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Hmm, I wouldn't exactly say The Good, the Bad and the Ugly or Once Upon a Time in the West are so bad that they are a delight to watch, but to see them as high camp is an interesting point of view. Have to think about that. :D

Actually I really like Western and am still waving the flag of Butch and Cas, the Sting doesn't compete, but have to admit that I only saw (and liked a lot) Stagecoach by Ford. What was the name of the Wayne/Mitchum movie again? I liked that one, too. Another great western, although with a lot of dialogues and an awful sequel is 3:10 to Yuma and, as I'm a big big Marlon Brando fan, One Eyed Jacks.
 
The Searchers is not Leone, who is a whole, campy story of his own. Italian westerns (and Italian 50's sci fi) films are so bad they are a delight to watch...with the right attitude going in. Hysterical.

Leone's "Man With No Name" trilogy (A Fistful of Dollars, For A Few Dollars More, and The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly) are worth a look, if only for historical interest...the style was not cliche yet...he was the original High camp and ridiculous, but original.)

The Searchers is John Ford, and is, I believe, the first of his Monument Valley films. I'm not much for color (exception...Bladerunner, which is the only color film I consider a true color film noir). Ford westerns, and especially The Searchers, have terrific direction and cinematography and are worth a look, even if you are not a western fan.

Hmm, I wouldn't exactly say The Good, the Bad and the Ugly or Once Upon a Time in the West are so bad that they are a delight to watch, but to see them as high camp is an interesting point of view. Have to think about that. :D

Actually I really like Western and am still waving the flag of Butch and Cas, the Sting doesn't compete, but have to admit that I only saw (and liked a lot) Stagecoach by Ford. What was the name of the Wayne/Mitchum movie again? I liked that one, too. Another great western, although with a lot of dialogues and an awful sequel is 3:10 to Yuma and, as I'm a big big Marlon Brando fan, One Eyed Jacks.

Ah, sigh. Everyone is allowed one or two lapses of taste, and one of mine happens to be spaghetti westerns. Of course, I'll readily admit they are not 'classics' in the enduring food-for-the-soul sense, but, but, but, I love the shimmering heat, the arid landscapes, the witless mindless violence, the two dimensional characters, the threadbare plots, the lousy dialogue, the irresistible music, and the sheer operatic choreography of such boundless bad taste. For the same odd inexplicable reason, I love surf music (which Quentin Tarantino described as "rock and roll spaghetti western", and I thought to myself: How right you are.)

Re westerns, I must say that I really liked two of Clint Eastwood's more serious offerings: The Outlaw Josie Wales (featuring a very impressive Chief Dan George), and, of course, Unforgiven.
 
Hmm, I wouldn't exactly say The Good, the Bad and the Ugly or Once Upon a Time in the West are so bad that they are a delight to watch, but to see them as high camp is an interesting point of view. Have to think about that. :D

Actually I really like Western and am still waving the flag of Butch and Cas, the Sting doesn't compete, but have to admit that I only saw (and liked a lot) Stagecoach by Ford. What was the name of the Wayne/Mitchum movie again? I liked that one, too. Another great western, although with a lot of dialogues and an awful sequel is 3:10 to Yuma and, as I'm a big big Marlon Brando fan, One Eyed Jacks.

The only western with both Wayne and Mitchum that I can think of is El Dorado...which was directed by Howard Hawks. I don't know if there are any others with both, but I don't think they both appeared in any John Ford westerns.

You are absolutely right that the remake of 3:10 To Yuma was a turkey...the original was a goody.
 
The only western with both Wayne and Mitchum that I can think of is El Dorado...which was directed by Howard Hawks. I don't know if there are any others with both, but I don't think they both appeared in any John Ford westerns.

El Dorado is quite right, entertaining but definitely not a classic. To finalize my take on this thread and because I'm curious if you think it equally brilliant like I do: The Island of the Lost Souls from '32 with Charles Laughton and a nearby cameo by Lugosi. This one does never get old.
 
