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'All-Screen' iPhone Under-Display Camera Enters Development
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diego.caraballo
macrumors 6502a
I definitely prefer a hole for the frontal camera.
I know that are some symmetry-fanatics here that want the all-display iPhone, but I understand physics and I don’t want to sacrifice photo quality, specially in low-light
Something that be much better, is the technology to make the hole “transparent” when the user wants to use the frontal camera, and after that, it can be again part of the screen.
I know that are some symmetry-fanatics here that want the all-display iPhone, but I understand physics and I don’t want to sacrifice photo quality, specially in low-light
Something that be much better, is the technology to make the hole “transparent” when the user wants to use the frontal camera, and after that, it can be again part of the screen.
For the next iPhone, I also expect it to have internal speakers without external air holes. The air can move inside the phone, but the sound quality should be comparable to that of a cinema theater. 😎
The_Joker13
macrumors regular
Welcome to 2020 Apple!
The fact that a multi billion dollar company can’t fix something simple and has to make up for it with an gimmick called “Dynamic Island” says it all.
But then again, 5 years after doesn’t seem that bad. They discovered nearly 20 year old technology this year by some rules from overseas lol.
The fact that a multi billion dollar company can’t fix something simple and has to make up for it with an gimmick called “Dynamic Island” says it all.
But then again, 5 years after doesn’t seem that bad. They discovered nearly 20 year old technology this year by some rules from overseas lol.
Mr_Ed
macrumors 65816
I truly don’t see having complete edge 2 edge screen as a priority. Apple decided this design aesthetic was so crucial that starting with the notch,
As for the look, location, and contents of DI, all of that could have been done in a regular rectangular display panel. Experimenting with notification paradigms could have been done without some of the additional investments outlined above. At this point it feels like a bunch of people sitting around trying to justify their jobs by adding complexity.
- Had to procure production of irregularly shaped screen panels
- Probably had to invest additional resources to implement OS and API changes supporting screen cutouts and related complexity
- Had to come up with something to justify a hole for a camera, so expanded the area for other information (DI)
- Had to come up with a way to justify the DI weirdness to app developers to encourage adoption
As for the look, location, and contents of DI, all of that could have been done in a regular rectangular display panel. Experimenting with notification paradigms could have been done without some of the additional investments outlined above. At this point it feels like a bunch of people sitting around trying to justify their jobs by adding complexity.
And 99.999999% of people (including you) are not of enough interest to need a sticker on their iPhone camera.
ThailandToo
macrumors 65816
I have to believe the person who wrote the article forgot that it was UDC by the end as was typing UPC… or was it autocorrect or is there some other thing that is a UDC that’s called UPC like under panel display technology? IDK
mavis
macrumors 601
Disregarding your comment about most people not being photogenic, I'm pretty sure you'll be very aware of when the camera is in use, because the pixels directly above it will need to switched off in order for it to work (otherwise the lights from the LEDs - microLEDs, whatever - would blind the sensor). And if you're THAT concerned about being surreptitiously recorded, perhaps smartphones in general aren't a technology you should be using.
So it seems we’re back to a two year upgrade cycle, if the reduction of cut out is a feature you care about. iPhone 17 Pro with hopefully a smaller island as Face ID goes underneath screen. iPhone 19 Pro as front facing camera then goes underneath screen. My gut tells me full under screen doesn’t make it to the 19 Pro. We seem to have the Dynamic Island for three generations (14, 15, 16). I would bet that Apple will leverage a smaller Dynamic Island for another three generations (17, 18, 19). Maybe they’re just pushing for this in the 19th generation pro knowing there will be delays so they can arrive at iPhone 20 Pro.
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Wizard_of_Woz
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I'd be fine if they got rid of the front facing camera altogether, but then again I'm not one to take selfish-ies constantly. I always liked the OnePlus 7 Pro's popup selfie camera idea. I understand the limitations at that time, but at least the phone offered a full screen without interruption with a 16 megapixel popup camera for those who can't live without taking 397 selfish-ies a day.
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Wizard_of_Woz
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It didn't use Face ID of course, but the popup camera could be used for Face Unlock, which was a nice bonus to the popup design implementation of the front facing camera.
klasma
macrumors G4
My issue is the displaying of notifications/status information is becoming too fragmented. There’s the top status bar (parts of it relegated to Control Center due to the notch/pill), notification banners, and the DI which is a bit of both. They should recombine those into a single consistent, practical and unobtrusive UI.
sracer
macrumors G4
Under-the-glass camera is something that I've been waiting for ever since Apple went with a notch. I don't have much use for the front-facing camera on my iPhone, but the idea of having an under glass front-facing camera on the iPad centered in the screen would make video conferencing more immersive.
Mikep976
macrumors member
Ooooo, neat (closes my fully folding 7in plus tablet foldable). Well that’s sure is something!
It seems like that was always kind of a stopgap. They don’t actually need the display cutout to do Dynamic Island. In fact it should be further up the display back where the original, smaller notch used to be. And this way it could be turned off completely, theoretically.
FSMBP
macrumors 68030
Yes, is it UDC, or UPC? Both are used in the article. If it's an Under Display Camera, then it's UDC, right?
With a FineWoven screen, an Under FineWoven Camera, and Under FineWoven Face ID! BOOM!
DFZD
macrumors 65816
pdoherty
macrumors 68000
And, suddenly, all the apple devotees will agree with those of us who said trying to make a notch into a "feature" was silly nonsense.
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