All in favor for a Mac Pro case redesign or not... IT'S TIME TO VOTE

Do you think the Mac Pro case should be redesigned for the next update

  • Yes, even though it looks good it's starting to look outdated

    Votes: 51 31.3%
  • No, it's perfect the way it is.

    Votes: 112 68.7%

  • Total voters
    163
Black logo, more HDD stuff, a few extra GFX power cables, BTO internal UPS?

Blu-ray would be nice as I'm pretty sure alot of my clients are stupid enough to request a ridiculously expensive disc (due to my huge profit margins for the sake of it) for their PS3s.

I love it the way it is, hence me buying now rather than waiting. It has everything I need now and it will do for a good few years at which point I sell it on to pay for the new one.
 
Ok guys, I think the post needs a bit of clearing up... The poll should have had more options i.e.
  • the case design should stay the same but be made slightly larger in size with a black logo on the side or black incorporated somehow in it
  • the case design should look similar just smaller in size
  • no changes should be made to the design except for internal feature and the incorporation of USB 3.0 and FW3200 ports

This thread was in direct response to the one stating that the size of the Mac Pro is too big. As I stated in that thread, I love the Mac Pro and its design. However, I believe its size must be increased in order to accommodate better internal features i.e more HDD space along with more PCI-Express 16X slots. This thread was aimed at seeing whether or not people want some new compelling features in the design or not. If it angers people that a thread doesn't meet their criteria then they shouldn't take the time to post on the thread. :D
 
I think s/he is talking about a total redesign inside and out.

If the thread is useless and meaningless to you, then bypass it. Others may find it an enjoyable topic. It's a simple concept.

That is exactly what I was talking about i.e. inside and out redesign. Thanks for seeing it my way... perhaps my wording and options in the poll could have been better.
 
Question you have to ask yourself is, what DO they change it to?

It has perfect layout, cooling and space for its components.

A SSD space could be added somewhere im sure inside and there is just enough space for another row of HDs in there if things were squeezed abit.

However HDs are now dead (generally speaking) Apple wont make more space for HDs, they will make space for SSDs.

First to drop the floppy!
 
I'm not sure I want USB 3.0 anytime in the near future - doesn't tick enough boxes for me. Faster firewire would be of some interest but I don't fancy replacing my Drobo at the same time as getting a new Mac Pro. Lightpeak is nice but once again nothing will support it for a while.

I'd rather the devices came out first with Mac Pro expansion cards available than add to the cost of the Pro and expect devices to catch up.

If I want speed that badly I might as well go Fiber Channel which is roughly 4800MBps - Greater than FW3200 and would probably cost the same to setup from the off (time will keep firewire the cheapest).
 
ildondeigiocchi - I don't think I am being harsh at all - your poll talks about the looks, you talk about the looks and how if they become jaw-dropping you will buy - and THEN when questioned you suggested that perhaps some more real estate INSIDE the case would be a good thing.

So, is this a poll about the looks or the internal case design? And whether I am harsh or not, Apple wont give a monkeys armpit for your poll or the opinions here.

I stick by the fact its another useless, meaningless thread, similar in weight and importance to all the SL is faster, no it isn't drivel.


Why all the hostility?
Why put down people for asking perfectly good questions?
If this or other threads are pointless drivel to you please just ignore them, OK?.

If this thread is so stupid and since you apparently know all about the inner workings of Apple, (as well as everything else in the world)

WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Please go away.

Keri

The case looks fine to me. Maybe just keep upgrading the insides and ports as required by progress.
 
Why all the hostility?
Why put down people for asking perfectly good questions?
If this or other threads are pointless drivel to you please just ignore them, OK?.

If this thread is so stupid and since you apparently know all about the inner workings of Apple, (as well as everything else in the world)

WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Please go away.

Keri

The case looks fine to me. Maybe just keep upgrading the insides and ports as required by progress.

Thanks for the support. I agree with your point of view on the internal upgrade. :D
 
Why all the hostility?
Why put down people for asking perfectly good questions?
If this or other threads are pointless drivel to you please just ignore them, OK?.

If this thread is so stupid and since you apparently know all about the inner workings of Apple, (as well as everything else in the world)

WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Please go away.

Keri

The case looks fine to me. Maybe just keep upgrading the insides and ports as required by progress.

Thanks Keri for saying that.

I think it is fun to follow threads like this. If people don't think it is worth their time - they should move on to other threads that interest them.

Mike
 
The case looks great and functions well.

In terms of performance, we're really needing more for our VFX, but can hand a lot off to render farms so it's not as big a biggie. Some Quadro FX 5800 Mac loving would be great for Maya, which we end up running on other boxes because the cards available for Macs just don't cut the mustard.

