Logic Pro is fine, but for my line of work Logic Pro is much more cumbersome and thus slower than Soundbooth, and with the advent of multitrack in SB CS4 it's even quicker from the moment I come home with my recordings to the moment I have my finished product.
Further, I get to use the same app on both the PC at work and my own computer. Oh, and even if people dislike Adobe, it seems that even Soundbooth CS4 Beta have less bugs than Apple's "pro" software. I'm tired of using products that are ignored by the company itself.
I'm tired of Apple's dwindling QC, so I'm looking for a way out, and this is the perfect route.
why does it need an update so quicky is it to justify the ludicrous pricing for software which for all intents and purposes (professional use) hasn't added much since like forever man.
Seriously what else is there to do with illustrator photoshop and indesign?
Seriously what else is there to do with illustrator photoshop and indesign?
Why do you need to upgrade? I'm still running illustrator 10 and make a good living as a designer, and having the latest software won't make a design/er "better".
Wikipedia has the date as April, 2007. Looking at its history it appears Photoshop has an 18-24 month release cycle so an October release won't be out of the ordinary.jesus they just came out with CS3