And what a camera it is using LIDAR to assess one's environment (or self) for AR purposes. That's going to open up a ton of applications and uses.
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All New 2020 iPad Pro Models Feature 6GB RAM and Ultra Wideband Chip
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And what a camera it is using LIDAR to assess one's environment (or self) for AR purposes. That's going to open up a ton of applications and uses.
For folks who are allowed to leave their homes that is... I’m guessing the just announced lockdown in California may put a bit of a damper on sales of the new models.
So various people said, but some devs used it to do things like boost layer count. Procreate didn't, Comic Draw did.. So it may depend how the developers use RAM as to whether its useable. I saw people running filesystem related tests (batch encoding, etc) where the 6GB model performed better too. (though those are completely irrelevant to me - more likely relevant to things like video editing?) The layer count boost in Comic Draw was a big reason I went with the 6GB version!
obviously. If the OS is not constrained. That RAM will be used where needed.
In an OS, RAM and programs are allocaed based on priority. in 1 TB, it is more likely that it will be needed for caching, there for it's 6GB. It will improve the performance regardless in real world.
just like the 512 doesn't have more RAM than the 64, it's all about probabilities, not strict allocation.
how likely more RAM will be needed for a given load, and if it is expected to handle that? Is it the kind of performance you can accept, if not? add more RAM.
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You can run 1TB iPP on 1GB of RAM. It will work. Just a lot of paging.
How often and how likely a system page is a design decision.
You can get pregnant and have a child at age 47, but it is very likely that your child will have Down sundown. It's your design decision to weigh if that is acceptable.
just ask an Electrical or Computer Engineer you know in person. It's hard to explain something that takes lots of schooling here.
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I’m wondering when the reviews of these will drop? The MacBook Air reviews are dropping now, so maybe tomorrow.
I guess I'll be returning the iPad Pro 11 I just bought and pick one of these up when available....
This assumes the Best Buy I bought it from will still be open next week.
This assumes the Best Buy I bought it from will still be open next week.
Soon. Maybe Monday?
The Geekbench and Antutu scores we have just seen are undoubtedly from reviewers.
Anyone know much about the U1 chip or whether this guy has a point? This is post from guy on reddit:
"I’m calling BS on the U1 chip. The iPad is a metal backed device. Where would they put the patch antennas needed for UWB? EDIT: I wrote a full on research paper on UWB y’all. It requires 3 patch antennas about a cm2 in area each. You would see antenna line squares on the back if they existed. Take a look at the iPhone 11 tear down to see what I’m referring to. And I’m sure the iPad tear down will show no U1 chip also"
Truth or na?
"I’m calling BS on the U1 chip. The iPad is a metal backed device. Where would they put the patch antennas needed for UWB? EDIT: I wrote a full on research paper on UWB y’all. It requires 3 patch antennas about a cm2 in area each. You would see antenna line squares on the back if they existed. Take a look at the iPhone 11 tear down to see what I’m referring to. And I’m sure the iPad tear down will show no U1 chip also"
Truth or na?
I posted a thread with the Geekbench links yesterday.
Geekbench 5: iPad8,12 (iPad Pro 2020) 6 GB RAM - CPU 1117 / 4724, GPU 10313
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1502247 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/633924
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Wifi 6 is a nice update. 6GB of RAM is a very very minor update because smartphones 1/4 to 1/3 the size come with more RAM. I want to know if we got a Data transfer speed increase via USB C port or if those are at the same old slower speeds still. For an iPad Pro that is between $1000-2000 which is in line with laptop prices I expect better and fast USB C data transfer speeds. Does the new WiFi 6 allow for better and faster data transfer and sync between iPad and MacBook Pro now for iTunes sync?
For iDevices, the upgrade to 6 GB RAM is a HUGE update. It's effectively irrelevant what different devices have running different OSes and different applications.
Adding a pointer or stylus doesn’t change that. iPad is a device that knows what it is. Surface Pro, as nice as it is, is a limited laptop and a lousy tablet. I mean, it’s telling Microsoft actually made a Surface Laptop. Why would they if Surface Pro is good at being both? And again, I like the Surface and certainly it inspired a lot of changes in the industry, including the iPad.
And the implementation of something is just part of the story. DeX may have ok implementation, but what’s the actual, practical use for it? I was serious earlier, does anyone actually use it for anything, when the novelty factor fades?
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I agree that more RAM is great and I actually wish they put 8, but for the past few months you’ve been really riding that train in most posts and I think you’re putting too much emphasis on it. It will be a big thing when most iOS devices have more RAM, and when developers start making more demanding apps - in a few years. Today, it’s a nice update that will reduce reloading of apps and webpages, but not a HUGE one. I don’t think many people will be replacing their 3rd gen iPad Pros because of it.
