I wonder how much of the sold out is from scalpers as the fleabay price for the blues is now hovering around $900!
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AirPods Max Market Segment Too Niche to Boost Sales, Say Apple Suppliers
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Ok, if iPads are not a comparison for your liking, what about Apple Watches? Good enough comparison?
Apple Watches are also wearables, but they're not "fashion statement". People (including myself) are using them for the functions and the convenience.
Only people that I've seen who buy Apple Products as fashion statements have been my friends' teenage kids who want to impress other kids at school.
That's hardly a "market".
No they're not, but again half price and with included headphone jack, included hardshell, plastic is why they weigh less. More battery life too. Touch panel does suck, and so does switching devices. But I also like being able to use them with my Switch, use them on plane infotainment system, use them on a work Desktop PC without Bluetooth, etc. Not sure the ANC will be better when Airpod Pros have still been said to be worse than the Sony comparables.
We have no idea how much stock they had. And bots could have bought them. They seem to be buying all the PS5s.
Iconic designs don't need a logo to be recognized. The original iPod only had a logo on the back, and it was subtle as well. But anyone seeing the front immediately knew it was an iPod.
These things have a sufficiently distinct look that will be recognizable by most of the general public. Can that be said about the Sonys, Beats, and Boses? Probably not, hence the need for a huge logo so that everyone knows what brand they are.
Don't be fooled by the headphones alone, these are essential for anything AR and VR in the future. Especially the sound that is tracking head movement, this product is an early spinoff from ongoing sound and VR R&D.
Go read a book on consumer habits and marketing instead of pulling stuff like that out of your you know where.
We live in a world primarily concerned with success and appearing successful(healthy, wealthy, attractive, “cool”).
Don’t tell me that your average consumer is deeply concerned and knowledgeable on the quality of products in general.
Or, they realize that it’s a smaller market and prepared their supply chain appropriately so there wouldn’t be too much unsold stock on hand.
same story, different perspective. I feel like they may have had too many HomePods on hand at launch and learned a lesson.
I’m a niche use case. What if Apple consumers are niche? Then its big heavy embarrassing headphones sell like iPhones.
When I do need ANC it can’t disrupt my head space in claustrophobic heart beat silence. Most time transparency is necessary and desired use-case. Headphones must interchangeably “just work” with iPhone, iPad, Mac mini, TV and car play.
Then I see no obstacle to a headphone becoming a big revenue builder like iPhone.
When I do need ANC it can’t disrupt my head space in claustrophobic heart beat silence. Most time transparency is necessary and desired use-case. Headphones must interchangeably “just work” with iPhone, iPad, Mac mini, TV and car play.
Then I see no obstacle to a headphone becoming a big revenue builder like iPhone.
You call that hazardous, I call that working perfectly as designed.
I would love to get these, but I can't afford them. Rather, I can afford them but would never pay this price, especially considering you can buy equally good (albeit not as styling IMO) competitors' headphones for half Apple's going rate.
Exactly. Both the product names and designs of most other brands are too generic and barely memorable.
To a lot of people, including myself, the original airpods are still somewhat ugly. But I can instantly tell them apart from other brands and even most copycat products simply because I’ve seen the AirPods when commuting for the last 2-3 years.
LOL
You must be one of those teenagers who uses parents' money to buy Apple products as "fashion statement".
I really wonder where you live if your entire world is concerned with success and appearing successful (wealthy, attractive, "cool").
If you had traveled anywhere outside your world you'd see that people have lives to live and they spend money consciously. Don't worry though, you can do that when you grow up.
I would imagine that they are talking in regards to unit sales and market share.
I love my upgrade from the 11 Pro to the 12 Mini. Battery life isn’t bad at all, it’s just that reviewers have grown accustomed to the large batteries in gigantic phones.
I hope apple continues to build small, pro-level phones.
That's what I'm saying, we can't know the demand from the current situation because we don't know how many were for sale, how many were in production, and how many are now ordered.
Even if they did I don't care for those peoples. These look great.
Makes me think ... why didn't Apple integrate the AirPods Max into their FindMy network ... have them locked down if the owner reports them Lost/Stolen and locked to their iCloud account? That could potentially force less theft and more returns if stolen, don't you (or anyone else) think?
