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Powerbook G5 said:
But if you try connected an Xbox into the WAN port, then how the heck are you supposed to connect your DSL/Cable/LAN into the Airport Express to use it for the internet?
Don't connect an Xbox to the Ethernet port. It won't work. That's what I've been saying the whole time, I'm pretty sure.

And that's true with the AirPort Extreme base stations too.
 
bb0ys said:
Airport Express has a USB port. Who says that a 3rd party can't/won't develop a USB device for the APExpress with remote control and software on the computer. Or how about a USB set-top box with a small display. It shows what iTunes is playing and has a few buttons for controlling playback. Perhaps an IR remote control is an extra. You could control quite a lot more than iTunes. The USB port gives a lot of possibilities, just like the dock connector on the iPod provided the possibility of many 3rd party devices.
The USB port won't work with anything besides printers. I think there's a slim possibility that Apple could provide more functionality in a firmware upgrade, but don't get your hopes up...
 
WM. said:
Don't connect an Xbox to the Ethernet port. It won't work. That's what I've been saying the whole time, I'm pretty sure.

And that's true with the AirPort Extreme base stations too.
I know it won't work, that's what I have been saying even though some people seem to think that magically the WAN port will work and somehow this thing will just happen to receive data without your modem attached.
 
Powerbook G5 said:
No, you can't. Does anyone not read the Apple hardware page on Airport Express or ever look at the pictures of it? There are *no* LAN ports. None. NO LAN PORTS. This has been said how many times but people keep saying you can hook random things into it as if it did. If you want to use this device, you must have a wireless ready Mac or PC. It's that simple.
Who are you replying to?
 
a_iver said:
I hate to open a can of worms here because I don't know enough about networking, but could you also use an Airport Express as an Airport card? Maybe plug it in with Ethernet cable to your computer and transmit the signal that way?
Nope. Can't do it. And the can's already open. Look for all the posts about Xboxes and PS2's. :)
 
iChan said:
so far, i know for a fact that Airtunes is only compatible with iTunes... but it would be silly if apples didn't implement it OS-wide for Tiger.

you are right though, it is a mistake...

Apple probably wouldn't want a 'route all sound through the Airport Express' solution - since you wouldn't want system beeps, speech synthesis reading out alert text etc. blaring out from your stereo.

If anything, they might expose an API (in Tiger, or independently) to stream lossless audio to the Air'press; so 3rd party developers can add this functionality.
 
Powerbook G5 said:
What you said about running an ethernet cable from your computer to the Airport Express. That's just nonsense.
Nope. You're wrong on this one, man.
 
Powerbook G5 said:
I know it won't work, that's what I have been saying even though some people seem to think that magically the WAN port will work and somehow this thing will just happen to receive data without your modem attached.
OK. It sure seemed like you were disagreeing with me on that one, considering that you quoted my entire post, made no references to any other post, and started your reply with "but". See post #405.
 
Powerbook G5 said:
No, you can't. Does anyone not read the Apple hardware page on Airport Express or ever look at the pictures of it? There are *no* LAN ports. None. NO LAN PORTS. This has been said how many times but people keep saying you can hook random things into it as if it did. If you want to use this device, you must have a wireless ready Mac or PC. It's that simple.
Ah, good, you added a quote. Thanks.

Anyway, the audio hardware doesn't know whether the audio stream is coming over AirPort or Ethernet. It just doesn't know. So it'll work no matter where your iTunes-equipped computer is.

What won't work is to give anything access to an existing wireless network via the AP Express. That can be done, BUT not with any Apple product. You need a third-party product. I know you know this part; I'm just clarifying for everyone else.

WM
 
Powerbook G5 said:
No, you can't. Does anyone not read the Apple hardware page on Airport Express or ever look at the pictures of it? There are *no* LAN ports. None. NO LAN PORTS. This has been said how many times but people keep saying you can hook random things into it as if it did. If you want to use this device, you must have a wireless ready Mac or PC. It's that simple.

An Ethernet port is an ethernet port, it can be used to connect to a DSL modem or a hub/switch just as easily.

http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/specs.html

And look at the picture at the top ;)
 
whooleytoo said:
An Ethernet port is an ethernet port, it can be used to connect to a DSL modem or a hub/switch just as easily.

http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/specs.html

And look at the picture at the top ;)

So explain to me how it is going to work? You need to plug your modem into Airport Express in order for it to work. How is that going to happen if you stick your Xbox's ethernet into the port?
 