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I don't think most people will be replacing either 3rd generation iPad Pros to get 6 GB RAM either, and in fact I don't even think it's a good idea for most users. OTOH, I think for heavy users who keep their devices a reasonably long time, I think it makes a lot of good sense to pay more to get a 6 GB 4th generation over a cheaper 4 GB 3rd generation. It's a lot more important than SoC speed for most people for example.
Most of the developers find 6GB RAM won't be good enough for iPad Pro that the workload will swiftly run out of memory and forced to exit other applications!
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I have always believed the iPad is meant to be a device you replace (relatively) frequently.
Thus Apple has, and always will, provide the minimum amount of components to make it run well initially.
My iPad 1 from 2011 is a (relative) brick. It's been useless for years.
My 2011 MBP is still my daily driver, though.
I believe at some point we'll reach parity and/or exceed the power available vs need ratio with iOS/iPadOS devices.
Whether we're there yet remains to be seen and is debatable.
I also think that as we draw closer to iOS/macOS convergence that Apple may start offering RAM upgradeability in iPads, given that portable Macs are in the same no-user-access situation.
In a price vs performance and features comparison, the new MacBook Air wins hands down. Unless you need to draw, or prefer a touchscreen.
Thus Apple has, and always will, provide the minimum amount of components to make it run well initially.
My iPad 1 from 2011 is a (relative) brick. It's been useless for years.
My 2011 MBP is still my daily driver, though.
I believe at some point we'll reach parity and/or exceed the power available vs need ratio with iOS/iPadOS devices.
Whether we're there yet remains to be seen and is debatable.
I also think that as we draw closer to iOS/macOS convergence that Apple may start offering RAM upgradeability in iPads, given that portable Macs are in the same no-user-access situation.
In a price vs performance and features comparison, the new MacBook Air wins hands down. Unless you need to draw, or prefer a touchscreen.
Surface Pro provides a good tablet experience.
I used one and I don't understand why it gets so much criticism as a tablet. Because it doesn't have that many apps? I don't understand what other apps it needs to become a great tablet. And if you are going to criticize the UI, I don't see problems with it.
I feel like you are just trying to find negatives with Dex on purpose.
Dex provides a familiar desktop like experience which most people prefer for multitasking and productivity/office oriented work. Even doing online research for a paper is better on Dex as it's just like doing it on a computer.
Dex is essentially an app that allows Samsung users to take extra advantage of their phone's hardware capabilities. There are no negatives with having this feature available.
Taking in consideration how easy it is to use now(you only need a USB-C to HDMI cable or a HDMI cable and an adapter) plus a screen with an HDMI connection(TV or PC Monitor) more people than ever are using it.
Illegally soldered RAM? In what world do you live in where soldered RAM is illegal? Never mind that many other manufacturers soldered RAM as well onto their ultraportables, with similar markups. And lets not forget all the cheap laptops with soldered RAM and no option to upgrade past 2-4GB. Its not customer friendly or good for the planet, but lets not outlaw devices with soldered RAM, like the 12" MB or rMBP.
Let us elaborate on that for a bit. iPads belong to the devices that users upgrade least frequently, a proof is that there are still iPad 2's flying around (mostly for older persons, sure) and still working. Sure, the iPad 1 was under-powered, the iPad 2 had what, 8 times the GPU power alone?
You're comparing it to a 2011 MBP, cool. Aside from the price point (iPad was what, 499 back then?), that was the A4 chip, the first Apple chip they ever produced in-house. You're comparing it to hardware that is not only more expensive, but has an processor that comes from a company that didn't do it for the first time back then. Poor comparison, if you ask me.
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Yes, I was using an extreme example to illustrate what was true in the past. I concede it is somewhat of an unfair comparison now. But iPads are NOT as equally capable as ANY Mac. YET.
I have not used iOS consistently since I replaced my iPhone 4s with a Galaxy device (and continued to use those to this day) and got rid of my iPad 2, but Apple got caught not long ago slowing their iOS devices down, so I'm not completely off base here, but I could be wrong.
My point really is that, at least from my non-iOS-using perspective, I'd rather spend the same amount of money on a Mac than an iOS device, if anything because it has had longer legs historically. The fact that it can be configured with more RAM, storage, and (in the case of the Pro) better graphics, and more power than an iPad can means I could go another 10 years without replacing it.
I don't think the iPad is there yet, even if it's closer than ever.
That's for me though. The current iPads are awesome and will fill the needs of many, many users.