AirPods and Apple Watch Called 'Underpriced' to Bring New Users Into Apple Ecosystem

i played with a set, but never tried them extensively.

I am not claiming that volume is a problem.

just that the "workaround" solution to the complaint of a problem wasn't as logically sound as believed.

IF the claim that the audio controls don't work for voice calls is true, than it's likely software, and could be fixable via software fix. But having to go back to the phone in order to change the volume defeats the purpose of going wireless in the first place.

But now you're assuming the point of going wireless is to not have to use the phone.

Anyway, in addition to using AirPods for 3 months, I used a moto hint for a year. For whatever reason, volume was never an issue. Just seems like another thing for people to complain about.
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Underpriced? Ya gotta be kidding me. Under delivered is more like it. A 6 week wait? Please, you can't justify that.

Hmm, maybe if they were priced higher, the demand would be lower and shipping times would be shorter. But then that would lend credence to the suggestion that they're underpriced.
 
But now you're assuming the point of going wireless is to not have to use the phone.

Anyway, in addition to using AirPods for 3 months, I used a moto hint for a year. For whatever reason, volume was never an issue. Just seems like another thing for people to complain about.
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No, I made a conclusion.

I Concluded, and I don't think unfairly that for many people one of the predominant benefits of going wireless is to remove the need to have to go directly to the handset for many of the audio function. Hence, Apple's inclusion of touch interface for manipulation of some audio functions. This function includes volume control for music.

Also Judging from the users question about the potential issue that he could not change the volume in a call, also implied that that was a particular reason for his/her purchase of the wireless device, by stating that as a potential problem.

whether or not it's a legitimate problem. Maybe a bug in a unit or two. maybe a problem with his phone. could be anythign. All i'm pointing out, that the problem that was identified and asked about, did not receive a satisfactory response for the criteria set forth.

as for truth behind the volume problem, that I am not asking about. maybe he's just going deaf :p
 
I agree with the AirPods being under priced. I tried finding alternatives out there but all the others were not the same or they were nearly twice the cost.

The ease of use and how the units seamlessly transition from single earbud stereo to dual and back again is impressive even on Android phones.

Now if only they offered matte black ones and could solve my initial connection issues. They sometimes don't pair right away to my iPhone 6s plus. I have to go into Bluetooth settings and select them manually at times.

The watch I could care less about honestly.
 
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in my country samsung s3 around 315 dollar not 345 dollar while apple series 2 383 us dollar. So i'm pretty weird this advertisement saying apple much cheaper.
 
When the first HD iPod came out it was competitive to Creative Labs HD music player. What was it. Like $499? Others were higher.
 
No, I made a conclusion.

I Concluded, and I don't think unfairly that for many people one of the predominant benefits of going wireless is to remove the need to have to go directly to the handset for many of the audio function. Hence, Apple's inclusion of touch interface for manipulation of some audio functions. This function includes volume control for music.

Also Judging from the users question about the potential issue that he could not change the volume in a call, also implied that that was a particular reason for his/her purchase of the wireless device, by stating that as a potential problem.

whether or not it's a legitimate problem. Maybe a bug in a unit or two. maybe a problem with his phone. could be anythign. All i'm pointing out, that the problem that was identified and asked about, did not receive a satisfactory response for the criteria set forth.

as for truth behind the volume problem, that I am not asking about. maybe he's just going deaf :p

I disagree. Not having to go to the device when using AirPods is not one of the main reasons for going wireless. Would be interesting to see feedback from actual users though.

Also, myself, I end up quickly adjusting volume via the watch or with Siri as needed. But even with using AirPods for several hours per day, volume has never been an issue. If it was, I don't think we'd see the sales we do now.

Having said that, would volume control on the AirPods themselves be nice? Of course. But along with people who are quick to complain, no one ever offers a solution. They're small, the surface area is quite small, really not feasible to have a volume control from tapping or swiping on the airpods themselves.
 
I was thinking of getting a pair as the EarPods fit me well. But, you cannot adjust the volume during a phone call. If there was any listening situation that require adjustments to the volume, a phone conversation would be it.

Wireless head phones for a fraction of the price of the AirPods can adjust the volume during a phone call.

What totally wireless in ear headphones are a fraction of the price?
There are a crap load of wireless headphones that have volume control. A simple search on Amazon would find them. As for totally wireless, there are plenty of headsets that control volume too.

Not to be that guy, but what's wrong with using your volume controls on your phone?

Sure, you can. There are a couple of volume adjustment buttons on the left edge of the iPhone.

There is nothing wrong with using the buttons on the phone. But, if my phone is in a bag/purse/pocket, if I am driving, or if my hands are messy, being able to answer a phone call and adjust the volume right from the headset would be much more convenient. That is what I do now with my EarPods.

Also, Apple advertises the AirPods on their own website that the the user can answer a phone call and adjust the volume without touching the phone. What they don't say is that you cannot do those things together.

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I disagree. Not having to go to the device when using AirPods is not one of the main reasons for going wireless. Would be interesting to see feedback from actual users though.

Also, myself, I end up quickly adjusting volume via the watch or with Siri as needed. But even with using AirPods for several hours per day, volume has never been an issue. If it was, I don't think we'd see the sales we do now.

Having said that, would volume control on the AirPods themselves be nice? Of course. But along with people who are quick to complain, no one ever offers a solution. They're small, the surface area is quite small, really not feasible to have a volume control from tapping or swiping on the airpods themselves.

