Damn right. Keep in mind that almost always, we'll be the first ones to the scene of the accident.
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Afraid of riding an airplane... how do I get myself psyched?
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Damn right. Keep in mind that almost always, we'll be the first ones to the scene of the accident.
If you come to think about it, all those terrible "what if" things happened a while ago, and flights have only become safer. Anyways, I wouldn't worry about it and listen to some music.
Yes, it does.
There's a reason that I used the wording that I did in the post to which you originally responded. The measurement of risk depends on how you define that risk. This risk is usually defined in terms that is most favorable to the subjective party that is representing them.
In this case, the way the airlines define it, by passenger distance, is the more relevant for an individual passenger for a given trip than the overall risk for all passengers on all flights - trips are independent events.
If you live near by, I would take you up in my parents airplane. Small little Piper Warrior. That would be a good way to prepare you for you long flight.
Maybe you should look for a small airport up there? Most have an introduction to flight for about $50-100.
(No, I did not read the entire thread)
Maybe you should look for a small airport up there? Most have an introduction to flight for about $50-100.
(No, I did not read the entire thread)
The chance of being in a fatal car crash is much much higher than being in a fatal aircraft accident.
I did not review the entire thread but for future reference, many airlines have anti-fear of flying classes. Some fearful flyers find it helpful to stick their heads into the flight deck and meet and reassure themselves the pilots appear competent and trustworthy.
It's a shame the OP hasn't been back to give us any kind of update. I wonder if the feared flight experience has occurred yet or if it's towards the end of the summer?
Unless he's a newly crowned NBA champ. Then congratulate him and ask for his autograph.
Unless he's a newly crowned NBA champ. Then congratulate him and ask for his autograph.
Transatlantic flights (especially at night) are just the worst, cannot for a second keep still when flying over the sea. The thought of going in thr ocean is absolutely terrying, and not to mention no airports nearby if anything goes wrong.
Anyone know whether you're most likely to survive an emergency landing over sea or land?
Anyone know whether you're most likely to survive an emergency landing over sea or land?
The sea has very few 10,000 foot runways.
Only Sully is capable of a sea landing, IMHO.
Indeed, but look what happened in new York Hudson river.
There's tons of places to land on land. I'd put the damn thing down on the highway or cow feed if I needed to. But on water and over the ocean? Ummm, this comes to mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRJpRu2RsSs
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There are no 10 foot high waves in the Hudson River
rovex said:The sea has very few 10,000 foot runways.
Only Sully is capable of a sea landing, IMHO.
Indeed, but look what happened in new York Hudson river.
There are no 10 foot high waves in the Hudson River
That's TATL flights are no trouble, there are many diversion airfields, Gander, Halifax, Shannon, Lajes, etc.
Flying is safe, there is nothing to worry about. Take an iPod or something and some good noise-cancelling headphones and listen to your favourite music or a watch a few great movies.
You're actually not too far from a diversion airport. If you take a more northerly route, you'll be near Canada, Greenland or Iceland, and on a southernly route, you're close to the Azores.
I'm trying to think of situations where a TATL flight crashed because it couldn't divert and might've made a safe emergency landing, and can't think of any. TWA 800 crashed shortly after takeoff near Long Island. Pan Am 103 was terrorism, AF 447 had no chance of a safe landing and could've just as easily happened over land.
My thoughts exactly, can't remember any incident where a plane safely landed in the middle of the atlantic or any ocean for that matter.
There has been one case, but it was a Boeing 314 with was basically a boat with wings attached on it
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Honolulu_Clipper
And what I'm saying is that I can't remember any crash of a TATL flight that would've landed safely had there been a place to land.
Recent TATL flights that crashed:
TWA 800: Crashed shortly after takeoff
Air France 447: Stall combined with pilot error
Pan Am 103: Bombing
Concorde: Crashed during takeoff
The only one of those that even happened over water was AF447, and there was no hope of an emergency landing - that could've just as easily happened over land. Besides, most plane crashes are takeoff and landing anyways.
And then you have success stories like Air Transat 236, which had a fuel leak over the Atlantic and was able to glide to a safe landing in the Azores.
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The odds in real terms based of figures going back over the last 25 years you have a 1 in 9.2 million chance if your flying with a major airline.
The odds in real terms based of figures going back over the last 25 years you have a 1 in 9.2 million chance if your flying with a major airline.
Not really
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_international_airspace
Basically, international airspace = water, and that's a very short list.
Lufthansa 181 was a hijacking, and United 826 was just severe turbulence that caused fatal injuries to one passenger (10 bucks says they didn't have their seatbelt on). The rest are from the 40s and 50s and hardly mean anything now, except for South African 295 which may be the only flight in history that could've benefited from a closer diversion airport.
