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All you need to know about At&T plans----Read on

I can understand the new charge of $30. All the other 3g smartphone cost that much too.

But $45 to be able to connect to an excange server to get work email? Now THAT is a rip off. My buddy pays $30 a month with his windows mobile phone on att and he gets exchange connectivity for free. There should be no upcharge for this!
 
non eligable upgraders

i think the prices for non-eligible upgrades will be
8GB-$399
16GB-$499
 
Merlosso said:
This is probably common knowledge so excuse me for having to ask.

What is IRU?
What is CRU?
What is FAN?

Through my employer, I'm eligible for a "10% monthly discount on qualified charges". Does one of these acronyms refer to that?
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FAN is the traditional employee discount program I think (I know mine says something like <COMPANY NAME> FAN DISCOUNTS on my att login page.
 
Sold my iphone 2 weeks ago, but still have the iphone data plan, sim card and all. Am I techically a 2g iPhone owner, can I just say its not working properly and am using a backup phone.
 
So, is the unlimited texting still $15? So $45 for unlimited everything, except minutes?
 
stateofmind said:
Sold my iphone 2 weeks ago, but still have the iphone data plan, sim card and all. Am I techically a 2g iPhone owner, can I just say its not working properly and am using a backup phone.
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When you buy it in the store, you have to either physically activate it and sign the new contract at the higher rate or sign the contract and activate through iTunes -- either way you're agreeing to the new terms. No SIM swapping and playing dumb, unfortunately.
 
(Customers that would not otherwise be eligible due to tenure will be made eligible at launch).

Doesn't that mean that all customers will be eligible to buy the 3g iPhone at $199? or does it mean that they will let you buy it, but you have to pay like $400
 
Can someone please explain to me what IRU and CRU service discounts are? I just called AT&T and I am eligible for 24% off my base plan through my employer. Will this work with the 3G iPhone?
 
Ryan.Fork said:
What another load of BS on the part of ATT... We'll let the current iPhone customers upgrade for cheap while we shaft the hell out of the unlucky souls who don't have iPhones :rolleyes:
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Even if you don't have an iPhone, if you are atleast a year into your contract they will usually give you an early upgrade.
 
Diode said:
And Gizmodo should give Boy Genious proper credit ....

I posted this yesterday but no one responded :(

BTW IRU is AT&T corporate talk to those users on FAN discount programs. If this document is REAL then FAN discounts on voice and data will be valid.
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Just trying to figure out what the meaning of:

IRU
FAN
CRU

is and the relationship to discounts.

My employer has a discount plan with AT&T, and I note on the bottom of the web page something called a "Foundation Account Number". Is this FAN as above?

Would be nice if I can all but eliminate the monthly price increase for the 3G... :p

Thanks.

:apple::apple:
 
rolex54 said:
(Customers that would not otherwise be eligible due to tenure will be made eligible at launch).

Doesn't that mean that all customers will be eligible to buy the 3g iPhone at $199? or does it mean that they will let you buy it, but you have to pay like $400
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That only applies to owners and users of the 1st gen iPhone.

Here is my problem with this...

I am a former iPhone owner. I bought one for $400, just like the rest of the people receiving special credit, and used it for 6 months. I sold it in March out of necessity, not because I wanted money for the 3G unit. At the time, I was given an early upgrade and I got a BlackBerry Curve, again, out of necessity, which I have had since then.

What this means... I paid the unsubsidized, $400 for the iPhone in October and used it with the same minutes plan I still have, and the $20/mo data plan. I then bought a BlackBerry Curve for a subsidized price, blowing away my upgrade status because I needed to have one. Like I said, I continued the same minute plan, only now my data went up to $30, giving At&t more money.

I am the same as a person still using the iPhone, except that I pay more money and have just moved my SIM to a different device.

Where is my special treatment? If you are going to give special treatment to current iPhone users, you should extend that to EVERYONE who has EVER had an iPhone on their plan past the trial month, regardless of whether they still use it or not.
 
viggen61 said:
Just trying to figure out what the meaning of:

IRU
FAN
CRU
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IRU/CRU are account designations for corporate discounts.

IRU: Individual responsibility
CRU: Corporate Responsibility

FAN: Foundation account number

If you have a FAN attached to the account and pay the bill yourself you have a IRU account. If your company pays for your phone you have a CRU account.
 
CrazEtooN said:
That only applies to owners and users of the 1st gen iPhone.

Here is my problem with this...

I am a former iPhone owner. I bought one for $400, just like the rest of the people receiving special credit, and used it for 6 months. I sold it in March out of necessity, not because I wanted money for the 3G unit. At the time, I was given an early upgrade and I got a BlackBerry Curve, again, out of necessity, which I have had since then.

What this means... I paid the unsubsidized, $400 for the iPhone in October and used it with the same minutes plan I still have, and the $20/mo data plan. I then bought a BlackBerry Curve for a subsidized price, blowing away my upgrade status because I needed to have one. Like I said, I continued the same minute plan, only now my data went up to $30, giving At&t more money.

I am the same as a person still using the iPhone, except that I pay more money and have just moved my SIM to a different device.

