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You seem to choose your devices based on price, which is fine, but the time and hassle that keeping an Apple environment saves me is worth it to me.

Not always the case. I have Apple products that are more expensive than their counterparts but I choose them for the Apple ecosystem and the better experience. Airport, Apple TV, iPhones etc. But it appears the ecosystem is shrinking with less innovative macs, less airport/wireless development, etc.
 
That's hard to believe.

You can't even configure it from a Windows PC which makes up 90% of PCs.

AirPort Utility for Windows which hasn't been updated for years and is incompatible with the more recent models.
Odd I just used windows version on the newest available router after trying to establish device time limits annihilated my network and router.
 
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I don’t know why I’m optimistic but they just have to be cooking something up (not a pun at all). No Mac Pro/Mini, no more Cinema Display, no more Time Capsle or Airport, like they have to be working of something new and great. Right?
 
Surely they won't abandon Time Capsule!!!!??? It's possibly the best home based backup system on the market... don't tell me it's going to iCloud and I have to pay $50 a week for the service.

Or you can buy a hard drive and connect it to your computer, and back up to that using Time Machine.
 
#FireTimCook

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None of the products we love are safe. They'll kill the whole mac line!

Sadly not before mutilating Macs first when they drop Intel for their A chips o_O

Then The Cook will say, "We made the best MacBook ever, but sales are down, clearly because the world has moved on to iPads... Jony, can the whole mac line".
 
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I think all the bloggers have overlooked the biggest reason Apple is getting out of the router biz: most every ISP in the country now, or will soon include router and wi-fi capabilities built-in as part of their modem hardware.

Hard to compete with "free"...

If you use your ISPs router hardware as your internal WiFi or Ethernet network then you simply do not understand or value your family's security or privacy. Connecting your devices to a router that you have no control over subjects you to any and all of the evils of your ISP, botnets, state actors, etc. (e.g. your ISP and many IoT bots can change firmware or settings on you at any time).

In addition, 'Hard to compete with "free"' is a ridiculous statement. First, you have already, or are continuing to, pay for that ISP provided router every month in your bill. In addition, as has been said a million times by others, when a tech company is providing you with something for free, then you are actually the product. In this case, monitoring and selling data on your family's Internet usage, injecting ads, deep packet inspection, interfering with competing services, and throttling your connection come to mind.

It's unfortunate that home users, and most tech bloggers, simply cannot be expected to understand the threats associated with using an ISP-controlled router/AP. Nothing is bulletproof in the current surveillance world, but at least you can purchase a router that you control, lock it down, use a VPN, and use HTTPS to minimize the threats. Fortunately, Apple's routers have been rock-solid in terms of security and reliability over the years. Those of us that value these things continue to hope that Apple is just working on something more modern instead of actually discontinuing a great product. When and if they hopefully release some type of mesh router/AP in the future, I'll buy it (I'll immediately disable Siri and whatever other IoT crap they build into it but I'll buy it nevertheless).
 
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I don’t know why I’m optimistic but they just have to be cooking something up (not a pun at all). No Mac Pro/Mini, no more Cinema Display, no more Time Capsle or Airport, like they have to be working of something new and great. Right?

Apple Car..?
 
Very sad that apple dont respect markets just because they dont completely own them. Apple wifi routers are the best on the market from my experience, and thats without looking likea box with tons of antennas sticking out. I dont understand apple is the only one capable of this.
But, the airport express could really need to get support for the AC network before apple stops production.
 
People that didn't mind paying Apple prices should be able to find a suitable Ubiquiti access point
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...-realize-how-terrible-consumer-wi-fi-gear-is/

There are a bunch of NAS products that can replace that single drive Time Capsule.

Edit: having said that, I'm happy with my Airport Express and I'm sure there's a market for a "it just works" wireless access point for people heavily committed to the Apple ecosystem.
 
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I thought the bad news from apple had stopped for a while with 'wireless iPhone charging' rumoured.

How wrong I was.

I completely rely on my TC attached by cat 6 to Airport Express for Wi-Fi with an apple 'roaming' network for wi-fi thoughout the house.

• Am I best keeping my iPhone 6 next year with airport utility and not update iOS just so I'm okay for years to come to reconfigure if necessary?

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• Also will apple stop TM as its part of my three backup strategy.
 