Apple pricing always deserves a premium and seemingly every product has proved this to be true. I think this is the right price and they will sell like IHOP hotcakes (not McDonalds). Apple is good at creating demand. What seems to be niche will no longer be. I’ve never like headphones due to the heat and discomfort of wearing something that acts like a heat blanket around your ear and on your head. I’m intrigued by the breathable mesh. Also why didn’t anyone focus on the user interface before? No one wants to RTFM nor having to take anything off in order to interface with it. Apple’s digital crown will separate it from the pack.
I never could get myself to buy Airpods thinking they shouldn’t cost more than 30 bucks. I held out for a long time. What happened? I bought 2 sets (airpods v2 separated by several months) to alternate with when 1 runs out of battery and I can’t wait for a recharge (used for work and personal).
Early adopters always pay a little more, but the masses will buy when there’s a sale and/or get it from B&H to avoid the tax.
Just wait when the Airpods Pro Max come out at $749 in Space Gray, Silver, and Gold. Followed by a 4th color for v2.
Update: forgot to mention, I think I wouldn’t mind having one too. Maybe when I come off of unemployment 😢.
I never could get myself to buy Airpods thinking they shouldn’t cost more than 30 bucks. I held out for a long time. What happened? I bought 2 sets (airpods v2 separated by several months) to alternate with when 1 runs out of battery and I can’t wait for a recharge (used for work and personal).
Early adopters always pay a little more, but the masses will buy when there’s a sale and/or get it from B&H to avoid the tax.
Just wait when the Airpods Pro Max come out at $749 in Space Gray, Silver, and Gold. Followed by a 4th color for v2.
Update: forgot to mention, I think I wouldn’t mind having one too. Maybe when I come off of unemployment 😢.
But you know for sure that they didn't sell many because they didn't produce many?
Apple has a long history of creating and expanding market segments. Most of the time, they are very successful. Some times, they are only moderately successful. And very very seldom do they miss the mark.
Will the Airpods Max become an iPhone, iPod type success? Probably not. Will it become an Airpods, Apple Watch type of success? Probably. Will it become an iPod hifi type of success? Probably not.
We won't know until we start seeing these out in the wild. And depending on where you live/work/play, you may or may not see them at all.
I know that this is MacRumors and we all love dropping spicy hot-takes about anything and everything Apple. In a few months, we'll get a pretty good idea of what the truth really is.
I have to ask you then ... with Apple's iTunes and Apple Music streaming audio codec being AAC/SBC ... how are you able to enjoy better music quality on your Shure A50 and B&0 H95's if you're still using those as your source music catalog? Are iPhone's capable of a better audio codec over bluetooth or via Lightning port for sound out?
PS: https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/headphones/beoplay-h95?variant=beoplay-h95-black
The design looks so much like the Jabra 85h's and the internal speaker design under the ear cup looks as if Apple completely stole the entire idea/design from.
But at $1100 CAN ... like that video in the link I posted above ... going to need a sugar daddy to afford them lol.
We live in a World built on credit(loans, credit cards, payment plans, etc.). Exactly how are people spending consciously?
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Teenagers are not a market? Where on Earth are you pulling that from? They are just about the best demographic to appeal to because they have next to no responsibilities but are easily influencing by advertising and get money and gifts left and right from their hard working parents and relatives.
And the Apple Watch is most definitely also a fashion statement even if it also offers great functionality. I don’t get why you insist that the two have to be mutually exclusive?
Perhaps you should read the article again. There's absolutely no claim in that article that Apple doesn't sell headphones in the price range of JBL, Sony, and Bose. I know exactly what you're misinterpreting and it definitely doesn't say what you think it does.
Who's logic are you refuting? The article isn't suggesting Apple shouldn't sell the headphones. It's saying they're too niche of a product to boost sales... ironically, just like the Mac Pro you mentioned. Now, whether or not their prediction turns out to be true is a matter of debate. The fact they aren't suggesting what you're comment is implying isn't.
Sold out doesn't mean much without numbers. If I painted a painting and sold it I've sold out after selling one item. In Apples case I'm sure they were not expecting iPhone numbers at launch and have produced significantly less Airpod Max's. So selling out of let's say a million Airpod Max's is less impressive than selling out 100's of millions of IPhones.