El Dorado is quite right, entertaining but definitely not a classic. To finalize my take on this thread and because I'm curious if you think it equally brilliant like I do: The Island of the Lost Souls from '32 with Charles Laughton and a nearby cameo by Lugosi. This one does never get old.

Terrific movie. I believe there were two remakes under the name "The Island Of Dr, Moreau".

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I know one version starred Marlon Brando and was extremely weird! Another was with Burt Lancaster (!) and Michael York...not as weird as the Brando version, but not as good as the Laughton film.

BTW: I'm sure you're aware of it, but just in case the absolute best source of information about movies, TV series, etc. is www.IMDb.com. It has EVERYTHING about every movie ever made in the known universe, including ways to contact players agents in case you want to hire them for a movie you're making!!
 
Terrific movie. I believe there were two remakes under the name "The Island Of Dr, Moreau".

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I know one version starred Marlon Brando and was extremely weird! Another was with Burt Lancaster (!) and Michael York...not as weird as the Brando version, but not as good as the Laughton film.

BTW: I'm sure you're aware of it, but just in case the absolute best source of information about movies, TV series, etc. is www.IMDb.com. It has EVERYTHING about every movie ever made in the known universe, including ways to contact players agents in case you want to hire them for a movie you're making!!

Imdb is worth gold, but loses greatly credibility upon more recent releases in my opinion (of course only regarding the critics and ratings). I love the 'hated it' critics and quotes of course.
And yes you're right, there are at least two remakes. The one starring Brando features also Val Kilmer and I'm always at the brink of buying it. As I wrote before I adore Brando, but he did a lot of crappy films too and I'd like to avoid these if possible..you say it's weird? That sounds promising, maybe I'll give it a try. Or do you mean weird in the sense of dreadfully bad?

Edit: ok, you say that it's the worst of the three? Maybe I should watch 'em all then :D

btw. do you use IMDb Pro? It serves me perfectly as it is right now but you'll never know. That's the section where you get the contacts?
 
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Imdb is worth gold, but loses greatly credibility upon more recent releases in my opinion (of course only regarding the critics and ratings). I love the 'hated it' critics and quotes of course.
And yes you're right, there are at least two remakes. The one starring Brando features also Val Kilmer and I'm always at the brink of buying it. As I wrote before I adore Brando, but he did a lot of crappy films too and I'd like to avoid these if possible..you say it's weird? That sounds promising, maybe I'll give it a try. Or do you mean weird in the sense of dreadfully bad?

I'll leave it to you to decide whether "weird" means "strange", or dreadfully bad.

Brando was wonderful in his early stuff (just saw "on The Waterfront" again, "A Streetcar Named Desire", etc.) but I thought some of his later films (e.g "Missouri Breaks") were less than stellar. He certainly revolutionized film acting. Many tried, very few were able to capture his brilliance.
 
Hmm, I wouldn't exactly say The Good, the Bad and the Ugly or Once Upon a Time in the West are so bad that they are a delight to watch, but to see them as high camp is an interesting point of view. Have to think about that. :D

Actually I really like Western and am still waving the flag of Butch and Cas, the Sting doesn't compete, but have to admit that I only saw (and liked a lot) Stagecoach by Ford. What was the name of the Wayne/Mitchum movie again? I liked that one, too. Another great western, although with a lot of dialogues and an awful sequel is 3:10 to Yuma and, as I'm a big big Marlon Brando fan, One Eyed Jacks.

Have you seen the western "High Noon" (1952) with Gary Cooper ? I would probably rank that in with the top westerns ever produced.

I actually enjoyed the latest "3:10 to Yuma" but I never saw the original (I find that many people seem to enjoy the movie version the most that they see first).
 
Have you seen the western "High Noon" (1952) with Gary Cooper ? I would probably rank that in with the top westerns ever produced.

Totally agree, High Noon is a perfect movie. 10/10


I actually enjoyed the latest "3:10 to Yuma" but I never saw the original (I find that many people seem to enjoy the movie version the most that they see first).

