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A discount for bringing them old stuff that they're trying to sell? Why would they do that.

They're pushing that for iPhone, showing you a lower price with the little asterisk.
But AirPods are selling like hotcakes so I guess they don't need to promote them the same way, not yet
 
Pretty sure XS/XR batteries are still replaceable though... using iPhones may be a bad example...

Fair enough - I didn't realize this but iFixit rates the XR and XS as having a higher repair score (6 for each; see link) than many Android phones (3-6). Still, 6/10 is not great, and as you say Apple doesn't do much better with large devices they sell.
 
Apple needs to stop making products that cannot be repaired. You might give Apple a pass for the ear buds, but they do the same thing for all of their products and it sucks. Any yes, I am still using an iPhone 4S. Why? Because getting to the battery to replace wasn't hard unlike the newer models, and treating electronics like disposable trash is ruining the planet. I'll be upgrading my phone soon, but Apple increasingly is making their products less attractive by making them hard to repair while simultaneously making them less reliable.

This has been Apple's (Steve Jobs's) philosophy from the beginning. What you are asking for is an Apple that isn't Apple. Maybe it would be a good thing but it would be a completely different approach than Apple has ever had (except for the dark ages of the 90s).
 
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There is something ironic about these being a status symbol among 'millenials' who prize saving the oceans, cutting waste and cutting CO2 emissions when these are perhaps one of the worst accessories in existence to buy for the environment.

Everything becomes easier when you stop expecting people to make sense.
 
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This has been Apple's (Steve Jobs's) philosophy from the beginning. What you are asking for is an Apple that isn't Apple. Maybe it would be a good thing but it would be a completely different approach than Apple has ever had (except for the dark ages of the 90s).

I dont think that's true in the case of Macs though.

There was a golden era where things were easily repairable, and I'm referring to the unibody non-retina MacBook and macBook Pros, though the non-unibodies didnt seem that troubling to repair either before it. Battery replacement, hard drive upgrades, ram upgrades, you name it.

Heck, in my 2010 MBP I even gutted the disc drive and put an SSD and caddy in there so I have flash for OS+apps and spinning disk for data. It was so ahead of its time and easy to restore to stock if I had to bring it in for service (whcih I dont think I ever did)

Even non-retina MacBook airs having SSD and RAM soldered on the board, it was still easy to access the logic board, or the battery.

It wasn't really until retina macs, under Tim, that they became totally un-repairable. The fact that I have serious doubts about the durability of them long term, puts more salt in the wound.
 
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I thought Apple related in the announcement that these new AirPods have an extra hour of battery life? How so with the same sized battery? 5 hours of listening and 3 hours of talk time. Can't wait to see the tests.
Got mine Wednesday and music playtime has been just over 5 hours so a big improvement. Haven't measured the call time but it drains the battery really fast. I'll probably need to start doing one ear at a time for that.
 
I got the original airpods the day they came out. I don’t use them everyday, but the battery is definitely about half of what is was, enough so I might run out on a extra long conference call, although that hasn’t happened yet. The case, however, still holds a nice long charge. I really do love the AirPods, and will buy new ones whenever the battery becomes an issue for me.

I do think Apple should make it more clear, though, that AirPods will fail when the battery gives, and that these have an average two- to three- year lifespan.
 
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It wasn't really until retina macs, under Tim, that they became totally un-repairable.

Yes, the products released under Steve all had very good user accessibility (minus the unibody LCD iMacs). The G3/G4/G5 desktops were all designed around ease of internal access.
 
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Really? What about the iPad that is non-repairable either and much larger? Literally the majority of Apple's lineup is now non-user repairable. And I don't get the hatred towards millennials as I see just as many Boomers and Gen Xers with AirPods as I do millennials. I do not see what sociology has to do with headphone choice.

I'm a millenial myself, to be clear. But I specifically said "accessory".
 
I find it funny they gave it a 0/10 for repairability. Not everything can or is even meant to be user serviceable.

iFixit are the biggest bunch of whiners. They are constantly bitching about repairabilty on products that aren't designed to work that way. Earth to iFixit: This is not a 1970's TV you can just crack open and replace the vacuum tubes.

It's apparent you don't own a 2-year old first gen AirPods as I do, I have a disposable product in front of me with depleted batteries that I wish I could easily swap them out and continue using them instead of throwing them in the trash.

All that amazing tech, H1, bluetooth 5, inductive case etc, all of that in the trash in 2 years because you can't replace batteries. And no, Apple's battery service costs almost the same as buying them new.
 
iFixIt is just maddening. They apply the same repairability expectations to AirPods as they do to a bloody LEGO set. They seem to be on a crusade to destroy their credibility one “repairability rating” at a time. For the rest of Planet Earth, the inability for these marvels to be repaired isn’t even surprising let alone disappointing, and that fact certainly doesn’t render them “disposable.”
 
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It's apparent you don't own a 2-year old first gen AirPods as I do, I have a disposable product in front of me with depleted batteries that I wish I could easily swap out batteries and continue using them instead of throwing them in the trash.

Actually, I do own first gen AirPods.

Foot, meet mouth.
 
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There is something ironic about these being a status symbol among 'millenials' who prize saving the oceans, cutting waste and cutting CO2 emissions when these are perhaps one of the worst accessories in existence to buy for the environment.

There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, so chill out and stop blaming the Millennials.
 
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