Huh that makes now sence the power macs where built on a costum ibm power isa not a costum arm one, what am I mussing here
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Alleged Apple Chip Plans Suggest 'A16' Will Stick With 5nm, 'M2' to Make Jump to 3nm Instead
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Can we plz stopp callingenithing *gate, yea a lot of things are serious, but bad antenna design ( apoart ftom the few cases where it actually hindered emergency calls) is hardly on the scale if the iriginal gate ( ie watergate) witch mote or less fireced a US president to resign. My point us when we use an expression to much (and imho apply it in cases where ut us nit at all warranted) it looses all its meaning. And no, I'm not a butter okd fart that can renember the actual watergate from " when I was young"
Correct. N5P yields are well over 90% so the "waste" is likely quite low and why Apple can sell almost all of their M1s and A15s because the ones that do have defects have very few (the "binned" models). Building A16 (and, perhaps, M2) on this process would also mean most of the SoCs would be usable.
As you (and others) have noted, in the end, M2 is just a marketing name. And for some time M2 was thought to be using the A15's CPU and GPU cores, with speculation that it might be on A16's cores only really starting to gain traction as we grew closer to the A16's launch.
And let us not forget there were rumors M2 was entering validation production this time last year (around the same time A15 did).
At the end of 2021, media speculation was that we'd see M2 likely in the Spring and the "professional" M2 SoCs in the Fall of 2022. I believe that roadmap, if it was ever official, is now out the window due to supply chain and manufacturing issues. Apple can't even meet demand for the M1 family, much less shipping millions of consumer M2 and professional M2 models.
I do expect M2 to launch either at WWDC or at a special Mac event in the Fall and we should see M2 refreshes of the MacBook Air, Mac mini and 24" iMac. Apple might also slip in an M1 Pro Mac mini at the same event.
As for M2 Pro / M2 Max / M2 Ultra, they might happen in Spring 2023 or WWDC 2023. Or Apple might end up just scrapping them and going straight to M3 / Pro / Max / Ultra at WWDC 2024 with everything at 3nm.
I think Apple will continue to offer the MacBook Air and Mac mini, at least, on M1 for the foreseeable future to lower the minimum entry price to try and pick up some more budget-conscious customers. Same with the M2 models once M3 becomes the normal.
Don’t blame us, blame Nixon, he started it. And every “iPhone-gate” that has occurred was on a grander scale than Watergate… the iPhone install base has been larger than the 1970s US electorate for a long time. And don’t get me started on Apple and Steve Jobs turning gaslighting and misinformation into an art form… from Nixon’s desperate “I’m not a crook” to Steve’s indignant “You’re holding it wrong,” we’ve come a long way, but “Apple-gates” are here to stay. /s #stirringthepot
Could you please say that again a bit louder? I can't hear you over the fan noise from my Alder Lake/3090 system. Plus I've got the A/C running to keep up....
And with with its increase in the CPU power package tracking to 230W max on the socket AM5 CPU's, it looks like AMD is planning to join the Intel space heater club:
AMD clarifies power usage limits of its next-gen AM5 CPUs (and why that’s important)
AM5 socket’s peak and sustained power limits have big performance implications.
arstechnica.com
Or, instead of releasing a Mac Pro with M1 SupremeBeing*, they might be so far into the M2 development that they have folded M2 into the SupremeBeing development, and will release the M2 SupremeBeing as the first release of SupremeBeing.
* Or whatever it gets called.
Undoubtedly Apple will keep selling the 2 year old M1 MacBook Air for $1000 for years to come. I mean how long did Apple keep sell the old 13" TN panel MacBook Air even though most laptops in its price range already have IPS panels? Apple love milking old stuff for their entry level models, to differentiate the haves and have nots.
Firstly, did you only get the 8GB RAM option? Might be the problem. My mate got an M1 MBA w 8GB, and said it is sluggish if he has too many browser windows open. He was pretty annoyed about it, since when he bought it, he'd already sold his previous MBA, and the 16GB MBA's were on waitlist, so he had to either stick with it, or send it back and not be able to work*
Secondly, the battery power of the M1 in laptops is the most notable thing for most users, since most users don't even need the power of the i5/i7/i9, let alone the M1.
* I took my sweet time, waiting for the 14/16" MBP's, waited another several months to see the longer term reviews, Waited for Monterey to mature and iron out the bugs, and patiently did my research. Ended up ordering the 32GB RAM 16" M1 Pro. Chip will be overkill. RAM will be overkill, depending on how much I end up needing to use VM's. SSD will be overkill. The screen and audio will be glorious. The entire thing is overkill. Including the price ha. Due to arrive in a couple of weeks.
I see an item here or there that is out of stock briefly but nothing that could really be called “empty store shelves”.
