If you need to have the option to rotate the canvas in PS and the new gradient tool, multiple workspace, tabbed interface (in almost all CS apps), than i say go for the update.
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If you need to have the option to rotate the canvas in PS and the new gradient tool, multiple workspace, tabbed interface (in almost all CS apps), than i say go for the update.
What's the matter? You don't like the magnificent tutorials on how to use the pen and selection tools?
It's not the silly tutorials... it's the amazing code-bloat they seem to undergo with each rev.
These products together...
Adobe Bridge
Adobe Creative Suite 2
Adobe Extension Manager
Adobe Illustrator CS2
Adobe Photoshop CS2
Adobe Stock Photos
Macromedia Dreamweaver MX
Macromedia Extension Manager
Macromedia Flash MX
...take up 735.7 MB.
These products...
Adobe Bridge CS3
Adobe Device Central CS3
Adobe Dreamweaver CS3
Adobe Fireworks CS3
Adobe Flash CS3
Adobe Flash CS3 Video Encoder
Adobe Illustrator CS3
Adobe Photoshop CS3
Adobe Stock Photos CS3
...take up 3.14 GB.
OK, so those aren't line-by-line comparable (and come to think of it, that DW might be one rev behind), but they're pretty close. Is there really an extra 2.4 GB of value in CS3 over CS2? Photoshop and Illustrator each grew by more than threefold!
There probably will be a student edition available. If you're not a student, just pay one £20 to buy it for you (hey, I'd do it).
NO PPC support.
I guess I'll have to wait till I upgrade to a Mac Pro.
Until then I'm sticking with CS2/Tiger.
Also as a side note, didn't I hear that Adobe was going away from the
CS naming convention?
I guess I'll have to wait till I upgrade to a Mac Pro.
Until then I'm sticking with CS2/Tiger.
Also as a side note, didn't I hear that Adobe was going away from the
CS naming convention?
It's not just the drive space... it's what the bloat implies. It seems to mean that they're just using code objects, which is an easy but inefficient way to code. Inefficient code results in slow, buggy, strange-behaving, randomly-limited applications.
Also, I tend to prefer to use a laptop (I'm not doing hardcore pixel crunching... usually just web stuff). On a laptop, hard drive space comes at a premium. And I'd prefer to have as much of that space as possible for media (and scratch).
Not to mention their incredibly incompetent project management in keeping Carbon as the basis for CS4. Remember, Adobe:
- You owe your existence to Apple and the desktop publishing revolution;
- The writing's been on the wall for Carbon SINCE 2001 - So no, your excuse that a Cocoa rewrite was suddenly "pushed" by Apple does NOT suffice;
- 64-bit support on Mac OS X is miles ahead of Windows 64; yet you give us a has-been product again, for criminal upgrade prices.
Go figure...
Keep telling yourself that - while we're running 64-bit Photoshop and Apples aren't.
By the way, did you know that Windows 32 and Windows 64 have basically the same API sets, whereas Apple 10.5 64-bit is a subset of 32-bit Apple 10.5 with a major subsystem missing? Did you know that Adobe Photoshop depends upon that missing subsystem, otherwise CS4 would have been 64-bit on Apple?
Does "miles ahead" cover partial functionality?
I would consider that to be a step backwards. (Although I suppose that even so it looks like progress -- since Apple 10.4 had no support for 64-bit on Intel, and only rudimentary support for certain classes of 64-bit server applications on some of the PowerPC models.)
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Actually, as it were, Apple doesn't read its own "writing on the wall" since most of Apple's pro applications such as Final Cut and Logic are still carbon. So apparently even if Apple hasn't "jumped" yet, Adobe is suddenly obligated? Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. I'll believe Apple will dump carbon when they ship a Cocoa versions of their Studio applications. You're seriously underestimating the amount of effort that goes into this.
Do you already have the copy of CS3? If you purchase CS3.3 student edition from today onwards you will get a free upgrade of CS4 when it ships. I called Adobe at (800) 833-6687 and verified this.
Well, I found out what happened to Ultra...
Here's my correspondence with the Ultra product manager at Adobe:
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Hi there! Just curious about where Ultra went in the new production suite? I was hoping for a Mac version and now I can't find it at all...
From the Ultra Product Manager:
In CS4, Ultra is no longer included in Production Premium. In order to make the Ultra technology available to a broader set of customers, were investigating ways of integrating the Ultra keyer and virtual set technology into other Adobe applications for future releases.
Customers can continue to use Ultra CS3 by making sure that at least one other CS3 Production Premium application (such as Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 or Adobe After Effects CS3) installed on their computer. CS3 and CS4 versions of Adobe software can safely coexist on the same computer.
Sorry we couldn't be more helpful with your inquiry. Thanks for taking
the time to write, and for using Serious Magic...er, Adobe products!
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Well dang...
Here's my correspondence with the Ultra product manager at Adobe:
========================
Hi there! Just curious about where Ultra went in the new production suite? I was hoping for a Mac version and now I can't find it at all...
From the Ultra Product Manager:
In CS4, Ultra is no longer included in Production Premium. In order to make the Ultra technology available to a broader set of customers, were investigating ways of integrating the Ultra keyer and virtual set technology into other Adobe applications for future releases.
Customers can continue to use Ultra CS3 by making sure that at least one other CS3 Production Premium application (such as Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 or Adobe After Effects CS3) installed on their computer. CS3 and CS4 versions of Adobe software can safely coexist on the same computer.