Didn't you say before, that you actually like every movie you're watching? So no surprise here. :p
But seriously, the original Yuma based upon a completely different concept, so that's one issue regarding a remake (but wouldn't be a reason for me to dislike it).
Actually I liked the start of it, but besides Crowe whom I can't stand, it immediately grew into one unbelievable piece of non-stop action-entertainment - which too is excusable I think:
The main problem was that it is incredible predictable and full of flaws. That's a bad combination, and I even watched the latest Yuma at first.

Besides, I wrote it in the other movie-thread - maybe you missed it, but have you seen the Jin-Roh / The Wolf Brigade movie? If yes, how did you like it? I think it's fantastic!
 
I'll have to check out Jin-Roh / The Wolf Brigade.

My view of a movie is dependent on my expectations of the movie. I usually have lower expectations for movies which is why I end up enjoying most movies. Yuma wasn't a great movie but it was still a fun/action flick. I agree with your opinion of Crowe :D.

As far as westerns, I thought the only good John Wayne westerns were "True Grit" (I thought it was his best) and "The Shootist". I consider "Stagecoach" a classic but John Wayne's acting was pretty mediocre in it.

Totally agree, High Noon is a perfect movie. 10/10




Didn't you say before, that you actually like every movie you're watching? So no surprise here. :p
But seriously, the original Yuma based upon a completely different concept, so that's one issue regarding a remake (but wouldn't be a reason for me to dislike it).
Actually I liked the start of it, but besides Crowe whom I can't stand, it immediately grew into one unbelievable piece of non-stop action-entertainment - which too is excusable I think:
The main problem was that it is incredible predictable and full of flaws. That's a bad combination, and I even watched the latest Yuma at first.

Besides, I wrote it in the other movie-thread - maybe you missed it, but have you seen the Jin-Roh / The Wolf Brigade movie? If yes, how did you like it? I think it's fantastic!
 
I'll have to check out Jin-Roh / The Wolf Brigade.

My view of a movie is dependent on my expectations of the movie. I usually have lower expectations for movies which is why I end up enjoying most movies. Yuma wasn't a great movie but it was still a fun/action flick. I agree with your opinion of Crowe :D.

As far as westerns, I thought the only good John Wayne westerns were "True Grit" (I thought it was his best) and "The Shootist". I consider "Stagecoach" a classic but John Wayne's acting was pretty mediocre in it.

Yes, check it out. It's rather dark and serious so please adjust your expectations - maybe fantastic is a tad too much (just saw Ghost in The Shell lately :eek:).

re: Agree with your view upon the old Stagecoach, although my print is quite bad. Funny, I was almost buying True Grit yesterday..I liked the last one with Bridges..especially the colors. But instead I bought I Walked with a Zombie and John Carter(popcorn yeah). Read an interesting article about that Carter movie so hope it will be a fun-flick too.
Am awaiting some Amazon deliveries so I'll have a look at some other Animes (Trigun, Ghibli, Gits Innocence) later on.


Edit: Because this is the All Stars movie section: Ghost In The Shell
 
^^ I'll never understand why this is no1 in the Imdb Top250. Never. Pathetic and shallow every single minute. Watch Cool Hand Luke instead.
 
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In no order:

Police Academy 1-7
Home Alone 1 and 2
All Harry Potter movies
The Money Pit
Confessions of a Shopaholic
St Trinians modern remakes (1 and 2)
St Trinian's original 1950s/60s (all 4)
To Kill A Mockingbird
The Quiet Man
Christmas With The Kranks
Mr Bean: The Ultimate Disaster Movie
Mr Bean's Holiday
Erin Brokovich
Sleepless In Seattle
You've Got Mail

Can't think of any others...
 
Depending on when you ask, my all time favorite movies will be different.

