Adobe Warns Customers of Potential Legal Action for Using Older Versions of Creative Cloud Apps

Journojulz said:
Affinity or Pixelmator? Pros and cons please.

Was getting ready to look at replacements for my 32-bit CS6 anyway.

But replacing Indesign at work will be more of a bind.

Any alternatives that will edit .indd?
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To me AP and Pixelmator are apples and oranges. If you subscribe to the two best FB pages about using Photo and Designer, I’ll think you’ll see Photo is much more robust. Has a steep learning curve, especially on iPad, but there are countless online videos and YouTube channels devoted to learning/using it. To me Pixelmator is for very basic adjustments, which is fine if that’s what’s needed.

AP is a free 30 day full demo. Download it and play around. Look at some videos. Look at all the brush and filter packs Serif offers.

As to .indd files I’m not sure. Photo opens native PS files, maybe the upcoming Serif Affinity Publisher will open native .indd files. There’s also a beta of that available. Download it and see. The beta seems somewhat InDesignish but I don’t have any .indd files to test it with.
 
Brewsta said:
You do realize you have probably never “owned” software, right? You purchase and own a license to use software; a license that is almost always revocable by the company that sold it to you.

Subscription licensing doesn’t change the legal authority of the company to revoke the license or not.
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You do realize that's morally wrong, right? We need better consumer protection laws and an end to "software patents" which are just horse crap legal maneuvers to sue smaller companies out of business for a patent on "breathing air". But with the same yahoos running things from on high, it's the master control program running things from on high from now on.

Sometimes TRUE justice means saying FRACK the system. Not pirating things is one thing. Telling me what I can run and how long I can run it on my computer is reprehensible, which is why I'm concerned about the FORCED Notarization in the newer MacOS versions to come. Look at the Warner Brothers 4K library thing. If you own a 4K disc, you're fine. If you trust the streaming servers, you could lose a title at any time when you most want/need to view it. Leaving control to a form of "Big Brother" is never a good idea, which is precisely WHY all these large companies LOVE THE IDEA of "Cloud Computing" as it offers them an unprecedented level of control and if abused, the capability to steal your data and ideas (word processor in the cloud? Oops, there goes your patent application. Odd how Froogle got there first....)

Paranoid, conspiracy theories? Just look at the number of frivolous software patent lawsuits over the past decade and tell me again it's just paranoia. The government offices awarding these patents have NO CLUE what they're doing nor do they understand there's often only one way of doing things and that giving a patent over "communication through the air from a mobile device" is a STUPID idea.
 
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It's 2019, seven years since CC was released. InDesign still can't import and export compliant HTML and still can't use external CSS compatible style sheets. This is what has been needed as a feature the whole time and there's been no progress on it despite vastly increased revenues and therefor resources to implement standardised text content import and export.

Once anything goes into InDesign it's in a silo.

Surely everyone can agree that HTML is the future of publishing? It's bonkers that it's still not been implemented properly in what's without doubt the current print publishing industry standard.
 
Rahtid said:
It's 2019, seven years since CC was released. InDesign still can't import and export compliant HTML and still can't use external CSS compatible style sheets. This is what has been needed as a feature the whole time and there's been no progress on it despite vastly increased revenues and therefor resources to implement standardised text content import and export.

Once anything goes into InDesign it's in a silo.

Surely everyone can agree that HTML is the future of publishing? It's bonkers that it's still not been implemented properly in what's without doubt the current print publishing industry standard.
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I would say SGML is the way to do publishing. Or LaTeX.
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Rahtid said:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/14/intel_hyper_threading_mitigations/

Intel Hyperthreading is a security risk according to this news.
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A system can do multithreading and not "HyperThreading".
 
richpjr said:
Nothing at all, aside from violating the license agreement.
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Oh then I wouldn’t worry about that. If I purchase a perpetual license, and the company later revokes the license without a refund, then I’d consider the license agreement broken on their end.
 
subjonas said:
Oh then I wouldn’t worry about that. If I purchase a perpetual license, and the company later revokes the license without a refund, then I’d consider the license agreement broken on their end.
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Very few people actually read any type of licensing agreement, but there is a reason why they are there and why companies spend so much money having lawyers craft them. You can consider it broken, but that likely isn't what you agreed to when you bought it.
 
richpjr said:
Very few people actually read any type of licensing agreement, but there is a reason why they are there and why companies spend so much money having lawyers craft them. You can consider it broken, but that likely isn't what you agreed to when you bought it.
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Yeah I should have added to my last post “—whether I have technical legal backing or not.” In a situation like that, I would not care.
 
Journojulz said:
Affinity or Pixelmator? Pros and cons please.

Was getting ready to look at replacements for my 32-bit CS6 anyway.

But replacing Indesign at work will be more of a bind.

Any alternatives that will edit .indd?
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I bought both Affinity and Pixelmator. I prefer using Affinity. It has a more familiar/traditional interface whereas I feel like Pixelmator went with a more Apple/simplistic approach to their layout. Affinity is really close to Photoshop, but just different enough that some tasks can be maddening because you know that it can be done, and how to do it in Photoshop.

For InDesign, I have been pretty happy with Affinity's beta product Affinity Publisher. It's available for free while in beta. I used it to publish a short book, and for a handful of small projects. I don't think it will open INDD files though.
 
Exactly why I never upgraded to the subscription model.
I have an old version of MacOS on a disk I keep backed up with the creative apps.
They and everyone else can keep their subscription models.

I work in chip development and I have dealt with subscription models of commercial software for decades.
In the subscription model, if you stop paying, you stop getting access to your data.
I prefer not to be a data hostage.
 
subjonas said:
Yeah I should have added to my last post “—whether I have technical legal backing or not.” In a situation like that, I would not care.
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I'm just as guilty as anyone of not reading the license agreements. But what are the chances of a company actually taking legal action against an expired license?
 
cube said:
Has anybody tried to implement that?
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Is that possible? HTML for sure can run in the browser natively, I've not seen LaTex do the same and LaTex seems to not separate form from content which is what is great about HTML and CSS.

Admittedly I don't know much about LaTex other than it looks like a pain to use compared to other publishing solutions.
 
Rahtid said:
Is that possible? HTML for sure can run in the browser natively, I've not seen LaTex do the same and LaTex seems to not separate form from content which is what is great about HTML and CSS.

Admittedly I don't know much about LaTex other than it looks like a pain to use compared to other publishing solutions.
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You could always re-implement LaTeX in JavaScript, but you can output to PDF anyway.
 
techwhiz said:
Exactly why I never upgraded to the subscription model.
I have an old version of MacOS on a disk I keep backed up with the creative apps.
They and everyone else can keep their subscription models.

I work in chip development and I have dealt with subscription models of commercial software for decades.
In the subscription model, if you stop paying, you stop getting access to your data.
I prefer not to be a data hostage.
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A massive advantage of Windows, IMO, (at least presently) is the ability to run even very old software without much trouble.
 
richpjr said:
I'm just as guilty as anyone of not reading the license agreements. But what are the chances of a company actually taking legal action against an expired license?
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cube said:
You could always re-implement LaTeX in JavaScript, but you can output to PDF anyway.
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From HTML or LaTex for sure you can output to PDF. LaTex requires output to HTML and then PDF to do multiple devices and uses, unless I'm mistaken?
 
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