PlaceofDis said:
this doesnt seem to be a replacement for the Airport Extreme BaseStation, but instead it is just an addition to it, i thought it kind of odd that apple would release a BS that is cheaper, has most of the same features, and some new ones, than the standard basestation. so what we have to figure out is if that is a wan port or a lan port on the Airport Express,
It's both, depending on whether you have the DHCP server turned on for the Ethernet port (among other things).
and to me it looks as if it is indeed just a lan port, thus this CANNOT be used for wireless acess by itself,
Yes it can, but only if you don't have any computers (or other devices) that you want to connect via Ethernet. If all you have is wireless-equipped computers, it'll work fine.

HTH
WM
 
re: optical out

thanks guys... now its time to search for a good DAC. so-long USB soundcard.
 
Powerbook G5 said:
No, you can't. Does anyone not read the Apple hardware page on Airport Express or ever look at the pictures of it? There are *no* LAN ports. None. NO LAN PORTS. This has been said how many times but people keep saying you can hook random things into it as if it did. If you want to use this device, you must have a wireless ready Mac or PC. It's that simple.

According to the pictures the RJ-45 port is
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
Intelligent port for connecting to DSL or Cable modems or a local network
Now I may not have a Master's Degree in Computer Science, but isn't "local network" then same thing as LAN and wouldn't that make this a "LAN port"?
 
Powerbook G5 said:
So explain to me how it is going to work? You need to plug your modem into Airport Express in order for it to work. How is that going to happen if you stick your Xbox's ethernet into the port?

I think what he wants to do, is to plug the XBox into the AirportExtreme and try to connect to his already existing wireless network.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
According to the pictures the RJ-45 port is
Now I may not have a Master's Degree in Computer Science, but isn't "local network" then same thing as LAN and wouldn't that make this a "LAN port"?

According to the webpage, you setup Airport wireless as such:

Cable modem/DSL/LAN>Port on Airport Express>Wireless signal to computer. If you connect an Xbox>Airport Express, then there is no Internet connection going from the the Airport Express to the Xbox since that port is being used by the XBox itself.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
I think what he wants to do, is to plug the XBox into the AirportExtreme and try to connect to his already existing wireless network.

Well Airport Extreme is different than Airport Express. He said Express, not Extreme. Extreme is different.
 
whooleytoo said:
An Ethernet port is an ethernet port, it can be used to connect to a DSL modem or a hub/switch just as easily.
Yes.
Powerbook G5 said:
So explain to me how it is going to work? You need to plug your modem into Airport Express in order for it to work. How is that going to happen if you stick your Xbox's ethernet into the port?
It won't.

Where did the Xbox come from?
 
Powerbook G5 said:
Then explain it to me. How will you hook Airport Express to an iMac with an Ethernet cable?
You plug one end of the cable into the iMac, and the other end into the AP Express. You can now stream music from the iMac to the AP Express. You CAN'T do much else with your little network, like get on the Internet. But it will work for the music streaming part.

If you want to get on the Net, you can get a hub/switch and a router. Connect the switch to the three other items. You can now get on the Internet with the iMac, and continue to stream music to the AP Express, and if you set up the AP Express properly, if you get a wireless-equipped computer you can surf the Internet wirelessly through the AP Express.
 
WM. said:
Yes.

It won't.

Where did the Xbox come from?

From everyone saying that you can connect one to it. But going on what you said, how can you connect a non wireless iMac to Airport Express? I don't see it working since it is the exact same principle.
 
After reading Apple's own documentation on the Airport Express web page, I also thought that you could not use the Ethernet port on the device as a LAN port, only a WAN port.

HOWEVER, in an article on MacWorld with Greg Joswiak, it was explained that there IS an exception to this rule that will work fine: When using the Airport Express as a wireless bridge.

So let's say you ALREADY have an Airport Extreme or Airport Express that you're using as the router on your network. With a SECOND Airport Express plugged in elsewhere in your home, it communicates with the FIRST Airport Extreme/Express in order to get it's net access. Since that then leaves the Ethernet port unused, you CAN plug in a computer, or a video game system, or even a hub/switch that will properly get Internet access from the primary base station via the wireless connection on the SECOND Airport Express. But again...this only works when you have TWO routers, not just one.

However, since the Apple web site doesn't explain that clearly, it's completely understandable that you would not expect that to work. Hopefully once these are in people's hands, we can try out all sorts of combos and report on which ones really do work in REALITY, not just in theory though. :)
 
pjkelnhofer said:
I think what he wants to do, is to plug the XBox into the AirportExtreme and try to connect to his already existing wireless network.
Definitely can't do that.
 
Powerbook G5 said:
According to the webpage, you setup Airport wireless as such:

Cable modem/DSL/LAN>Port on Airport Express>Wireless signal to computer. If you connect an Xbox>Airport Express, then there is no Internet connection going from the the Airport Express to the Xbox since that port is being used by the XBox itself.
DING DING DING!!!! Isn't that what \ I'm saying too???

I never said you could do anything with an Xbox...
 
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