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Or you can buy a hard drive and connect it to your computer, and back up to that using Time Machine.

But with TC TM backs up automatically every hour or click backup and it backs up straight away no wires. I thought apple were going wireless.

I cant get broadband so have a 100GB a month 4G cap for wi-fi. Cloud storage would eat up all my data.
 
This news really bothers me. My Apple router is the best I have ever tried. I never ever have to reboot it. It just works and never puts up a fuss, plus I like being able to access it with an app on my iPad.

They either need to be working on something new or reverse course immediately on this if they aren't. They might not understand this, but their routers are too important. If their sales aren't high enough, then start running TV ads for them. You can't expect something to sell well if you don't talk about it!

Really getting disappointed in Apple these days.
 
Don't worry guys, according to Phil Schiller Apple is doing great with record sales of the new macbook pro. Who cares if Apple's ecosystem and innovation is going down the toilet, right?
 
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Tim Cook should resign.
Be careful what you wish for. He is the only guy in town that is firm on and cares about privacy. Everyone else will cave to the gov/FBI. True he isn't a Steve Jobs but no one will ever be Steve so it's a moot point. Cook may not be the awesomest choice but he is the best choice.

Btw, Maybe apple are creating a Wi-Fi access point built into another piece of hardware. I really don't think they would just axe Apple Wi-Fi completely. Time will tell.
 
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Tim Cook should resign.

To be honest, this has been my sentiment for the last 2 years already. Cook has no charisma whatsoever. What Apple needs is some young blood - right now, it's led by a bunch of old men with a bookkeeper at the helm. A technology company that gears its products at people between 16 and 40 should be led by someone who is closer to that age range (no, not a 16-year old :)

Whenever I imagine Apple's board room, I see a few tired, bitter old curators of Job's legacy. That worked for a few years when some of Job's ideas were still in the pipeline, but now? Apparently they've decided to replicate Job's courage to be different. Unfortunately, while it was ok for Jobs to leave away the CD-ROM drive, Cook & co. don't seem to be quite as good at predicting the future - leading to one heavily criticized product line after the other, with sales numbers in free fall.

If they actually cared about the company and its products rather than short-term profits, they'd have the balls to step down and make space for someone fresh that has chemistry with the employees and the design department (which seems to be missing as well right now).
 
Agree Best routers in the market. Sad news. I own a 5 year AirPort Extreme it beats the newest D-Link my ISP provided me.
I own one too and was no better that my el cheap wireless router, probably worse in fact. And it's not very configurable.
 
I thought the bad news from apple had stopped for a while with 'wireless iPhone charging' rumoured.

How wrong I was.

I completely rely on my TC attached by cat 6 to Airport Express for Wi-Fi with an apple 'roaming' network for wi-fi thoughout the house.

I've replaced the same setup with a bunch of Ubiquiti Unifi APs and a Synology NAS. Works perfectly, including TM backups and has the added benefit that Ubiquiti has a much bigger range of devices, including the one I have set up outdoors to power the security cameras etc. Also, for the same price as a TC, the Synology is much more powerful - it now also runs my calendars, my cloud data and my backup server for said security cameras.
 
In addition, has Apple confirmed all development has ceased? They rarely comment on anything, but this doesn't deny nor confirm facts.
Yes, Tim keeps stating that everything is a pipe dream. No wait was that in a pipeline? Hmmm does it really matter actions speak louder than words and I see little action. :D
 
Android is looking more and more compelling by the day.

https://madeby.google.com/wifi/

I've spent tens of thousands on the apple ecosystem-

iMacs
iPads
iPods
rMBP
iPhones
Apple Watch
Time Capsules
Airport Express
Apple TVs
Apple Cables
Apple adapters (thanks).

and they continue to pull the rug from under my feet.
Thats what you get for loyalty.
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I've replaced the same setup with a bunch of Ubiquiti Unifi APs and a Synology NAS. Works perfectly, including TM backups and has the added benefit that Ubiquiti has a much bigger range of devices, including the one I have set up outdoors to power the security cameras etc. Also, for the same price as a TC, the Synology is much more powerful - it now also runs my calendars, my cloud data and my backup server for said security cameras.

Thanks for the reply its nice to know there is an alternative that works well.

If apple were launching something similar to googles https://madeby.google.com/wifi/ surely they would launch the new product(s) first.
 
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