Sorry we couldn't be more helpful with your inquiry. Thanks for taking
the time to write, and for using Serious Magic...er, Adobe products!
========================
Well dang...
Yes, I've had it for some time, so I'd like to confirm what upgrade options I have.
I called Adobe last year to confirm that I could upgrade CD2 EDU to CS3 retail, because I couldn't find any reference elsewhere at the time (including MR). The Adobe rep readily admitted they allowed this, but were making no effort to educate the customer. Today, I'm curious if my Macromedia Studio 8 EDU enjoys the same current time limited upgrade path as Studio 8 retail.
FWIW, viewing the my registered licenses on my Adobe account, there is no noticeable distinction between what is retail and what is educational.
Unfortunately the only route you have Q is to get the full version of the software to be eligible for the updates, or buy another EDU version at almost half price.
The serials are what tell Adobe if it's EDU or not, so buying the full version upgrade and installing it will be an epic fail. This is how Apple's EDU pricing works as well.
That is sad, especially given that it's a British company.
For me the only noted improvement is Premier CS4. I haven't looked into the rest. But that app is making me want to dual platform my production process, and I can pickup the Production suite for $1700 while Apple works on FCStudio 3.
We Brits are responsible for a lot of the world's mediocrity, but not Adobe!
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WOW! High upgrade costs...
After already paying for the CS3.3 upgrade, I have to cough up $600.00 for the CS4 upgrade?
I'm sticking with CS3.3 (and feeling foolish for upgrading that far)
And, since when is Adobe a 'British company'?
They've been 'American' (whatever that means anymore) as far as I know... Wasn't the roots of Adobe cast in Aldus? Wasn't Aldus a 'valley' company?
With the high costs of the upgrade and buying retail, it seems that getting screwed is not an option with them...
Bottom line: Is it worth it? Are there alternatives? No and Yes.
You would think that a corporation like Adobe would realize that skyhigh costs for their products aren't going to fly, especially in this wonderful economy.
After already paying for the CS3.3 upgrade, I have to cough up $600.00 for the CS4 upgrade?
I'm sticking with CS3.3 (and feeling foolish for upgrading that far)
And, since when is Adobe a 'British company'?
They've been 'American' (whatever that means anymore) as far as I know... Wasn't the roots of Adobe cast in Aldus? Wasn't Aldus a 'valley' company?
With the high costs of the upgrade and buying retail, it seems that getting screwed is not an option with them...
Bottom line: Is it worth it? Are there alternatives? No and Yes.
You would think that a corporation like Adobe would realize that skyhigh costs for their products aren't going to fly, especially in this wonderful economy.
History of A-
Adobe was started in 1982 by two former Xerox PARC scientists. Aldus didn't show up on the scene until 1985 and was based in Seattle. So, only Adobe is the Silicon Valley company between those two companies.
Adobe was started in 1982 by two former Xerox PARC scientists. Aldus didn't show up on the scene until 1985 and was based in Seattle. So, only Adobe is the Silicon Valley company between those two companies.
After already paying for the CS3.3 upgrade, I have to cough up $600.00 for the CS4 upgrade?
With the high costs of the upgrade and buying retail, it seems that getting screwed is not an option with them...
Bottom line: Is it worth it? Are there alternatives? No and Yes.
You would think that a corporation like Adobe would realize that skyhigh costs for their products aren't going to fly, especially in this wonderful economy.
Amen...Goddess....I agree on that upgrade prices should not be as high as is currently the case.
But are there REALLY alternatives out there? And please nobody mention Corel Draw cause I'll get sepsis......
After already paying for the CS3.3 upgrade, I have to cough up $600.00 for the CS4 upgrade?
Now that's weird. I checked the US online store on announcement day (oh, was that only yesterday
), and saw a distinct upgrade path for CS3.3 Design Premium for ~$450. $599 for CS3.0. I go back after reading your post, and it's not there.Whats up with that?
Forcing! How no-one came to my door with a gun demanding I buy PS or the dog gets killed.
Cost is always a factor in business and many companies run software that is several years old. My girlfriends company is considering moving to Vista in 2010and they currently use Office 2003.
Well Aperture was an attempt at that and it was $500 to start with and didn't even work properly for quite a while. Price was rejigged a few times to reflect its true worth. LR is far more expensive and yet still outsells Aperture on Mac by a considerable margin.
All this time I thought it was a British company....
Glad to know the truth. No wonder there is a fleecing going on across the pond.
Hmmm...
I've got Web Premium. Maybe they saw their 401k statements like I saw mine and figured that the extra money wouldn't hurt (them).
And just think, if mine was privatized I'd have even less money!
I give up figuring this stuff out... There was a time when a computer reseller could make some money on selling hardware and software. Now, if you make enough to cover shipping and delivery you are doing great. Looks like the only people that make a living at being a 'middleman' are the politicians... Sorry, just venting... I haven't checked our cost through distribution. Probably $589.99!
Now that's weird. I checked the US online store on announcement day (oh, was that only yesterday
Whats up with that?
I've got Web Premium. Maybe they saw their 401k statements like I saw mine and figured that the extra money wouldn't hurt (them).
And just think, if mine was privatized I'd have even less money!
I give up figuring this stuff out... There was a time when a computer reseller could make some money on selling hardware and software. Now, if you make enough to cover shipping and delivery you are doing great.
Looks like the only people that make a living at being a 'middleman' are the politicians... Sorry, just venting... I haven't checked our cost through distribution. Probably $589.99!