Where is my special treatment? If you are going to give special treatment to current iPhone users, you should extend that to EVERYONE who has EVER had an iPhone on their plan past the trial month, regardless of whether they still use it or not.
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I feel for you. It sucks being stuck with a phone when something new comes out that you want. I have a love/hate relationship with subsidies. You get a great phone for a low price but you're stuck with that phone for two years (which is usually 18 months longer than I am happy with any phone).

The problem is that your Blackberry was subsidized. The subsidy is made up through the life of your contract. The agreement is that the carrier will sell you the phone at a discount but you have to agree to stay with them for two years. At the end of that time, the carrier will sell you a different phone at a lower price for the same two year commitment.

What makes current iPhone owners different is that the phone was not subsidized to begin with; you paid full price. There's no loss if you buy a subsidized phone a year later. If you had sold your iPhone and activated another old phone that you already had (without entering a new contract with a subsidized phone), you would probably be fine and would qualify.

And let's not forget that you sold your iPhone. You made back some of the $400 you spent. You could talk to AT&T about canceling your current contract and paying the ETF (essentially repaying the subsidy), sell the BB on eBay (essentially recouping a decent portion of the money you spent on the phone and the ETF) and then buy a new iPhone.

Good luck.
 
Has there been official confirmation that the iPhone and accompanying plans will be available for corporate discounts this time?
 
callmemike20 said:
And honestly, what is an iPhone without a data plan?
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An iphone without a data plan is a great phone with PDA abilities, ipod, and wifi surfing. I personally have no need for data and I don't text (I know, living in the stone ages) so I wish they would relent and let people who do not need data buy the phone without it.
 
Merlosso said:
I feel for you. It sucks being stuck with a phone when something new comes out that you want. I have a love/hate relationship with subsidies. You get a great phone for a low price but you're stuck with that phone for two years (which is usually 18 months longer than I am happy with any phone).

The problem is that your Blackberry was subsidized. The subsidy is made up through the life of your contract. The agreement is that the carrier will sell you the phone at a discount but you have to agree to stay with them for two years. At the end of that time, the carrier will sell you a different phone at a lower price for the same two year commitment.

What makes current iPhone owners different is that the phone was not subsidized to begin with; you paid full price. There's no loss if you buy a subsidized phone a year later. If you had sold your iPhone and activated another old phone that you already had (without entering a new contract with a subsidized phone), you would probably be fine and would qualify.

And let's not forget that you sold your iPhone. You made back some of the $400 you spent. You could talk to AT&T about canceling your current contract and paying the ETF (essentially repaying the subsidy), sell the BB on eBay (essentially recouping a decent portion of the money you spent on the phone and the ETF) and then buy a new iPhone.

Good luck.
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Most of us (I HOPE!) know how subsidizes work, just as you explained. The problem is that AT&T is not being forthcoming with pricing details for those of us who are not eligible. Steve Jobs made a big deal out of stressing the low prices of the new devices - steering clear of any subsidy implications. AT&T should just tell us what the "full" price of the iPhone is if we are not eligible for an upgrade yet - that information is readily available for any other smartphone.

Compounding the confusion is that AT&T has been VERY clear on another issue - ALL new iPhones WILL be subject to a new 2 year contract. That is fine and good as part of a subsidized phone purchase, but is AT&T telling me that I will get no subsidy AND have to sign a new contract? That's not how it works for any other phone.

One more thing: AT&T did say "Note: When the 3G device launches, all active postpaid customers in good standing with a 2G iPhone will be eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing for a 3G device regardless of service tenure. (Customers that would not otherwise be eligible due to tenure will be made eligible at launch)." This would seem to include customers who were already on a contract from another subsidized device BEFORE they bought their 2G iPhones. Seems these people lucked into early eligibility.
 
saxamoophone said:
Now here's a question:
Can I buy a 2g-iphone, activate it, and then go into the apple store looking to upgrade (even though my at&t contract on my non-iphone doesn't expire until 11/09)? Can you "beat the system" that way? =p
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If Apple allows us to purchase phones from their website, I think that's the only way we can get away with avoiding the activation set-up... but than again, how would one accomplish activating a phone this way (if a plan was really wanted) when they can't activate their new 3G phone through itunes anymore?

Not sure. I wasn't considering one, but I'm on a Pay As You Go Plan.
 
D3lta said:
Yay, my dads email qualifies. What does this mean for me?

I looked through the email you get with the info(and the link to the site) and nothing really says anything about discount. The only discounts I saw were some discounts on te LG Vue.
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I guess that means your dad qualifies and you don't? You don't find out what the discount amount is until you switch the account over... that is done online too you just follow the instructions.
 
As I've been reading all these wonderful threads, I've come back to this one :p. I'm not all too concerned about how much it will cost me, I'll buy it either way, but a quote is coming back into my head from yesterday... Didn't SJ mention something about the "maximum" price around the world being $199. I don't believe there was an "*" anywhere around there either.

The only thing that really bothers me is if I have to pay more than the $199/$299 and extend my contract for another 2 years. I wouldn't have to re-up if I went into a COR ATT store right now and bought a RAZR2 for full retail, so why should I have to with the God-Phone?
 
Diode said:
IRU/CRU are account designations for corporate discounts.

IRU: Individual responsibility
CRU: Corporate Responsibility

FAN: Foundation account number

If you have a FAN attached to the account and pay the bill yourself you have a IRU account. If your company pays for your phone you have a CRU account.
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Thanks for the info. Looks like I'll get a discount!
:D
 
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