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Ads in the iTunes and Podcasts?
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Sounds to me like anouther good reason for add blocking software particularly on the firewall itself. I have allready implamented one on my ipcop firewall system 
and Im sure there are many other firewalls both software and hardware that allow you to do the same.
and Im sure there are many other firewalls both software and hardware that allow you to do the same.
hcuar said:It's a free service from Apple... If they want Ads to increase revenue and keep it otherwise "free"... let em.
Wow, I have a huge problem with this. If the creators of the podcasters are placing the ads then I wouldn't mind it being in the albulm art section. But if Apple is placing the ads and getting all the money I have a HUGE problem with that. They would basically be Apple making money off the podcasters backs.
If their going to host our podcasts for free as well then it's fine,
But they have no reason to do this. the podcasts section of the itunes store is nothing more than a collection of web links we still have to find out own way of getting the podcast hosted uploaded and paid for etc. The Podcasts them selves are almost free advertising for apple as it gets people into the music store.
But they have no reason to do this. the podcasts section of the itunes store is nothing more than a collection of web links we still have to find out own way of getting the podcast hosted uploaded and paid for etc. The Podcasts them selves are almost free advertising for apple as it gets people into the music store.
If you think you have to pay to watch videos in full screen then you deserve to be taken advantage of.astral said:
On topic, I really don't give a crap if Apple puts ads somewhere that could easily be hidden. If it's not shoved down my throat then go for it. I don't understand...why all the fracking drama? I feel like I'm in a locker room with a bunch of PMS'ing teenaged girls.
balamw said:
Don't think I was very clear in my original post, I meant that I preferred this model to the paid-for one in the second series. I thought the ads were generally done quite well.
incidentally, do you know if the ads are still in the first series now, even though you have to pay for it?
Kudos to nagromme and everyone for their explanations of the article. makes sense when you put it like that.
lukevenk said:
You're point is well-taken, but Apple is providing your podcast with a massive audience. If Apple wants to run ads in its music player that it developed, your only recourse is to pull your podcast from iTunes. Don't be so quick to bite the hand that feeds you.
I think you misunderstood TechnoLawyer. The point is that if Apple wants to add a feature to the iTunes software that displays random ads every so often while you are listening to podcasts, they can. Of course there's nothing stopping you from using a different piece of software to get the content, but you would lose the integration of directory+jukebox+portable player that makes iTunes+iPod so appealing.Will_reed said:
I think the only way this makes sense is if it follows a model like Google AdSense as was proposed in another thread, as a way of providing some way of paying the podcasters per listen. Just like AdSense has preserved the free internet a bit longer, something similar for podcasts might help keep content free.
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balamw said:
The only way this could have any benifit is if it gave the money to the back to the podcasters as oposed to apple just being greedy and having it there for the sole purpose of makin them selves a little extra cash. This Just sounds like a ridiculous rumour to me and from reading these posts you get the impression that people think apple hosts the podcasts them selves which is most definatly not the case.
Will_reed said:
Yes, I do. While a user can always copy and paste a podcast feed into iTunes, most people don't know how to do that. The beauty of listing your podcast with iTunes is that "subscribing" becomes simple -- no need to understand RSS feeds. A podcaster upset about Apple showing ads can remove the podcast from Apple's directory, but doing so would be unwise in my opinion. Your podcast would no longer appear in iTunes searches and those who wanted to listen to your podcast in iTunes would have to understand what to do with your feed.
The podcast section of the itunes music store is pretty much just a directory of web links. You click on the subscribe button and itunes kindly places it in your playlist and chechs for updates now and then. Ok now apart from making itunes look a bit like a microsoft product how will this benifit anyone?
Is there a good reason for this? It's not like podcasters are losin revanue they never planned on makin money in the first place remember?
Anyone who supports this is either nuts, doesn't know what their talkin about or both.
Is there a good reason for this? It's not like podcasters are losin revanue they never planned on makin money in the first place remember?
Anyone who supports this is either nuts, doesn't know what their talkin about or both.
Bandwidth still costs money, so typically a popular podcast will end up costing the podcaster more money than one no one listens to.Will_reed said:
Micropayments from ad revenue provide some kind of mechanism to reward the producers of popular podcasts and offset the costs of hosting and producing the content.
Many of the professional podcasts I listen to already include spoken ads, and the last few episodes of the Ricky Gervais show sported both spoken and artwork ads. Then there's strict paid subscription like the second Ricky Gervais series or Rush Limbaugh or Air America. Ultimately what's better? I don't know and I'm not advocating any particular solution, but you can count on money getting involved when podcasts become popular enough.
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balamw said:
yeah and the podcasters are sorting it out because the podcasters are the ones paying. so why should we have more ads shoved on top of that by apple. I mean think about it how would apple distribute all this advert money to the differnt podcasters. Somthing like this just couldn't work logicly unless apple started hosting all the podcasts and doing what those free space websites do
This site makes use of ads "shoved" on there by doubleclick and Google, with arn's consent of course, but is not hosted by either of those companies, nor do each of the ads get approved individually.Will_reed said:
Your point?
Where does it say that Apple will do anything without the podcaster's consent/involvement?
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while not too thrilled about this news either...i can live with ads in iTunes for podcasts...but get nervous thinking about all the new graphical capabilities of the 5G iPod and what that might mean for "advertising in my pocket". Ads on my iPod??? I'd toss the thing so quickly. Next thing you know...ads in iChat, a dedicated ad drawer in Safari...Apple hooks you to their software/hardware, by "thinking different" and then it turns iout they are no better than Msoft or AOL.