I agree, but no-one can currently do it without some loss of quality over BT.compression and lossless is not the same thing…you can have 100% lossless sent in a compressed format.
I agree, but no-one can currently do it without some loss of quality over BT.compression and lossless is not the same thing…you can have 100% lossless sent in a compressed format.
So just plug in your headphones to the standard 3.5mm jack. Oh, wait, you can't do that on Apple devices. Time for more dongles!I agree, but no-one can currently do it without some loss of quality over BT.
I don’t know if there will be updates to iTunes to support 192/24 and 96/24 but I’m guessing there will be?? I’m currently play dsf and FLAC files through a free 3rd party app. I use the HDMI output from my MacBook to my Denon receiver, which has an internal DAC. It also works with my Oppo Blu-ray player’s HDMI input. I’ll be curious to see how Apple’s format will work from an output standpoint. Intrigued by the possibility of accessing additional contentWould you assume that playing iTunes on an iMac through a usb connected external audio interface into studio monitors will provide high resolution audio?
Spotify doesn’t have the same issue at all, because they don’t sell folks headphones. They publish High resolution music for folks who have decent hifi equipment or high-end wired headphones (actually medium end wired headphones will surpass wireless in most cases)…that will be the same for Apple. Difference is Apple has been peddling convenience over quality (wireless over wired) and for 99% that is a perfectly reasonable approach. It is somewhat ironic they now have decided to peddle music quality with none of their products able to benefit (I know an iPad and Mac can, but rather pointless given the crude speakers included, so again rely on decent wired headphones)Yes, but fortunately for Spotify, no one would care. They have the uncanny ability to “Not be a five letter fruit themed company with ‘A’ as the first letter”, so anything they do will likely get far less publicity![]()
its not because of BT per se...there isn’t enough bandwidth to transmit lossless so what ultimately gets transmitted is lossy. aptX & LADC are compression algorithms that allow more data to be transmitted over BT so can get nearer to “CD like” quality....and of course BT is susceptible to noise and interferenceI agree, but no-one can currently do it without some loss of quality over BT.
Airplay uses ALAC for transmission so it has always supported lossless audio, but I don’t think it has been updated to adapt to multi-channel or above 48 kHz and 24 bit audio.Hopefully lossless via Airplay to a HomePod is supported.
No 3.5mm jack, no lossless. iPhone Lightning dongles won't help here.I don’t know if there will be updates to iTunes to support 192/24 and 96/24 but I’m guessing there will be?? I’m currently play dsf and FLAC files through a free 3rd party app. I use the HDMI output from my MacBook to my Denon receiver, which has an internal DAC. It also works with my Oppo Blu-ray player’s HDMI input. I’ll be curious to see how Apple’s format will work from an output standpoint. Intrigued by the possibility of accessing additional content
It's not a flop whatsoever if you use capable equipment.I’ve never seen an Apple service flop right at launch, yet here we are!
Source? As not seen Apple state that, or anyone confirm Apple meant that.That should read AirPods Max will not support hi-res lossless. The DAC in the lightning->3.5mm adapter, the ADC in the 3.5mm to lightning cable, and the DAC in the AirPods Max are standard components that don't operate with lossy codecs. But those components are likely only capable of up to 48kHz sample rates.
There is a workaround, FWIW. The Apple 4K camera adapter supports lossless, but you have to connect it to a DAC.No 3.5mm jack, no lossless. iPhone Lightning dongles won't help here.
But Android users will be able to enjoy Apple Music lossless through 3.5mm. 🤣
AH, yes, another reason why folks just won’t care as much. Good point.Spotify doesn’t have the same issue at all, because they don’t sell folks headphones.
Dragonfly makes a USB to 3.5 headphone DAC that you can connect to the 4K camera adapter. It’s far too complicated than it should be, but it works.There is a workaround, FWIW. The Apple 4K camera adapter supports lossless, but you have to connect it to a DAC.
Virtually every decent review website on launch made it clear that the Max’s could not receive HR music unlike the Sony, Bose and Sennheiser units they were being compared to (all of which can use a 3.5mm Jack to listen to music even with flat batteries)Source? As not seen Apple state that, or anyone confirm Apple meant that.
Just cos you say the hardware can do something =/= that Apple will support it.
Definitely not, especially since it's a free add-on. There shouldn't be a single reason to complain. Airpods Max didn't support lossless 6months ago, so why would it suddenly support it today 🤷♂️It's not a flop whatsoever if you use capable equipment.
Where's the 3.5mm jack on the Samsung Galaxy S20 & 21? The Pixel 5? Along with all the other Android phone makers also going the same route or removing the 3.5mm jack?No 3.5mm jack, no lossless. iPhone Lightning dongles won't help here.
But Android users will be able to enjoy Apple Music lossless through 3.5mm. 🤣
They will probably release a iTunes update.
Interesting. So this is decoded on device—on the headphone side—I guess? I'm kinda surprised Apple doesn't have something similar, but maybe it's going to be a new feature of updated AirPods... Probably they didn't want to license the tech from Sony, and likely have their own version either in development or ready to go.Actually LDAC is a thing, and it supports up to 32bit. On bluetooth.
LDAC has its flaws – **** battery life, a lot of unnecessary stuff and poor range – often times pretty bad. Snazzy Labs has a video on it in his review of the APM
Yes it will. Lightning/USB-C to 3.5mm dongles support 16/44.1k. Which depending on your original source (e.g. CD rip) IS lossless.No 3.5mm jack, no lossless. iPhone Lightning dongles won't help here.
But Android users will be able to enjoy Apple Music lossless through 3.5mm. 🤣
So, your reply doesn't back up the other person's response either then. Nothing confirms that the AirPod Max's can will play lower quality lossless over it's cable, which is the point we're talking about.Virtually every decent review website on launch made it clear that the Max’s could not receive HR music unlike the Sony, Bose and Sennheiser units they were being compared to (all of which can use a 3.5mm Jack to listen to music even with flat batteries)
Aim higher, this is Apple we're talking about. 😁waiting apple to drop a lossless cable for airpods max at $99 🤪
Not to disappoint you further, but any €100 pair of wired headphones would likely equal or surpass anything over BT, so even had you been able to get HR music with your AirPods Max, it would still have been an expensive solution. However you chose them for their convenience, their looks, their noise cancelling (the brand / ecosystem?) and all of that is the same today as they were the day you bought them.I'm so disappointed. Was extremely excited about this news and can't believe that now AirPods Max won't be able to support it wired. I understand that is not possible by BT, but not even wired is such a disappointment after expending 600€ just 6 months ago on them.
And this will be the same thing with the Apple headphones. The starting source is better, so the end result is better. When I listen to Tidal/Qubuz on my homepods or Max, it sounds better than Apple Music.It works in that you hear high quality music, but you’re not hearing it at its full resolution.
First day at Macrumors, I see. Welcome!There shouldn't be a single reason to complain.
I'm still just trying to figure out if I will be able to play lossless from my apple TV through my audio system? From what I'm reading I need to purchase a converter for this?? Or is that just for the Hi-Res Lossless option? Will the lossless option be in the Apple TV settings?