Spotify will be in the exact same situation. The source isn’t the issue
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AirPods, AirPods Max and AirPods Pro Don't Support Apple Music Lossless Audio
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Do you realise that the vast majority of people cannot tell the difference between 320kbps mp3 and hi-res audio?
By all means, go wild with the haha and disagree emojis, but I’d love to treat you to a blind test where you have to distinguish the two with your current audio equipment, whatever that is.
By all means, go wild with the haha and disagree emojis, but I’d love to treat you to a blind test where you have to distinguish the two with your current audio equipment, whatever that is.
I have B&W PX via BT AptX that run at 24bit 48kHz but the brand new AirPods Max don't. What a joke. Apple needs to adopt AptX already or develop a codec that can run 24bit 48kHz or higher. This is nonsense. I can understand the AirPods Pro and AirPods not supporting.
You haven't shown anything so far. And as far as arrogant CEO's you have zero idea how they are in the boardroom.
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Agreed, HiRes isn't aimed at majority of people, but when you sell a $550 headphone that doesn't support HiRes when almost everyone else in this price range does you just look like an ass.
The website says “You can listen to lossless audio using the latest Apple Music app on an iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple TV”. No mention of Windows 😬
It’s not an apple problem, it’s a technology problem. The only way bluetooth headphones can stream music is to compress it. If it makes you feel better, you can turn on lossless in settings and the music will still play on your bluetooth headphones without a problem, but you won’t be listening to it in 24 hit 192kHz, because it’s literally impossible. Because the technology doesn’t exist.
And apple is making this a free upgrade, so I don’t see where greed factors in.
APPLE: This June 2021 we're unveiling Apple TV++*. It's super duper high quality video and audio with no extra charge to your existing Apple TV+ subscription.
*no versions of Apple TV will support this. I dunno, maybe try it on Nvidia Shield TV or something. Seriously did you really expect it to work on our products? Are you dumb?
*no versions of Apple TV will support this. I dunno, maybe try it on Nvidia Shield TV or something. Seriously did you really expect it to work on our products? Are you dumb?
Man, that's rough. For only $350 more than the AirPods Max, you can have the base model MacBook Air at Costco with a two year manufacturer's warranty, four if you have the Citi card.
iPhone is able to serve Airplay2 or wireless CarPlay using wifi for hours. There are portable Airplay devices available.
I'd say it would be possible to design headphones if they can be as heavy as AirPods Max with enough battery life for wireless lossless HD audio (wi-fi) support.
Really now? Please shows us a list of $550 wireless headphones from almost everyone else that supports lossless? I'll happily wait.
Plus still get dolby atmos with the headphones! Spatial audio! 🤘🏻 Plus it's at no extra cost!!
I'm not sure if this has been addressed, but I think I can answer some of the questions. Unless there's been revolutionary breakthrough in the last month, I'm almost certain that Bluetooth will not support genuine lossless audio (definitely not 96/24 or 192/24). Your headphones have to be hard-wired into your device. Also -as of today, iPhones will not support high-res audio files at all unless you use Apple's 4k photo adapter, (Lightning to USB), and then connect a portable DAC with a headphone jack on the other end. (Dragonfly makes one of those products, which I use, in addition to the adapter. It looks like a USB thumb drive). I have collected high-res files over the years, and use a dedicated iPhone as a high-res music player through the VOX app with the adapter and DAC mentioned above. It sounds absolutely phenomenal, but it's not cheap (adapter, roughly $35, DAC, roughly $200 and up). Not sure if the new announcement from Apple will somehow eliminate the iPhone hardware issue, BUT it comes as great news content-wise. Excited to see what might be available in the "High-Res Lossless" catalog with the subscription. P.S. You can play high-res files out of a MacBook - even 5.1 192/24 files. But, you have to use the HDMI output, and plug the HDMI into a receiver or other device that has a DAC which can read those files. I use the VOX app to play that 5.1 content - and the 2.0 high-res content I currently have. Not sure how it would work playing those files with Apple Music on a MacBook, but I'm sure there are settings that will allow you to adjust the output if needed.
The greed will come with a new BT device. Sony also managed to offer LDAC over BT.
Apple could at least increase the bitrate through a firmware update, but they wont.
They will probably offer an Airpod Pro Max with higher bitrate.
Did you drop your AirPods Max in the toilet because you’re so angry?