I love all the star wars movies (including the new ones).
Ground Hog day.
Das Boot
The Fifth Element
Gold Finger
The Matrix
 
1. Pulp Fiction
2. Melancholia
3. Mulholland Dr.
4. Inglourious Basterds
5. Oldboy
6. Strange Circus
7. Antichrist
8. The Matrix
9. Apocalypse Now
10. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
11. Kill Bill: Vol. 2
12. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
13. The Departed
14. Se7en
15. Lady Vengeance
16. Dancer in the Dark
17. Amélie
18. Children of Men
19. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
20. A Tale of Two Sisters
21. Memento
22. Audition
23. Fight Club
24. City of God
25. Let the Right One In
 
Citizen Kane
The Third Man
The Maltese Falcon
The Big Sleep
Key Largo
Little Caesar
The Asphalt Jungle
Sweet Smell Of Success
White Heat
The Stranger
Bladerunner
Ride The High Country
The Wild Bunch
Sunset Boulevard
The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre
High Sierra
The Bad And The Beautiful
The Petrified Forrest

for openers...:p
 
Citizen Kane
The Third Man
The Maltese Falcon
The Big Sleep
Key Largo
Little Caesar
The Asphalt Jungle
Sweet Smell Of Success
White Heat
The Stranger
Bladerunner
Ride The High Country
The Wild Bunch
Sunset Boulevard
The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre
High Sierra
The Bad And The Beautiful
The Petrified Forrest

for openers...:p

My favorites out of your list. Do you like "Giant" by chance? IMO, a great movie about a large ranch in Texas (time frame 1920s-1950s).

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My favorites out of your list. Do you like "Giant" by chance? IMO, a great movie about a large ranch in Texas (time frame 1920s-1950s).

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I'm not a big fan of "epic" films. Grand sweep and scope and all that just doesn't do it for me. Stuff like "Lawrence of Arabia", "Gone With The Wind", "Dr. Zhivago" and the like are not my favorite film style. I'm not knocking those films, just not my taste. As you can see from my list, I prefer small, tight, character driven films.

Once again, I'm not disparaging "epic" films, but I just never took to them. Films with a "grand sweep" have their interesting points, but for me, watching Claire Trevor in the singing scene in "Key Largo" generates much more of a reaction in me than David Leans amazingly beautiful Images of the desert in "Lawrence...".

Also, re: "Giant"...I don't find Rock Hudson much of an actor...nor Elizabeth Taylor, for that matter. James Dean had a lot of potential, but tragically we never had the opportunity to find out if that potential would be fulfilled.

Different strokes...:D
 
I'm not a big fan of "epic" films. Grand sweep and scope and all that just doesn't do it for me. Stuff like "Lawrence of Arabia", "Gone With The Wind", "Dr. Zhivago" and the like are not my favorite film style. I'm not knocking those films, just not my taste. As you can see from my list, I prefer small, tight, character driven films.

Once again, I'm not disparaging "epic" films, but I just never took to them. Films with a "grand sweep" have their interesting points, but for me, watching Claire Trevor in the singing scene in "Key Largo" generates much more of a reaction in me than David Leans amazingly beautiful Images of the desert in "Lawrence...".

Also, re: "Giant"...I don't find Rock Hudson much of an actor...nor Elizabeth Taylor, for that matter. James Dean had a lot of potential, but tragically we never had the opportunity to find out if that potential would be fulfilled.

Different strokes...:D

Gone with the Wind, another great movie, although Lawrence and Dr. Zhivago are not. :D
 
Gone with the Wind, another great movie, although Lawrence and Dr. Zhivago are not. :D

I love good disagreements!:D

I've tried to watch GWTW on 4 or 5 different occasions, and could never get through the whole thing. Honest, I really tried, but I found it so soapy and, ultimately boring, I could never finish it.

I'm not a Clark Gable fan. I don't find him to have much range, and never took to him. I know that GWTW is an highly regarded film...but not for me. And I understand it was a film of it's time, and judging it by current standards may be a bit unfair, but the Butterfly McQueen character made my skin crawl. I know roles for African American characters were limited, but I can't watch Stepin Fetchit at all, and the Butterfly McQueen character was horrific.

That being said, Hatty McDaniel was once asked if it bothered her to always have to play a maid, and replied..."I'd rather play a maid, than be one!"

I thought "Lawrence...", given the genre, was very well made, especially Lean's direction and the cinematography. "Dr. Zhivago"...meh!
 
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