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Well I was looking for a reason to stop spending 60 bucks a month on something I use for freelance work ... Now i have it. I can freelance using LumaFusion or FCPX at this point moving forward.
 
So glad I made the decision to quit photography as a hobby entirely at the end of 2017, choosing instead to spend my time/money on other pursuits. Today I’m happy using my XS Max and Google Photos for “good enough” snapshots, while re-allocating money on travel and athletic-related activities instead. What kicked off this change? Early retirement forced me to reconsider everything and Adobe’s subscription model (along with several others) were a red-flag. Would I have done similar had their software remained under an ownership model? Can’t say. However, my only 3 remaining subscriptions are Netflix, Spotify and Amazon Prime.
 
I was talking about moving Affinity projects to Illustrator.
there is the option to export as Ai or SVG which can be opened in Ai, not sure how well those two options work, though.
I was talking about moving Affinity projects to Illustrator.
you can’t export as an Ai file you would have to do a work around with an SVG file.
 
I should mention, I'm not a *huge* movie buff, so my collection is very small. Mostly just old favorites. I definitely wouldn't want a wall of Blu-rays! For movies, music, and software, I try to support the artist/creator as much as I can, but I will try to always have some sort of physical or perpetual item that cannot be revoked without notice.

I hear ya. One of the side benefits of the digital age is that concerts are becoming popular again. I think thats great for fans & directly benefits the artist as well. Record companies had a notorious history of shafting musicians on their cut of album sales. So in a way, it’s good for the artists that the focus has shifted to concerts again.
 
there is the option to export as Ai or SVG which can be opened in Ai, not sure how well those two options work, though.

you can’t export as an Ai file you would have to do a work around with an SVG file.
So until there is a way to move back and forth seamlessly, I would not consider it a viable alternative.
 
I care with Adobe like I care with Corel Draw. Some time ago I had to uninstall Adobe CC apps from my mother's laptop. I had to connect the internet, update Creative Cloud after entering the uninstall utility, recover her password, log in and finally I could uninstall Adobe CC apps and the Creative Cloud app.
 
You do realize you have probably never “owned” software, right? You purchase and own a license to use software; a license that is almost always revocable by the company that sold it to you.

Subscription licensing doesn’t change the legal authority of the company to revoke the license or not.
How is a company going to enforce that license though with software that doesn't dial home and was sold on physical media? If they can't enforce it, then I think my ownership is real enough, and I have bought plenty of software that qualifies.
 
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This is exactly the reason why I prefer perpetual model. I pay for the version i want to use forever. I still have my legally owned CS6 suite. I forked over a lot of money to use it, it works fine for my needs. So eff Adobe.
 
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Yes, I thought that was understood in the context of my response to the quote.

C1 does a good job importing Lightroom catalogs but it also depends upon how your LR catalog is setup. I wouldn’t expect a great deal of compatibility between software packages for their cataloging system. But C1 did fine as I was using LR in such a manner that it was designed to be movable at a later time.
It would seem to make more sense to stick to Lightroom Classic CC + Photoshop CC for $10 per month than buying Capture One for $300.
 
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It’s a shame. Adobe Lightroom was THE organization and light editing program for professional photographers. But lately it seems to get buggier and buggier while at the same time their subscription plan is stupid. If you cancel your subscription say half way through a year of subscription they charge you 50% I think of what you would have to pay for the rest of the year. Also they will just renew your subscription without any notice when it is that time. If you want to cancel and not pay a cancellation fee then you have to talk to them right before your subscription is about to be renewed. I'm moving away from Lightroom. I have been trying out ACDSee and It seems to be so much faster and less buggy than Lightroom.

Yeah I just re-subbed for the photography plan @ $10/mo since photography is getting to be a lot more serious of an endeavor for me. But UGH Adobe Lightroom CC on the ipad (2018 12” pro updated ios/lr cc) is a mess. In the space of 5 mins it crashed to home screen like 5 times. I wasn’t culling or anything, just marking/flagging about 100 images shot during Mother’s Day get togethers. For a professional app that wants professional photographers paying for massive cloud storage amounts, crashing in 100ish image catalogs is laughable.

