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All Vegans need to watch this!

What does that have to do with Veganism ? It's simply a proof of the widely known fact about weight : As long as your calorie consumption is lower than your calorie expenditure, you will lose weight, no matter the source of said calories.

You can lose weight on a diet of McDonald's only. It doesn't mean you'll be healthy though, as you'll be lacking a lot of nutriments that a proper diet would give you while also providing a lower calorie count. Things like Fiber, Calcium and most vitamins come to mind, as those are absent from McDonald's food due to the high fat/sugar content.

This is about as far from veganism (which has other challenges as far as nutriments go, usually ending with vegans taking a lot of supplements) as you can get.
 
KnightWRX said:
What does that have to do with Veganism ? It's simply a proof of the widely known fact about weight : As long as your calorie consumption is lower than your calorie expenditure, you will lose weight, no matter the source of said calories.

You can lose weight on a diet of McDonald's only. It doesn't mean you'll be healthy though, as you'll be lacking a lot of nutriments that a proper diet would give you while also providing a lower calorie count. Things like Fiber, Calcium and most vitamins come to mind, as those are absent from McDonald's food due to the high fat/sugar content.

This is about as far from veganism (which has other challenges as far as nutriments go, usually ending with vegans taking a lot of supplements) as you can get.
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He shows how bad vegan diets are in the film. Did you watch the whole thing?
 
Merriam Webster said:
veg·an definition
Pronunciation: /ˈvē-gən; ˈvej-ən, -ˌan/
Function: n
: a strict vegetarian who consumes no animal food or dairy products
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I don't see anything about healthy eating in that definition.
 
wow. a comedian lost weight. amazing.

i'll stick with my vegetarian diet. you stick with your meat one. let's try and eat as healthy as we can :)
 
Boeing747 said:
Watch the movie then look back at your comment. :)
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I'm not wasting my time on some bull#$& movie to learn that veganism isn't the ideal lifestyle for many individuals. Some Vegans treat it like a religion. My girlfriend is a vegetarian and I still eat red meat 2-3 times a week, I just split our pasta, stir fry, pizza, salad, etc two ways, and add meat after. No need to be a jerk about it to attempt to prove a point. To each their own. Let people eat what they want to eat.
 
Wow his voice is annoying as hell. Yeah, this really has nothing to do with vegans. I love how you're trying to get a rouse out of people. :rolleyes:
 
KnightWRX said:
What does that have to do with Veganism ? It's simply a proof of the widely known fact about weight : As long as your calorie consumption is lower than your calorie expenditure, you will lose weight, no matter the source of said calories.

You can lose weight on a diet of McDonald's only. It doesn't mean you'll be healthy though, as you'll be lacking a lot of nutriments that a proper diet would give you while also providing a lower calorie count. Things like Fiber, Calcium and most vitamins come to mind, as those are absent from McDonald's food due to the high fat/sugar content.

This is about as far from veganism (which has other challenges as far as nutriments go, usually ending with vegans taking a lot of supplements) as you can get.
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Right! Right! Right!

There's so much b******t about source of calories - the quote above simplifies and clarifies beautifully.

Extreme diets require very careful evaluation to be sure they supply complete protein and other essential nutrients.

I am in no way criticizing or condemning veganism, or other kinds of diets. Just urging education and caution. :)
 
I love haggis too much to ever consider adopting a vegetarian/vegan diet.
 
Shrink said:
Right! Right! Right!

There's so much b******t about source of calories - the quote above simplifies and clarifies beautifully.

Extreme diets require very careful evaluation to be sure they supply complete protein and other essential nutrients.

I am in no way criticizing or condemning veganism, or other kinds of diets. Just urging education and caution. :)
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extreme diet?

i can't imagine why veganism is an extreme diet when it consists of eating a variety of fruits, vegetables, and other non-meat, non-dairy products. the only supplement you will need is b12. i take a general supplement to make sure i get everything i need, but i was taking that even before i became a vegetarian. in my opinion, that is just good sense.

extreme diets are any that lack variety. a carnivore eating mcdonald's hamburgers every day, or someone subsisting on rice alone will face horrific health consequences (obesity, beri-beri, etc.). being a vegan doesn't make you extreme. eating unhealthy (in any manner) accomplishes that.

instead of bashing mcdonalds, vegans, or meat eaters, if we all are careful to moderate our caloric intake and eat a variety of foods, then we'll be a lot healthier regardless of our dietary philosophies.
 
palpatine said:
extreme diet?

i can't imagine why veganism is an extreme diet when it consists of eating a variety of fruits, vegetables, and other non-meat, non-dairy products. the only supplement you will need is b12. i take a general supplement to make sure i get everything i need, but i was taking that even before i became a vegetarian. in my opinion, that is just good sense.

extreme diets are any that lack variety. a carnivore eating mcdonald's hamburgers every day, or someone subsisting on rice alone will face horrific health consequences (obesity, beri-beri, etc.). being a vegan doesn't make you extreme. eating unhealthy (in any manner) accomplishes that.

instead of bashing mcdonalds, vegans, or meat eaters, if we all are careful to moderate our caloric intake and eat a variety of foods, then we'll be a lot healthier regardless of our dietary philosophies.
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Point taken.

Perhaps the word "extreme" was ill-considered:eek:. My main point was to focus on the need for adequate nutrient intake. I certainly agree completely with your last paragraph. Moderation in caloric intake (probably easier with a vegan diet) and a variegated food selection is best. :D
 
Shrink said:
Point taken.

Perhaps the word "extreme" was ill-considered:eek:. My main point was to focus on the need for adequate nutrient intake. I certainly agree completely with your last paragraph. Moderation in caloric intake (probably easier with a vegan diet) and a variegated food selection is best. :D
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:)
Yeah. I think we pretty much agree. I picked up on that word because I have seen it in other vegan threads. I wasn't picking on you as much as I was trying to suggest another perspective on it to other people in the thread. Sometimes it seems people get so caught up in fighting about the moral implications of diets (usually vegetarians and vegans in the mac forums pushing their worldview on others) that they overlook the most important thing: eating balanced meals.

At many restaurants it is actually surprisingly difficult for meat eaters to receive adequate helpings of vegetables. Obviously, as a vegetarian, I sometimes struggle to find decent stuff on the menu as well. With all of the abundance in first world countries, it is disappointing how narrow our food choices are in restaurants and lots of supermarkets.
 
palpatine said:
extreme diets are any that lack variety. a carnivore eating mcdonald's hamburgers every day, or someone subsisting on rice alone will face horrific health consequences (obesity, beri-beri, etc.). being a vegan doesn't make you extreme. eating unhealthy (in any manner) accomplishes that.
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Seriously dude? Did you even read the description of the movie?
 
There are many reasons why people are vegans, so watching a movie isn't going to change anything for them.
 
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