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Oh man, everyone had those and I remember a lot of them breaking at the joint. I liked the non flip versions, believe they were called Slivers.
They were called Razrs. And I remember mine fondly ... and laugh at how I used to think they were so cool.
 
Ahh.... you have no facts here, sorry. Two-thirds have smaller then 5" phones, you can't be sure if these phones aren't bigger then 4" which would still be considered larger then what the guy you quoted was talking about

You are so right. Even I don't know what I prefer. Please teach me.
 
You might be right about some wanting a large screen but please get a grip on statistics before posting. An average of 4.8 doesn't tell you that most people want or buy an 4.8 " screen.
I'm exaggerating now but an average salary of $20,000 tells you only that, it doesn't tell you that some may be part time and earning $5K or that some may be movie stars earning $50M, (these outer values can skew your average massively). For most common you want at least the Modal value.


What kind of nonsense is this? MOST smart phones sold today have screens larger than 4". What don't you understand? It's not just a statistic, is't the reality.
 
I mean, the primary reason other companies developed these absurdly large screens is because their OSes are inefficient and require more battery life. Bigger screen = bigger battery.

Is that actually a fact? Because surely a bigger screen uses more battery so would negate your idea of more battery being available for the "inefficient" OS.

I think screens got bigger because people wanted bigger screens. These aren't phones anymore, they're computers.

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So that means 66% would be the iPhone. Still pretty good market share :p

Does it? What about the millions of android and windows phones (and a few BlackBerrys) that have a screen size below 5"?
 
So nearly half who have no use for a large phone are inadequate, they just haven't gotten the memo. An important distinction.

Half of the high-end customers not having a large smartphone doesn't mean they don't want it. I currently don't have a large smartphone but only because Apple doesn't sell one yet. I guarantee you I'm not alone.
 
People buy what's available. Show me a flagship android phone that has a screen size less than 4.5 inches. This doesn't exist anymore, and it hasn't for the past 2 years. These false trends are really tiresome. I think we can all agree that there is a market for smaller screens as well as larger screens.
 
True, but there is a pretty obvious distortion of things caused by the complete inability of Android OEMs to make a high-performance phone that isn't huge. Apple has never had that problem and so it is quite likely the demand for a huge iPhone is less than the media fools think. Remember how much Apple had to make a smaller iPad? The mini wound up having little impact on total sales. So let's not assume that a 5" iPhone will change much.

I don't understand why you assume that Android OEMs make high-end smartphones large due to inability to make them smaller, but even if this were true doesn't change the fact that they are very successful.

Inferring the impact of the mini is nit that straightforward. If I remember correctly the iPad mini accounted for roughly 40% of Q4 2014 sales, which makes it a very successful product indeed. Were apple not to offer a "mini" iPad I assume part of these 40% might have bought a normal iPad, but many of them might have opted for a competitor's smaller model instead.
 
Is that actually a fact? Because surely a bigger screen uses more battery so would negate your idea of more battery being available for the "inefficient" OS.

I think screens got bigger because people wanted bigger screens. These aren't phones anymore, they're computers.

Some may want bigger screens. I think a big reason is the marketing push by android manufacturers. They needed a differentiator. The only thing they could really go with was screen size which I think created this artificial demand, since they don't sell anything else.
 
I am not going to pay more than double for getting 4.7". If iPhone 6 is 4.7", then I will buy a Nexus. I cannot believe how such a big company can overlook trends and what people want. 4.7" was two years ago.

Also, anything less than 1080p resolution and I will never buy an Apple phone again. At this point it is just beyond stupid how they are falling behind.
 
That's a lot of phones bundled together into the 5 inch and below category. I wonder what the figures would be like had it been a more realistic definition of larger screen such as 4.5
 
Some may want bigger screens. I think a big reason is the marketing push by android manufacturers. They needed a differentiator. The only thing they could really go with was screen size which I think created this artificial demand, since they don't sell anything else.

Well, hopefully Apple will continue to sell 4" iPhone even after the iPhone with larger screen is released, so we'll see how nobody really wants to have a larger screen and everybody keeps buying the 4" iPhone.
 
Why do people want something so freaking large?!

