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All iPads Air Lack of Ram or iOS 7: Some sites just crash?
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I just checked out the link and it crashed my Air as well. Won't be bookmarking that site LOL!
This is my philosophy on these kinds of sites.
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Google translation is the issue....try again this link below without translation
http://www.marca.com
http://www.marca.com
IMO, these crashes DO have something to do with RAM but its not that there isnt enough. Its that there is some faulty RAM out there that made it into the Airs and minis and this is what the problem is. Thats the only explanation that make sense. Otherwise, if 1GB was truly not enough.... the return and complaint rate would be front page news and they'd probably get the Govt involved for a mass refund or something.
Its the RAM...but not the amount of it.
Hmmm...I can't say you're wrong but i doubt this theory. I think faulty RAM would be MUCH more obvious. Faulty RAM would be leading to things like hard freezes of the entire OS or device shutdowns not just app crashes. I too see occassional crashes of safari and frequent tab & app reloads but it doesnt impact usability that much, which is why i think most normal users aren't complaining. I'm still really enjoying my iPad Air even with these issues which makes me think RAM amount or iOS 7 are to blame.
IMO, these crashes DO have something to do with RAM but its not that there isnt enough. Its that there is some faulty RAM out there that made it into the Airs and minis and this is what the problem is. Thats the only explanation that make sense. Otherwise, if 1GB was truly not enough.... the return and complaint rate would be front page news and they'd probably get the Govt involved for a mass refund or something.
Its the RAM...but not the amount of it.
No, if it was the RAM, it would not leave "Low on memory" in the logs. It would leave stuff like segmentation error, unknown instruction, weird behavior of programs.
Just because you're all going to the same link it doesn't mean you are all opening the same page. All it takes is one Ad. Sometimes it is there, sometimes it isn't. Anyway, whatever the problem it is clear that it has nothing to do with the Air, 1gb RAM and 64bit architecture. The best way to "solve" the so called "low memory problem" is to stop looking at the logs and making dubious assumptions.
What I childish and pointless response to a logical observation. This is what makes this forum so great. Carry on and go forth.
Low memory does not cause crashes.
Buggy OS and/or Apps are very much responsible for this.
You are clueless. Low memory does causes crashes.
This is from the linux kernel:
Out of Memory: Killed process [PID] [process name].
When the OS runs out of memory, it starts wacking programs. The OS didn't have a bug, the programs didn't have a bug, there was just not enough memory to go around, so it killed off a process.
And how is "The best way to solve the so called low memory problem is to stop looking at the logs and making dubious assumptions." not "you are holding it wrong"? You think not looking in the logs is going to stop the crashes?
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It's going to help reduce your anxiety.
There is a difference between a crash and an app being kicked out of memory in the background to make room for an active app. I have not had a single crash (which, in my head, is when the application unexpectedly quits while I am using it), yet my log has all these memory entries. Why am I going to worry? I click the app. I use the app. The app works. I click the home button. I click another app. I use the other app. It works. I double click the home button, switch to the first app. That app comes up. It works.
Yes, sometimes Safari reloads a page. A lot of times it doesn't. Really, is this that big of a deal? Are log entries when apps are NOT crashing a big deal?
If they are, I would definitely recommend you return your iPad. Because that's how it works. Yes, iOS 7 is buggy. But the whole lack of RAM thing has been so blown out of proportion (as is the case with many "issues" around here) that its not even funny anymore.
It's clearly an iOS7 issue. The iPad had had the same or less RAM since the original, yet Safari has never crashed like this before with lots of tabs open. It's not a 64bit issue either as my original mini crashed too.
is this an iOS issue or Air issue? Looks like a few of you are jumping the gun on blaming the Air.
Troubleshooting 101
Troubleshooting 101
It does not appear to be exclusive to the iPad Air. We're seeing other devices crash. The common thread between all the devices seems to be iOS 7.
I'd hate to have to exchange my Air. I just installed a BSE back skin. I'm sure Apple won't reimburse for the cost of any accessories installed.
I'd hate to have to exchange my Air. I just installed a BSE back skin. I'm sure Apple won't reimburse for the cost of any accessories installed.
Only on a badly written OS.
A well behaved OS would just tell you "sorry I can't do that because I don't have enough memory"
or use some paging and be done with that.
Anyway I am out of here. Not interested in the trolling.
Sell your IPad mate. Clearly not right for you.
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Yeah, bury one's head, and trust that apple will fix the problem - eventually.
My "faith" in Apple to fix obvious software problems died long ago. My parent's late 2007 iMac(like numerous others) can not be upgraded past 10.6.2 - because of a SOFTWARE issue with Apple's kext for the graphics card. So ZERO support from Apple in fixing a bug with a year old(they bought it in 2008) system. It's 100% software, because the issue goes away when running windows, and if you revert the OS back to 10.6.2 - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1262891/
I have ZERO faith in apple fixing it's software to fix known issues. They have screwed people in the past, and they will do it again. The only way to get them to pay attention is to raise a fuss. IF you don't like it, you can go into only positive threads.
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Exchanging my air later today cuz i can't stand the crash anymore. All I have open is safari, no other app
Good points and you are prolly right. Im just taking some educated guesses here.
Interesting - I didnt know that.
Is everyone getting a total reboot (flash to the Apple logo) or is it Safari crashing and returning you to the home screen?
I have not had the total reboot, just Safari crashing. Some people are reporting a total rebooting taking place.
Me thinks, Safari crash, software update may fix. Rebooting, may be hardware issue. Not 100% sure, just thinking out loud here.
I have not had the total reboot, just Safari crashing. Some people are reporting a total rebooting taking place.
Me thinks, Safari crash, software update may fix. Rebooting, may be hardware issue. Not 100% sure, just thinking out loud here.