I dont think Ive ever had less than 6 tabs open on my Air. All weekend I had 9tabs open and not a single crash. My guess is iOS 7 and javascript that isnt optimized.
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All iPads Air Lack of Ram or iOS 7: Some sites just crash?
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I dont think Ive ever had less than 6 tabs open on my Air. All weekend I had 9tabs open and not a single crash. My guess is iOS 7 and javascript that isnt optimized.
Results of my test for this site:
[SPECS]
iPad 3, iOS 7.0.4
[RESULTS]
Using Safari OR iCab Mobile:
www.marca.com without Google translation: no crash
www.marca.com with Google translation: crash
Thus, Google translation is the problem.
That website, however, is MASSIVE. After the crash, all other running apps and tabs have to refresh as that page tries to attempt to use all the RAM available to the iPad.
[SPECS]
iPad 3, iOS 7.0.4
[RESULTS]
Using Safari OR iCab Mobile:
www.marca.com without Google translation: no crash
www.marca.com with Google translation: crash
Thus, Google translation is the problem.
That website, however, is MASSIVE. After the crash, all other running apps and tabs have to refresh as that page tries to attempt to use all the RAM available to the iPad.
I tested it with Safari, Chrome and Mercury Browser on retina mini which I just got this evening. It crashes if you have at least one more tab open on all of them. Based on the diagnostics, it looks like it crashes because of low memory. The reason it shows for crashing is per process limit.
* * MobileSafari <e7a0a9831f8c3339a9425f56f51e5005> * * * 179721 * * * * * 179721* 200* [per-process-limit] (frontmost) (resume)
So it seems like there is a limitation on amount of memory each app is using. It doesn't fail if there isn't any other tab open.
* * MobileSafari <e7a0a9831f8c3339a9425f56f51e5005> * * * 179721 * * * * * 179721* 200* [per-process-limit] (frontmost) (resume)
So it seems like there is a limitation on amount of memory each app is using. It doesn't fail if there isn't any other tab open.
Just an update: I still haven't been able to get the iPad air to crash once, or on the link the OP provided...even though my original iPad air crashed a lot, and every single time with the google translate link. In fact I'm writing this post in safari with 9 other tabs open, including that Google translate link that crashed my old iPad air every time. As well as netflix, Facebook, and notes in the background.
And to that guy calling out apple defenders, I hope you weren't referring to me? What would I have to gain by saying my first iPad air crashed, but not this new one? If someone can let me know how to create a live screencast video of my iPad screen i can definitely show you. Got nothing to hide here.
Either way, I'm still visiting the link occasionally and crossing my fingers that this one doesn't crash. So far it's rock solid with not a single crash on any program yet, but it's still pretty early to tell. I'll update here if it starts crashing.
And to that guy calling out apple defenders, I hope you weren't referring to me? What would I have to gain by saying my first iPad air crashed, but not this new one? If someone can let me know how to create a live screencast video of my iPad screen i can definitely show you. Got nothing to hide here.
Either way, I'm still visiting the link occasionally and crossing my fingers that this one doesn't crash. So far it's rock solid with not a single crash on any program yet, but it's still pretty early to tell. I'll update here if it starts crashing.
Site crashed my Air 3 times. I clear cookies and data and it loads fine. Safari. I get Safari and Mail crashes.
Reliably crashed my rMini.
BUT: I remembered something similar with "Instagram" on my iPhone and they had a message pop up to "reboot your phone" if crashes continue.
Did the same with the iPad, after the reboot: No more crashes on that page.
Could anyone confirm?
BUT: I remembered something similar with "Instagram" on my iPhone and they had a message pop up to "reboot your phone" if crashes continue.
Did the same with the iPad, after the reboot: No more crashes on that page.
Could anyone confirm?
I had this issue in abundance (safari and RR3)... Called Apple, exchanged iPad Air and did a clean install (without restore). Was good for a week or so, but now ITS BACK!!! 
Albeit much less often.
Totally iOS 7. When I called the tech said tha tthey were aware of this problem, so hopefully its addressed soon. Of note, it did happen on my ipad 4 also...
Sad part is I love the air so much I don't really care at this point. It really is a wonderful work of art that works flawlessly 99% of the time
Albeit much less often. Totally iOS 7. When I called the tech said tha tthey were aware of this problem, so hopefully its addressed soon. Of note, it did happen on my ipad 4 also...
Sad part is I love the air so much I don't really care at this point. It really is a wonderful work of art that works flawlessly 99% of the time
It doesn't crash my iPhone 5S, so I doubt it has anything to do with the A7.
But if you go to the site without using google translate, there's a link right at the top of the page "Try our new English version."
Maybe you'd get a better reading experience there rather than through a mutilated Google translation?
But if you go to the site without using google translate, there's a link right at the top of the page "Try our new English version."
Maybe you'd get a better reading experience there rather than through a mutilated Google translation?
The English page has different articles than the Spanish(?)/Porteguese(?) page.
Translated site reliably crashed my Air too. It'd be interesting if someone with the new beta could try it.
Well, perhaps the hope that this site is some kind of test with the Air and iOS 7 is not going to work. Although it worked the first and second time on my non-retina, non 64 bit, mini (iOS 7), it is now crashing Safari repeatedly...with a low memory report.
It's important to use the google translate page of the link ( here: Marca )
The non-google translate page , well I have no problems with that. I notice that the above link opens within Google Translate, and in safe mode, with the warning about Flash plug ins...so maybe there is more to this than it looked like, late last night.
oh well.
It's important to use the google translate page of the link ( here: Marca )
The non-google translate page , well I have no problems with that. I notice that the above link opens within Google Translate, and in safe mode, with the warning about Flash plug ins...so maybe there is more to this than it looked like, late last night.
oh well.
nope, not at all. You provided very interesting data that helped introduce a new wrinkle into the mix.
Much appreciated.
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You obviously have never done any software development. The holy grail of any problem/error is a repeatable case. Having users say "it crashes", "it runs slow", "it doesn't work right", etc... With no evidence are difficult to track down/fix, and often waste a ton of time.
This site is littered with complaints about iOS7 and the iPad air crashing like crazy. I'm sure someone at apple is very appreciative for this info(OP forwarded this to apple, right?)
IMO, these crashes DO have something to do with RAM but its not that there isnt enough. Its that there is some faulty RAM out there that made it into the Airs and minis and this is what the problem is. Thats the only explanation that make sense. Otherwise, if 1GB was truly not enough.... the return and complaint rate would be front page news and they'd probably get the Govt involved for a mass refund or something.
Its the RAM...but not the amount of it.
IMO, these crashes DO have something to do with RAM but its not that there isnt enough. Its that there is some faulty RAM out there that made it into the Airs and minis and this is what the problem is. Thats the only explanation that make sense. Otherwise, if 1GB was truly not enough.... the return and complaint rate would be front page news and they'd probably get the Govt involved for a mass refund or something.
Its the RAM...but not the amount of it.
I'm of the opinion that it's something related to iOS7 but I'll swap it if not resolved sometime soon.
This site crashed on my iPad Air which has only crashed a couple of times since I've had it (2 weeks) and it also crashed just now when I tested it on my iPad 4 running iOS 7.0.4. I hope this is just a software issue.
Crashes on all my iPads 5/4/3 - except iPad 2 that's on iOS 6. But returned the 5 already, just not enough RAM. Sad, apple gimps the ram on this one as well.