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scottkle said:
Ok. So if I have this straight.

I buy an airport express and put it in my laptop bag. I go to a Hyatt or other hotel with wireless connectivity, but it doesn't work well in the room or something like that.

So I plug in an ethernet cable into it and plug it into the wall. And if the hotel has a wireless network .. just like that I'm on it?

If so, how would I access it? Do I then go under the airport menu icon in the menubar and select it or does something else happen? Any ideas?
You can't wirelessly extend a non-Apple wireless network, or one that you don't have total access to (i.e. the hotel wouldn't let you configure their base station to be extended by yours, which is what you'd need to do to use WDS). If the hotel has a wired network, you can make it wireless by plugging in an AirPort Express (or Extreme, or a LinkSys thing, or whatever). Nor can you use any Apple product (aside from AirPort cards) to give your non-wireless-equipped computer or other device access to a wireless network. There are third-party products that will let you do this, however.

I guess I'm not quite sure what you mean. Please clarify. :)

WM
 
SiliconAddict said:
Did anyone else just wet themselves? Its also functions as a repeater as well. It slices, it dices, it makes Julian fries, AND plays music! I just hope this is compatable with my Netgear 802.11G router.
It probably won't function as a repeater for your Netgear (see someone else's post about WDS as a "quasi-standard"). You'd have to connect them via Ethernet.
 
jkhanson said:
According to #5 on the bottom of this page . . .

http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/

. . . you can't use the AirportExpress to bridge with a third-party router. Maybe there is a workaround?

i think you are wrong there...

the exact words are
"AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express can extend the range only of an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express wireless network"

i take this to mean that it does now work with the original 802.11b basestation.

what would i know though? we'll see i guess.
 
Finiksa said:
Yup 17hr battery life, great for international flights, not to mention the battery is replaceable ;)

1 hour's worth of music per disc - great for listening to the same hour 17 times :p

Respect, though :)
 
d00d said:
Or, here's an idea, you plug both your AC adapter and the Airport Express into the wall. Other than saving a single plug, I don't see the point. Hell, get one of those mini strips you can get at Radio Shack and carry that with you. I just don't see the point. The Airport Express is portable enough that it doesn't matter that it's one more thing floating in your bag.

in my opinion, it does matter, because in some countries, where they have 3 pin power connector, the plug itself is not flush with the brick on it's size, thus creating an annoying bulge in any bag. to be honest, carrying around ANOTHER device, no matter how small is annoying at best.
 
frank5050 said:
Several things I wonder about:

1) Will you have to also buy the $39 cable kit to obtain the correct cable to use the optical digital audio out?
I guess not. I don't have any devices with that kind of input (just a Discman with the output), so I have no idea what the cables are like, but since it's a Sony standard connector I'd think you can get the cables fairly easily.
2) Is the wireless stream from your computer in MP3/AAC/ALC format or is it full-bandwidth PCM audio. This might make a difference in the stream playing without hiccups if your wireless signal strength is less than optimal or if you have much else happening on your network. (maybe a MP3/AAC > PCM converter is inside the Express base station?)
Macworld says it recompresses into Apple Lossless. So I guess that answers that question...
3) Can a laptop that doesn't contain the actual audio files control the stream via iTunes to the Express base station?
(i.e. - iMac with all audio files is upstairs, use an iBook in living room via iTunes sharing to control the music selections)
I'm pretty sure that yes, you can.

(Can't comment on the SoundBridge)

HTH
WM
 
andiwm2003 said:
I'm just wondering if one could connect a display via its usb and get wireless video? is 54mbps enough? would somebody bring the drivers needed?
I don't think such a thing as a USB display exists. Even if it did, the AP Express (or Extreme, for that matter) couldn't do anything with it. It's just a print server. Doesn't work with any other kinds of USB devices.

HTH
WM
 
toughboy said:
yet!!! but imagine.. imagine you hold your iPod syncing wirelessly and imagine yourself changing the playlist on your mac from your iPod wirelessly with this new baby... imagine.. :rolleyes:

eh... if the music is on your ipod already, why you still have to use the playlists on your computer is beyond me... the holy grail right now is to have a wifi ipod, with music that streams directly from your ipod to the stereo...
 
MacWorld Article on AirPort Express

http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/

I spent a little bit of time with Greg Joswiak, Apple's Vice President of Hardware Product Marketing, talking about how the new AirPort Express works, especially the new AirTunes audio features.


Essentially, AirTunes is a method of creating remote speakers for a copy of iTunes, and sending data to those remote speakers via a wireless network. That network can be formed by connecting an AirPort Express to another AirPort Express, to an AirPort Extreme Base Station, or even to a non-apple 802.11b or 802.11g access point.


When you select an AirPort Express device in the new pop-up menu at the bottom of the iTunes 4.6 interface, that device essentially replaces your Mac's speakers as the audio-output source for whatever you do in iTunes. At that point you can do anything you'd normally do in iTunes -- play music from your Library, from someone else's library, or from your iPod; play an Internet radio stream; even play an audiobook. The sound won't come out of your Mac -- it'll come out of the speakers attached to the AirPort Express.


