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Ads in the iTunes and Podcasts?

lukevenk said:
if iTunes is going to hijack my show, place ads in it and profit from all of the hard work that I put into it, without my consent. Then I'll be ticked.
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Welcome! (I just got into LOST via NetFlix as it happens.)

Do you see anything in the article to suggest that will happen?
 
neocell said:
Crap that is funny 😀
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Haha, yeah. I don't generally like Futurama, but that was damn funny. 😀

And we all knew ads for podcasts were inevitable, right? There's no such thing as a free lunch in our money hungry world.
 
No No No No No No No No!!!!!!

Who benefits from this? The user? Podcasts should always be free.
Isn't Apple making money hand over fist now?
They need to collect money for advertising in these spots?

I DON"T LIKE THIS AT ALL. YOU WON"T CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE!
THIS WILL JUST BE A STEPPING STONE TO SOMETHING WORSE!
MARK MY WORDS....... 😡

<rant over> deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep breathes.......
 
Abstract said:
And we all knew ads for podcasts were inevitable, right? There's no such thing as a free lunch in our money hungry world.
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Ads for podcasts have been here for awhile. I have no objection to ads in podcasts, it just needs to be done by the podcaster with the podcaster receiving the revenue. From this article, it's hard to tell how this will work, I'll feel better about it once I know apple isn't going to be inserting ads into podcasts.
 
Ads would be annoying, but you could always move another window over that corner of the iTunes window. Perhaps a little freeware app could hide them too. It would be some consolation if Apple makes money by doing this and then spends it on R&D or keeping prices in line, both of which benefit me as a Mac user.
 
Podcasts OK But I'm worried about Video content

I have no problem with a Podcaster trying to create a bit of revenue in the form of static artwork in the lower left corner. What worries me more is the Major networks bundling Ads with their programming that I am not allowed to skip.

I guess it's a tried and true practice. We go to the movies and see ads we are forced to watch promos on many DVDs.

Still, It's annoying and the wrong direction.
 
I am generally okay with the ad thing - If I am listening to an ESPN podcast I don't mind an ESPN ad.

If I am listening to Jack's Lost podcast and HE decides he wants to share an ad with me: also okay.

But the only problem I have with it - You let little ads in - where/when will it stop? if ever?
 
I am a huge Apple fan, but the cost of podcasting is all on the podcaster not on itunes or apple. All the downloading comes from the podcasters personal sever not itunes. So essentially its practically free for itunes to have a page with links to podcasters rss feeds.

This artical is a little ambigiuos (sp*), so this may not be the case, but if apple is going to make a profit without giving the podcaster the choice is wrong.

Jay: The Lost Podcast with Jay and Jack
 
Sonofhaig said:
Who benefits from this? The user? Podcasts should always be free.
Isn't Apple making money hand over fist now?
They need to collect money for advertising in these spots?
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It sounds to me like ads by the podcast creators--and embedded in podcasts--not by Apple at all.

What in the article makes you assume it is Apple who would be making money from these ads? It's not impossible, but what makes you think it's the case?

For that matter, the whole store IS an ad for Apple stuff. It's a store. Would adding visual Apple ads to audio podcasts really help Apple that much? I don't really see why Apple would try to put ads in podcasts, but I DO see why podcast creators would--and that's all I see in the article.
 
nagromme said:
It sounds to me like ads by the podcast creators--and embedded in podcasts--not by Apple at all.

What in the article makes you assume it is Apple who would be making money from these ads? It's not impossible, but what makes you think it's the case?

For that matter, the whole store IS an ad for Apple stuff. It's a store. Would adding visual Apple ads to audio podcasts really help Apple that much? I don't really see why Apple would try to put ads in podcasts, but I DO see why podcast creators would--and that's all I see in the article.
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We already can put ads in with pictures in the left hand corner and stuff, thats why I am a bit worried about this


Jay: The Lost Podcast with Jay and Jack
 
It's weird seeing so many posts about something that's not going to happen. Some podcasts use the album art feature to just show their logo, so it would be wise to advertise and help pay some of those high-bandwidth charges. I don't see the difference between showing an ad in that spot versus showing a regular image -- it doesn't bother me one bit, and it shouldn't bother everyone else either.

Fishes,
narco.
 
lukevenk said:
We already can put ads in with pictures in the left hand corner and stuff, thats why I am a bit worried about this


Jay: The Lost Podcast with Jay and Jack
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Hey there, Jay. Huge lost fan but haven't checked out your podcast yet because I'm paranoid about getting spoiled. Heck, I don't even watch the promos for the next weeks episode. How much spoilers/hard core speculation do you guys get into?
 
milo said:
Hey there, Jay. Huge lost fan but haven't checked out your podcast yet because I'm paranoid about getting spoiled. Heck, I don't even watch the promos for the next weeks episode. How much spoilers/hard core speculation do you guys get into?
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we discuss everything from theroies, recap episodes, and spoilers. But the spoilers are kept in there own section so you can fastforward through them, or if you subscribe to the Chapter Enabled one you can skip to the next chapter 🙂


And as long as the power to place ads is in the podcasters hands then thats fine, just as long as it is in the podcasters control😀


Jay: The Lost Podcast with Jay AND Jack
 
What I'm more worried about is the talk of ads going to your iPod....which I doubt would happen but some people have mentioned it....