Fast Raw Viewer ($20) and Luminar 3 ($80) are the mainstays for my workstation in the office, recently. Even with a last gen i7, 32GB of ram and a 1070 Ti GPU lightroom cc classic takes a year and a half to render previews (b/c i can’t stand that 1 sec delay it takes to render while tabbing through the catalog)

and catalogs, ugh. Being able to just cull and edit from on the memory card then shove into my backup drive folders is making me think of just removing adobe altogether. And using the excellent Darkroom/Affinity Photo on ios.

Adobe is becoming expensive sluggish bloatware. And they can eat me, I’m going to keep CS6 for when I need it, litigation be damned. lol.
 
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Yeah, great upgrade advertisement, "Upgrade or we'll prosecute you!" Like I'm going to ever do business with Adobe again. It's over dudes.
 
And they can eat me, I’m going to keep CS6 for when I need it, litigation be damned. lol.
Adobe warned subscription users, not retail ones.
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Yeah, great upgrade advertisement, "Upgrade or we'll prosecute you!" Like I'm going to ever do business with Adobe again. It's over dudes.
Adobe did not say they would sue you themselves.
 
It's funny how a couple years ago Apple and Adobe were the two companies that you'd built your creative business around. Now they just shoved their fingers up everyones butt
 
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This is what happens when companies get too large and powerful. They dictate what they want on you and you can't do anything about it because you are out of options.

Keep competition alive by buying from alternatives when possible.
 
This is outrageous. Litigation there may be or not, this is a part of dirty play at hand. Just think of it, penetrating the user's computer, seizing control of his apps - this smells bunch of legal counter-actions.

A class action suit against Adobe is almost inevitable from this. The lawyers are going to have a field day.
 
Da vinci Resolve or Avid? Resolve 16 has some nice new features, even the free version is very usable.
Avid costs more than CS6, as I expected. But Resolve looks well priced if video is not your main thing.
 
I'm still using CS4. From my cold hands...

(I feel a chill)

I think that’s OK, this is about the CC apps. If not they should have notified us users of the old CS versions.
This is partly a scare tactic to get users to update/upgrade to. Ever more expensive licenses.
I’ll never touch Adobe again after OS 10.15 is released and it breaks 32 bit apps.
As it is I’ve been using Affinity Photo/Designer and I like them, even with the learning curve.
Looking forward to their page layout app.
 
Whoa now I'm worried. When I try to launch Photoshop, it gives me 2 version options, 19 and 20. I'm scared to un-install one of them because it might un-install both, so ... I end up never using photoshop anyway. I'm pretty hooked in to Lightroom, tho, so I guess I'll just keep paying the adobe tax
 
You can revert back to the legacy scale behavior. I did this immediately, because there was no way I was retraining 25 years worth of muscle memory, going back to days of using PageMaker in high school.

https://photoshoptrainingchannel.com/photoshop-proportional-scale-transform/


Ha ha, Pagemaker... There's a blast from the past.

Understood re the legacy behaviour, it wasn't so much the behaviour, more how buggy it seemed to be even when grappling with the new way it worked. All sorts of little issues. It all felt really bodged. I just gave it up as a bad job and switched back to 2015. I'll probably have another go soon and download the latest one. Perhaps it's a smoother experience now.

I have noticed a few issues in InDesign as well too - the align palette seems somewhat broken but that's harder to just switch back from...


We all knew Adobe would get fat and complacent with the subscription model and we weren't wrong...
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This is partly a scare tactic to get users to update/upgrade to. Ever more expensive licenses.
I tend to agree, when I queried it all with their support dept there suddenly didn't seem to be an issue with running any previous versions - they even offered me a download link to a previous one...
 
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