I wear jeans like a lot of people try stuffing a 6" phone in your pocket. Thats 13" of stuff in my pants! Haha. I'll have to dig my combat trousers (from the 90's) out of the loft as they are the only things with a big enough pockets.

Or maybe it comes with a free minion to carry it around?
 
havent u heard, its not about "being first but taking the time to do it right" at least thats what apples marleting says

But, they are a long time behind what the market wants, and as admitted, known for a long time. I cannot see how they can do it late but right. Given that the Home button will stay, and that the top bezel has to equal the bottom as they require symmetry, the iPhone 6 4.7 will be larger than other 4.7's. So, if a user said of another 4.7, I like it, but no bigger, then the iPhone 4.7 will be too big. If this is the case, they will not do it right as with larger phones, the overall form factor is already getting big, Apples will be bigger.

One way to help do it right, is to get rid of this mindless thinner and lighter. Make it thinner and lighter, then give back that in the form of battery size, then at least you have a phone that has the BEST battery life. Many I know perceive thinner and lighter with delicate, thats not a win.
 
Correct. Mega-phones are a small portion of the market. Big enough for Apple to go after, but certainly not deserving of 3+ years of endless media attention. Most people want their portable devices compact.

Exactly! iPhone 5 is a good compromise. I can't stand users who scream because the want 5" inch otherwise the device is "useless"
 
They did/do have 2 sizes. You can still purchase the 3.5inch 4s for "free".


These numbers are really eye opening. It's going to be interesting to see how much apple takes off with a larger phone. Most the people I talk to are only interested in screen size (not saying it right or wrong it just is what it is)

You cannot compare the 3.5 and 4 as two sizes. The 4 was a late, rushed "something".

I feel that Apple could take off but there is a problem. The 4.7 is out in September, rumours show production issues making the 5.5 later, maybe early 2015. So, some will wait, reducing genuine September sales. Although some will buy the 4.7 and sell it for a 5.5. The resulting form factor bothers me, I expect Apple criticism if no larger screen to change to, "its nice but too big for a 4.7". May as well get a Galaxy 5, same external size
 
I think we can all agree that there is a market for smaller screens as well as larger screens.

I agree, but most don't. Those that like small screens seem to complain about larger ones. Those that like larger complain about smaller ones. A few, like me, know that ideally a manufacturer caters for both markets. I expect the 5S and 4S will be around for a good while, so there you have 4 sizes, perfect.

If a user doesn't like larger, do not buy it, and vice versa
 
Exactly! iPhone 5 is a good compromise. I can't stand users who scream because the want 5" inch otherwise the device is "useless"

A good compromise for you doesn't mean a good compromise for everyone.
 
I'm probably in the minority, but large screen phones have zero appeal to me. I like being able to grasp the phone with one hand and actually fit it in my pocket.

I mean, the primary reason other companies developed these absurdly large screens is because their OSes are inefficient and require more battery life. Bigger screen = bigger battery.

I use my 3GS with 2 hands!
Your statement about inefficient OS is wrong. Screens keep going larger because of usage diversification not poor battery management...

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Exactly! iPhone 5 is a good compromise. I can't stand users who scream because the want 5" inch otherwise the device is "useless"

I personnaly do not want to hear about less than 5". What do you know about usage of others to believe iphone 5 is perfect size?
My wife has a 5s and this is way too small for me, some people here are power users, some others are light users with small needs but still willing to go with AAPL, fine!
 
The iPod Touch would be better as a 5"+ device--it's a super-mini-tablet rather than an mp3 player.

For a phone, bigger than 4" would be better, but size matters. A too-large phone becomes uncomfortable and impractical.

Charts like this don't dictate what people want or need. Charts like this dictate what people are stuck with.
 
The best option is to not leave a gap in the market for other manufacturers to exploit.
The gap between the iPhone and the iPad created a niche for other manufacturers to jump in. Sure at first the poor battery life of early android versions prompted a larger phone to accommodate a bigger battery, but lo! Some people, particularly people that liked to use their smartphone for activities other than phone calls actually liked the bigger screen.

Apple successfully used the multi model option for the iPod to keep out competitors, but did not for iPhone. I suspect this was Steve Jobs.

And it left a gap. Ideally, all screen sizes would be accommodated. 3.5 4.0, 4.7, 5.5, 7.9, 9.7, 12.
No gaps.
 
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