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AI Chief John Giannandrea Takes Over Apple Car Project

Nobody is going to license this tech from Apple. And Apple historically doesn't license technology to anyway, so it's unclear why Apple is doing this...unless they want automated mapping vehicles roaming around the world.

In other news, Mansfield retires again!
 
Red Oak said:
Apple is still 5+ years from launching any vehicle, if at all

It seems like they still don’t even no what they want to do in this space. After ten years and billions and billions of $ spent
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Which I'm ok with. The products they're forcing out on a yearly basis now aren't exactly expiring. Time for Apple to take their time and wow people again.
 
Neepman said:
The liabiiities and integration issues are going to keep driverless vehicles out of the possibility of anyone who's is capable of reading this posts lifetime.
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nope. driverless vehicles will be legal in the next 5-10 years. yes driverless vehicles will kill thousands of people but the data will show it will save millions.
 
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mannyvel said:
Nobody is going to license this tech from Apple. And Apple historically doesn't license technology to anyway, so it's unclear why Apple is doing this...unless they want automated mapping vehicles roaming around the world.

In other news, Mansfield retires again!
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Sometimes you have to remember that what Apple is doing isn’t limited to your ability to envision it.
 
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Could all this Apple Car thing be something like Apple’s software to make Car Play the brain behind a car autonomous driving? The car manufacturers puts the hardware and Apple the software, just like MFI cars or
something like that?
 
Red Oak said:
Apple is still 5+ years from launching any vehicle, if at all

It seems like they still don’t even no what they want to do in this space. After ten years and billions and billions of $ spent
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They're busy patenting every aspect of an EV before releasing final designs.
 
Great. I was hoping this guy was going to help make Siri equal to or better than Alexa/Assistant. Oh well.
 
twocents said:
My understanding from sources, take what you will, is that this project is intended to yield a carOS that handles the smart operations of the vehicle, e.g. cruise control, self-parking, safe braking, the same way CarPlay handles the dashboard at-a-glance navigation and communicating. Now with JG, machine learning is going to put this in higher gear
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Hopefully it won't need a phone tethered to it to run.
 
there are now a lot of established and even more startups in the space of autonomous driving ... don't know (any)more where Apple would fit in ... no way they are developing an entire car, that's not a mid-high margin business, even at the high end ...
 
Eh. How about they start with getting CarPlay right? It's in their home court, and it still needs work.
 
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mcfrazieriv said:
My hope for this project has run dry. It was interesting back when Tesla was the only viable EV. Now you have literally every manufacturer coming out with a vehicle with decades of experience in production. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Ford, Caddy, Hummer, Rivian, Lexus, etc.
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And still none of them can outdo Tesla. Tesla has strong, radical leadership. The other new carmakers, less so. And the old carmakers are part of the establishment that has been fighting the electric car until the last possible moment.

I agree, if Apple wanted a shot, they had to be one of the radical new players. They weren't; they didn't even get something out the door. Google likewise, but they're a lot more annoying because they tell us how great their basically nonexistent product is.
 
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JosephAW said:
When they finally release a car it will be priced like their new headphones with three more zeros added to the price and Mr Cook will say this is a car for the average citizen. 😛
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There is no “car,” and it’s baffling that people put an ounce of stock in anything that Bloomberg says.
 
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farewelwilliams said:
nope. driverless vehicles will be legal in the next 5-10 years. yes driverless vehicles will kill thousands of people but the data will show it will save millions.
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It's about the causes of death, not the numbers. If I crash my manually operated car, it's my fault or another driver's, not the carmaker's. Or if I'm hit as a pedestrian.

Autonomous carmakers would need some kind of govt-mandated immunity from lawsuits, provided their crash rate is low enough, or they'd have to just take the lawsuits.
 
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az431 said:
There is no “car,” and it’s baffling that people put an ounce of stock in anything that Bloomberg says.
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After the evidence-free article about the secret Chinese spyware chips in Big Tech's servers, yeah, forget Bloomberg.
 
ryanwarsaw said:
Sometimes you have to remember that what Apple is doing isn’t limited to your ability to envision it.
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Yes, and sometimes you need to understand the entire culture, DNA, and history of a company before you can understand what a company is capable and not capable of doing.
 
With a long long long history of buggy software preceding them, the likelihood of anything reliable ending up driving a vehicle on its own is ZERO
 
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Erehy Dobon said:
And you will be wrong.

There are already tests taking place in some US states and abroad. Here in California there are already prototype autonomous vehicles with California DOT registration numbers for commercial use, the same ones used by commute buses and limousines.

Waymo has several of the minivans with the TCP numbers.

The legal system will decide where the liability will fall but the most logical guess would be to the vehicle operator/registered owner. All of the DMVs have started along this path anyhow, allowing provisional permission for these test vehicles to be on public roads because there is already insurance and some sort of liability agreement.

I can't predict exactly when it will happen but it's not far away.

I have been around these autonomous driving vehicles, as another driver, a cyclist and a pedestrian. For sure, I feel WAY safer around these prototype autonomous vehicles than a gas-powered vehicle being operated by a teenager or someone in their early twenties.

It is worth pointing out that these autonomous test vehicles are now collectively showing statistics that they are in fact safer than human-powered vehicles in their current testing environments.

Note that many individual pieces have already made it to mass market automobiles: lane guidance, frontal collision detection, assisted parking, etc.
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Except no one cares. People in general are not interested in autonomous driving. Not at all. It is an entertaining gimmick inside the tech bubble. It doesn't exist outside of that.

It makes for a cool albeit extremely expensive proof-of-concept. One that will not get off the ground in our lifetime. It doesn't matter if its safer....it could be many orders of magnitude safer. People are happy with things the way they are, and are not clamoring for their cars to drive for them.
 
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