For those wondering if AirPort Express supports MP3, AAC, or any other specific file formats, the answer is no. AirPort Express supports Apple's Lossless Compression technology -- and everything that your iTunes streams across the network to Airport Express is compressed using that technology.


iTunes does the heavy lifting. When iTunes plays back standard audio content (AAC, MP3, audiobooks, music streams), it decompresses those file formats and creates what's essentially a raw, uncompressed audio stream. That stream is compressed on the fly using Apple's Lossless Compression, encrypted, and sent to the AirPort Express. AirPort Express decrypts the stream, decodes it, and outputs it in either analog format (if you plug in a standard analog mini jack) or as a digital PCM stream (if you plug in a mini-sized optical cable, which you can get from most major cable suppliers or straight from Apple for $39).


If iTunes is playing back a digital multichannel file format like AC3 (Dolby Digital) or DTS, those bitstreams are wrapped in Apple's compression and encryption, and then decoded at the other end. In those cases, AirPort Express would end up streaming the raw AC3 or DTS stream via an optical cable to your home theater receiver for decoding.


This means that if you're currently listening to music on speakers attached to your Mac, AirPort Express doesn't change the Mac side of the experience at all: you're still using iTunes as your musical interface, and you've got to keep that Mac on and iTunes open in order to keep the music playing. (As opposed to a device like Slim Devices' Squeezebox, [4 mice, April 2004], which is operated by an infrared remote control and has its own display to show you what's playing and let you change what you're listening to.) You can also only play one thing at a time, and to only one set of speakers. But now those speakers can be just about anywhere.


Apple's not ruling out taking those sorts of approaches -- Joswiak himself agreed that some sort of remote-control device would be a cool addition to AirPort Express. But as Joswiak put it to me, this is a first step for Apple in getting iTunes music into another part of your life -- in this case, into places where there are no computers or iPods.
 
cmx08 said:
can this express b use as a router (AEBS).

So one can connect the modem to the express and not have to buy a wireless router.

I want to sell my router and use this as the router since I have all 11g at home.

no need for ethernet cable, besides I want to share my printer and only FM and tape stereo at home.
If all of your computers have 802.11b/g, and you don't have any Ethernet printers or anything, then yes. You just can't have any Ethernet devices besides your cable/DSL modem (unless you get a router to go between the modem and your other Ethernet devices, including the AP Express).

HTH
WM
 
bar italia said:
Regarding compatibility with XBox or PS2.

A post at Appleinsider claims that the Ethernet connection only goes one way -- which would mean that it can't be used with either console.

Can anyone confirm?

I don't know if the ethernet only goes one way... but i can understand why.

however, it shouldn't matter that the ethernet only goes one way, because once your are on the network, the incoming and outgoing data from the xbox will be wireless...
 
Finiksa said:
Yup 17hr battery life, great for international flights, not to mention the battery is replaceable ;)

all valid points... the battery life is dream. can't you get minidisc players now that play like 55 hours on a single triple-A battery?
 
dosage said:
A few questions I think several of us not-so-networking-literate would love to have answered:

1) Could I hook my scanner, printer, or other USB devices into a 4-port hub and plug it into it?
No. One printer is all you can do. Well, maybe you can do more than one...I have a vague notion that there was something on MacOSXHints once....But no scanners or digital cameras or anything like that.
2) Can I ditch my Airport Extreme base and just use this?
Depends on which features of the AEBS you're using. If you're using only one Ethernet port on the AEBS and you're not using the modem, then yes (unless you have a bunch of users or need to use the Management Tools or WPA Enterprise, all of which are unlikely since you said you're not very networking-literate).
3) Will the range be as good?
I think so, as long as you put them in the same place. That might require plugging the AP Express into an extension cord and setting it on something.

HTH
WM
 
AliensAreFuzzy said:
I have two questions about this.
1) If I have my desktop with my iTunes library, but it's not connected wirelessly to my network. However, I do have a wireless router. Would I be able to transmit my music to the Express?
Yes, if the desktop is connected (via Ethernet) to the wireless router.
2) Could this be used as a wireless bridge. (i.e. connect a computer in my basement with just a wired card without running cat5 cable down there.)
No.

HTH
WM
 
Finiksa said:
It doesn't have a proximity sensor, when you lose the Bluetooth connection iTunes will stop (if you have it set). Considering Bluetooth range is 10 meters that's pretty far to roam.