...pure B.S. or is there some truth to this?
 
One thing everybody seems to forget: Apple does not author most of the podcasts. With the exception of a small number of podcasts (like the iTunes New Music Tuesday one), they are authored by independent third parties. The iTMS simply acts as a large search engine. When you subscribe, the files are downloaded from third-party web sites.

If one of those third parties wants to insert an ad, nobody is going to stop them. And nobody should. If you don't like it, complain to the author or unsubscribe.

If you think Apple is going to download a third-party podcast, edit it to insert their own ads, and then feed the modified version to customers, think again. Such a process would cost a fortune (far more than the ad revenue could ever produce), it would create a huge disgruntled user-base, would be illegal (violation of copyright) and it wouldn't work (because you could still download the original files from the original source.)

So let's drop all the paranoid conspiracy theories already, OK?
 
If i cared about Podcasts whatsoever I might be upset by this..

But, I don't really download podcasts.

But, this could be a slippery slope and lead to more ads in other areas, and that would be the worst thing ever...

What about an "iTunes Pro" concept, like quicktime.

If you want more pro features, like wave editors, and more encoding options, and no ad's. Pay Apple $ Is that a really far fetched idea?
 
shamino said:
One thing everybody seems to forget: Apple does not author most of the podcasts. With the exception of a small number of podcasts (like the iTunes New Music Tuesday one), they are authored by independent third parties. The iTMS simply acts as a large search engine. When you subscribe, the files are downloaded from third-party web sites.

If one of those third parties wants to insert an ad, nobody is going to stop them. And nobody should. If you don't like it, complain to the author or unsubscribe.

If you think Apple is going to download a third-party podcast, edit it to insert their own ads, and then feed the modified version to customers, think again. Such a process would cost a fortune (far more than the ad revenue could ever produce), it would create a huge disgruntled user-base, would be illegal (violation of copyright) and it wouldn't work (because you could still download the original files from the original source.)

So let's drop all the paranoid conspiracy theories already, OK?
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Amen!!! Thank you for bring some common sense to the forum. 🙂
 
Meh, if it keeps podcasts away from the paid subscription model (as adopted by Ricky gervais' second series) then I don't mind putting up with it. It'd have to be implemented so it didn't take away the artwork content that used to go there though.
 
whocares said:
iTunes already is. Remember the "Mini Store™"? 🙄

rolleyes for Mini Store, not Cuba
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😎
The MiniStore was NOT spyware.

The only information it transmitted was the track you were currently playing. Apple clearly stated what data is being sent from iTunes. Just how is that "spyware"?!

Do you know what Spyware really is?
 
I really don't think this would be such a bad idea if it was only limited to podcasts. Those guys are trying to figure out a way to make money, and that'd be a great way. However, that's ONLY IF it doesn't poor over to other areas of iTunes; e.g. your iTunes library.
 
I absolutely despise adverts. but what really amazes me is that they actually do work with people. i mean, how retarted do you have to be to be like "oh hey, there's an ad for dish network at the top of my screen, i guess i'll go ahead and buy it then" 🙄

the stupidity of people in general never ceases to amaze me.
 
Don't we already have the Apple logo flashing up in the iTunes visualization sometimes? Or is that just the windows version? Worked for me, the desire to buy a Mac is very present now. 🙄

That article can really lead to some misunderstanding. I don't mind ads in the album art place on podcasts. You can still minimize iTunes when listening. It's ok if the ads are from the podcasters. I wouldn't mind an option to have huge banners if I can listen to everything on ITMS for free. I can dream right?

Some day will come where we get custom made ads like in Minority Report. The Mac will know what you think by looking at you via iSight and BOOM, full screen banner on both 30" display! 😱 😱 😱


I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
I would rather see ads in podcasts than see people go the Rush Limaugh route and have paid podcasts. Actually I have already seen a couple ads in podcasts and while it suprised me, I really don't mind (there's a fast forward button). As for ads in the album art, who cares? Its a tiny little box in the bottom right that you can turn off if you want. It's just like with any other new technology, people realize very quick as it becomes popular how expensive it is to podcast and now they want to make a little of their money back. Then some exnteprise realizes that they can make big bucks off it and the medium is now commercial.

Can anyone remember when there weren't ads all over the internet or when everything on the internet didnt cost money? I can, it actually wasnt that long ago. As podcasts get popular the same thing is going to happen there.
 
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