For our VT department, USB3 and FW3200 can't come soon enough. And eSATA should have been added a while ago. 10GigE would be absolutely fantastic to find too. Gigabit is way too slow, especially when we look at the transfer we get over our core fibre network.

It might seem like a lot to ask, but when you put as much load all day every day as we do here, these are necessary upgrades - and the Mac Pros don't have enough PCI slots to install everything as an add on. Fibre card, Kona, two GPUs and you're stuffed.

NEED MOAR. :rolleyes:
 
10GigE would be absolutely fantastic to find too. Gigabit is way too slow, especially when we look at the transfer we get over our core fibre network.

More times than not, this is an issue with the writing device, not the network.
 
More times than not, this is an issue with the writing device, not the network.

In other (generally non-post production) businesses and homes your logic is infallible, but here, gigabit ethernet is certainly a bottleneck. We shell out a lot of money to build and maintain the fastest systems possible, and have one currently that performs beyond the limit of even an 8Gig fibre network.

Providing 10GigE access to this would be hugely useful as it opens up far more possibilities for varying departments. When you've got hundreds upon hundreds of terabytes of data (a lot of it 10-bit uncompressed HD, and 2k and 4k video) that has to be shifted - and streamed regularly and quickly around offline and online editing suites, VFX, grading and audio suites, there's no way around pushing for the latest tech.

Luckily we're in a situation where we can push our SANs to the limit and pull multiple streams of even 4k video off at once - but this is something that has come down to an absolutely epic investment. The problem we're hitting now is that the Macs aren't powerful enough to keep up with the throughput the storage can provide each machine.

This is somewhere Apple need to keep up with. If they don't, they stand to lose some of their biggest business clients. Post production is a massive industry for the Mac line, but without cutting edge tech available, people will move away very quickly.
 
Instead of a case design, how about offering more than two $50, low end video cards that belong on $500 pcs and not on a workstation that starts at $2,500? :rolleyes:
 
Who says it's time to vote? You?

If you are basing your buying decision on the looks of the case you need to rethink a little. The case has no bearing on the speed of the computer.

Another stupid, specious thread merely designed around your need for people to hear your opinion.

So here's a tip - if you feel so strongly that the MacPro case needs redesigning in 2010 - go and tell Apple using their feedback forms - they wont listen to any ridiculous poll you start here.

Yeesh, what a grouch.
 
Instead of a case design, how about offering more than two $50, low end video cards that belong on $500 pcs and not on a workstation that starts at $2,500? :rolleyes:

Seconded. The GT120 is garbage. But we get shortchanged on the optical drives as well (they seem to be very low end and very loud!).
 
Ignore the silly hostile comments. Here are my two suggestions, based on fitting GPUs over the last few months.

1. Bigger case and PSU to allow for lots of GPUs (right now you cannot power a single 295 without modding - I have external PSU to run two 285s and it is a tight fit)

2. Stop using dumb custom connectors for PCI power and move them to an easier place to access.
 
i think mini is more in an urgent redesign situation thou, mac pro maybe a little aged, but still looks stunning:p
 
Dust filters would be nice.

In my experience, dust filters have rarefied airflow. Dunno about the new MacPro's cooling, but in the Ancient Times where FB-DIMMs were used, the actual readings for temperature were pretty high for RAM. Of course, I could just be living in the past - I assume the Nehalem is a cooler machine.

1. Bigger case and PSU to allow for lots of GPUs (right now you cannot power a single 295 without modding - I have external PSU to run two 285s and it is a tight fit)
2. Stop using dumb custom connectors for PCI power and move them to an easier place to access.

I want to mirror this - if Apple doesn't want to use more PCIe lanes then just the vanilla X58 chipset, they could at least make room so that two dual-slot cards could fit in and power them instead of having to rely on a singular modern graphics card and another card powered by the relic known as the 8600GT. Yes, there are exceptions.
 
I like the current case. I liked the PowerMac G4 case as well.

IMHO, case design is not as important as what goes inside. The current case seems to provide flexibility and is very usable.

Now if Apple could design a smaller case that would provide the same then sure. Otherwise, I say keep what they have.
 
Ignore the silly hostile comments. Here are my two suggestions, based on fitting GPUs over the last few months.

1. Bigger case and PSU to allow for lots of GPUs (right now you cannot power a single 295 without modding - I have external PSU to run two 285s and it is a tight fit)

2. Stop using dumb custom connectors for PCI power and move them to an easier place to access.

I totally agree with because having more power cables means more graphics power in windows for gaming purposes. :D
 
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