I can go anywhere in my house and garden (and I do) without losing the connection. Salling Clicker is great for controlling iTunes from the back garden during a party.

what are you talking about? no proximity sensor??? that is one of main features!!! do you even know what a proximity sensor is?? it is exactly what you said... so you are contradicting yourself.

also, salling clicker is not designed for use "around the house", it is designed to be used in a single room...


features.tiff


10 meters is not a great distance. it's like, what? 33 feet... that is like just bigger than an average room. my house is over 10,000 square feet, with 12 acre gardens... how do you expect salling clicker to do it's job? Bluetooth in general is not designed for this purpose.

i know you state that YOU can go anywhere... but for most normal sized houses, salling clicker is out of the question.
 
whenpaulsparks said:
the USB printing only works with a "compatible printer"... does that mean any printer that works with a mac, or what? i have an HP OfficeJet 6110. i wouldnt be disappointed if i can't scan over the network, but i would be if i can't print, when it works fine with Mac OS X. has anyone found a list of compatible printers yet?
Well, the official (and out-of-date, IIRC) list is here. There are some hints on MacOSXHints about getting "unsupported" printers to work using Gimp-Print drivers and CUPS ones that HP provides for use with Linux. Do a search there, I guess.

FWIW
WM
 
chipcarterdc said:
Please excuse the ignorant question (I haven't set up a home network yet): This acts as a base station as well, right? I.e., when I get my DSL or cable connection at home, I plug this Airport Express into the DSL/Cable modem jack and the stereo (assuming they're phsyically close enough) and the Airport Express sends out a wireless signal? In other words, I don't need this AND an Airport Extreme base station, right?
Right.

One other question: is there a piece of hardware that goes between the wall jack for DSL or Cable connection and the Airport (Express/Extreme)? What I'm asking is: does the Airport station (of whatever flavor) plug directly into the wall jack, or is there an intervening piece of hardware (like a modem?).
Well, yes, there's your DSL or cable modem. You implied that you understood that part up above there...like if you have DSL, you connect your DSL modem to your phone jack. The DSL modem has an Ethernet port on it that you then connect to the base station's Ethernet port (whether it's Express, Extreme, or third-party).

WM
 
gola said:
Anybody know if the airtunes streaming works with only the older airport cards (not extreme g speed, but b)? Too slow for music streaming?
It sounds like it should work with 802.11b speeds just fine. I suppose you might have to make sure your multicast rate is at least 2 Mbps (the default), but since they're apparently compressing to Apple Lossless (about 700-800 Kbits/sec, IIRC), even 1 Mbps should be OK.

Now, that's for stereo. If this really does work with multichannel audio, I imagine you might start to hit the limit at longer ranges and/or lower multicast rates.

WM
 
chipcarterdc said:
Assuming that I understand this correctly, my plan is to have one Airport Express acting as the primary base station, connected to the stereo in the basement. And a second Airport Express upstairs on the third floor, connected to the stereo in the bedroom and also extending the signal sent from the one in the basement (I'm assuming that the Airport signal will not travel all the way upstairs, so even without my stereo machinations, I'd need something to get a signal on that floor).
Sounds good to me.

WM
 
Brian Hickman said:
OK...I am trying to figure this thing out...

Does this thing do NAT? If not, and your provider only allows one IP address per hi-speed internet account, then how do you support 10 simultaneous internet connections?
Right. It must be able to do NAT, or only a very few people would be able to use it with more than one computer.

WM
 
iSpud said:
I just bought an airport extreme too... :(

Should I have waited?

Actually... if you have a fairly large house you could have the airport extreme at one end and the Airport express at the other end and have a nice wireless bridge going thruought the household...

At least thats what im doing
 
ya know.....

I am willing to bet that:

A, this is to wet our apetites for WWDC becuase Airport PRO will be announced, with video or something.

B, its a set up for that iBox thing.

It was said before that using the USB wireless remotes is perfect, I have one and can control iTunes from across the house. Also, and this is speculation, what about a module like the NaviPod but contols iTunes over BlueTooth from an iPod, maybe Apple let that one out to spur even more new products for the iPod. It hasn't been said but i think one of the things that make the iPod so successful is the amount of stuff companies are pumping out for them.

Just my 2 cents :eek:
 
Maclicious said:
So, could I use this to connect my XBOX to the internet without unplugging my airport basestation and running an ethernet cable through the whole house, as I currently am forced to do?
No.
bar italia said:
Also, echoing other people's questions -- can you use this to get an XBox/PS2 online?
No.
sinisterdesign said:
i can now connect my Tivo via the ethernet connection
No.

You guys need third-party products to do that stuff. They exist, although I guess they don't work as well as they should.

The big confusion here is that AirPort Extreme and Express allow you to wirelessly extend a wireless network. This is called WDS. But when you do that, the Ethernet ports on the remote base station(s) are disabled. So you can't, at least with Apple products, go Internet ---> base station ---> wireless network ---> another base station ---> Ethernet cable ---> TiVo/whatever. Well, I guess you could use a Mac with Internet Sharing turned on, but that would be expensive and a major drag.

WM
 
rdowns said:
For those wondering if AirPort Express supports MP3, AAC, or any other specific file formats, the answer is no. s.

? I assume your just talking about the technology, your not saying you can't paly any music in your iTunes library to these remote speakers via AExpBS?
 
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