I wouldn't call what was recommended a solution. I would call it a work around, one that lessens some of the benefits of going wireless.

A solution, none of us here can truly offer. The SOLUTION to the issue (if it exists), is that it's likely a software bug, or something that can be added by software later. So Apple being informed is a good thing, so that, if it turns out to be hardware, can be fixed properly and added in v2.0. Or that in the next round of updates to iOS would be even better

so the "WOrk around" provided is just counter productive, and in the end reads very firmly as the direction is simply "you're using it wrong"
 
wow, is this an Ad for Apple?

Ok.. let's compare.. The Dash is waterproof, has a internal player, AND has 4 gigs over memory. SO guess what, it's more expensive but has more features!

It's like comparing a lower class Andriod device to an Iphone just based on price.... Macrumors should re-write this article comparing features.

Not their best article that's for sure!
 
And then Apple chased away any potential new customers (with the AirPods) because they're impossible to get. My local store is showing May availability now. Wonder how long they're planning to dangle that carrot before people give up and go buy a more expensive option simply because they can walk in to BestBuy today and get what they want.
 
wow, is this an Ad for Apple?

Ok.. let's compare.. The Dash is waterproof, has a internal player, AND has 4 gigs over memory. SO guess what, it's more expensive but has more features!

It's like comparing a lower class Andriod device to an Iphone just based on price.... Macrumors should re-write this article comparing features.

Not their best article that's for sure!

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-true-wireless-headphones/

Wirecutter recently did a review of the various wireless headphones out in the market. Here's what they had to say.

Bragi The Dash: So cool looking, so many neat features, and so frustrating to use. Connection-issue nightmares: The left earbud kept disconnecting and refusing to re-pair. And the signal dropped after I spent only 15 minutes on a treadmill with the phone sitting 1 foot in front of me at eye level.

If your headphones can't even stay connected for any period of time, I think that pretty much negates any other advantages it may have.

There are a crap load of wireless headphones that have volume control. A simple search on Amazon would find them. As for totally wireless, there are plenty of headsets that control volume too.
You mean something like this?
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About that cellullar chip, I would never ever strap a device to my body while it is capable of emitting and receiving cancerdevelopping waves trough my body. I mean, would you like the idea of heaving a watch on your wrist communicating 24/7 with the LTE-network? Those are extremely powerfull waves which have been proven to damage living material. Having your phone half the day in your pocket is something different than having it all day long in direct contact to your skin. If they manage to get the protective shielding right I'd be ok with that. But a Samsung Galaxy Gear S2 for example is in my opinion a dangerous device, Bluetooth is compared by LTE unharmfull, about 1/1000 of the destructive radiation, comparable to the bad radiation you receive from the sun when walking outside. Having an independant watch would be nice, but health is far more important I think.

I find people who make this claim have no problem keeping a similar device that is eight times larger next to their crotch.
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in my country samsung s3 around 315 dollar not 345 dollar while apple series 2 383 us dollar. So i'm pretty weird this advertisement saying apple much cheaper.

I'm in the US and I got my S3 frontier for $199.
 
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-true-wireless-headphones/

Wirecutter recently did a review of the various wireless headphones out in the market. Here's what they had to say.



If your headphones can't even stay connected for any period of time, I think that pretty much negates any other advantages it may have.


You mean something like this?
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It looks like it would take a while to memorize all of that. It doesn't look simple to me.
 
I'm in the US and I got my S3 frontier for $199.
dam pretty cheap.. i should order s3 from us instead. but shipping cost.Where to order yeah.. Apple watch not attractive at all.. :(..
 
I was thinking of getting a pair as the EarPods fit me well. But, you cannot adjust the volume during a phone call. If there was any listening situation that require adjustments to the volume, a phone conversation would be it.

Wireless head phones for a fraction of the price of the AirPods can adjust the volume during a phone call.
I thought the lack of volume control during a phone calll would've been a big deal for me but it really hasn't. If I need volume control during a call i find its no more than one adjustment per call on average. I'll just hit the keys on the phone, one small sacrifice for true wireless EarPods. The headphones are great man, get yourself a pair. They carry more bass than the standard EarPods, they sound pretty good, well balanced.
 
dam pretty cheap.. i should order s3 from us instead. but shipping cost.Where to order yeah.. Apple watch not attractive at all.. :(..

It's the carrier model. The only reason I did it was because changing my plan ended up being cheaper each month than sticking with what I had.
 
iPod Shuffle.
Which one? The first generation Shuffle was considered cheap but even there according to various estimates I could find on the web App,e had 35-40% profit margins. Can't imagine it was worse for later models. Apple literally never underprices their hardware even in situations when it might be a good idea to get market share like with Apple TV.
 
You know what would be better than the AirPods being "underpriced"? That they were actually available to purchase. Right now they are still 6 weeks out for delivery. Whatever the reason, it is a bit ridiculous that 3 months after released they are still so hard or difficult to mass produce. Either that or apple is artificially inflating demand by restricting the offer.
I agree. I actually wanted to buy some today. I don't really need them, but thought I'd give them a shot since I don't love my current Beats Bluetooth phones. Saw the six week wait and passed. Sale lost.
 
I think you could make the case that they are competitively priced (especially compared to much of Apple's product line), but certainly not underpriced.

The only reason Apple took of was because of these competitive prices. Starting with iPhone for $200 (on contract). Then iPad for a surprising $500 (which many were speculating it would be >$1,000). And now the Apple watch and AirPods. Not underpriced. Not cheap. But affordable luxury at competitive pricing.
 
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