Irrelevant. We’re talking performance. Intel 12th gen and AMD Zen 4 already curb stomp any M1 variant in the desktop space. It will get downright scary if M2 isn’t released until 2023.
You can argue that Apple makes the best laptops in the industry, if battery life is a major concern. You can even argue they make the best all-in-one, which is a niche product category.
Best performing desktop CPU? Not even close. Apple is already a DISTANT 3rd place and they will be so far behind Intel and AMD next year it will be downright comical.
For sure, but Apple still pushed it despite the next gen Qualcomm 5G modem was available shortly after just because Verizon told them to (simply watch the keynote, it’s as if Verizon sponsored it). It simply showed that Apple can be easily distracted by external parties to deliver less optimal product.
Right now, Apple Silicon is still leading, and my point was Apple usually is its own stumbling block and let the competitors catch up.
Right now, I see chasing Netflix to be the distraction, while their own core services like iCloud is getting less attention.
Let’s see what the next version of iOS and macOS bring. Will they bring actual solid OSes, or just more bugs just to show off features.
I think it’s relevant insofar that consumers don’t just care about absolute performance in a vacuum. Yes, all other things equal, people usually prefer faster speeds, but consider that desktop PCs sporting the latest intel chips tend to consume more power and be bigger, bulkier and noisier than the current Mac Studio.
Things like having a quiet environment where you can record podcasts in can matter just as much to the end user. Not to mention it being small enough to tuck underneath your monitor, allowing for a more compact setup. Factors like this don’t show up in benchmark tests, but they are tangible benefits that matter to the end user. And I believe they will go on to matter even more moving forward, as the unique properties of the M1 chips allow for custom Mac form factors that the competition simply cannot hope to mimic, because of the inherent limitations of Intel processors.
Intel has chosen to focus on one metric (raw performance) by disregarding every other consideration under the sun. It may allow for nicer-looking benchmarks and some good press on tech blogs, but I maintain it will prove to be a disservice to the people who actually buy and use their products.
They don’t have to call it ‘M1’, even if in reality it’s based on the same technology and manufacturing process.
The iPhone 12 got a higher-res OLED display, so battery life would be worse than the 11, which still had a 326PPI LCD screen.
The iPhone 13 was thicker and got a larger battery for it, so battery life would be better.
And yeah, 5g definitely doesn't help as well, but I don't turn it on in my country.
Let us not forget Apple has millions of iPhones ready for Launch Day and then quickly scales to scores of millions for Launch Quarter. Best I can find, the X60's production volume was not ready to support those volumes until 2021 (and Qualcomm themselves did not expect large volume sales to "premium smartphone OEMs" until 2021 which is code for "Apple" and the iPhone 13).
Also, Qualcomm did not even ship engineering samples to customers until late 2019 / early 2020 and the iPhone 12 would have already been fully developed in 2019 (when only the X55 was available) and in testing at that time. So even if Qualcomm could have somehow delivered millions of X60s to Apple, they would not have had time to properly integrate it into the design and test it before volume production of the phones would have been planned to start during Summer 2020.
So Apple was locked into the X55 for iPhone 12 regardless of what Verizon or other carriers wanted.
Yes, X55 for iPhone 12 vs X60 was a Qualcomm limitation. X60 was not a viable option at all.
Mind you I don't notice significant battery life issues since I use an iPhone 12 Pro Max. I may have had more complaints if I had the non-Max though.
Exactly.
M2 will use newer cores than M1.
Which cores exactly?
Who knows, but it doesn’t really matter for the marketing name.
Apple *very clearly* stated that M1Ultra was the “last chip” of the M1 family.
People really don’t pay close attention to the words Apple uses when they really should.
Apple didn’t say that the ultra was “another” chip in the M1 family.
They didn’t say it was the “next” chip in the M1 family.
They specifically and deliberately said it was the “last” chip in the M1 family.
Whatever chip they introduce next will not be titled “M1” anything.
As for skipping generations, wouldn’t be the first time because they’ve done it for their A series several times.
There was no A7X, no A11X, no A13X.
If they go from “M1pro” in 2021 straight to “M3pro” in 2023 it would be far from their most unexpected move.
As for the MacPro, given that it’s clearly going to be on a much slower upgrade cycle than literally everything else I highly doubt they’re going to call it M anything.
It’ll use its own letter, X1 or Z1 or something like that.
Nah. The battery life on the iPhone 12 Pro is perfectly fine. This is my iPhone 12 Pro from this morning. The battery health is at 88%.
Clearly someone Who didn’t understand the entire point of the transition.
Go back and watch WWDC2005 when Steve Jobs announced the Intel transition.
“It’s not about performance, it’s about performance per watt.”
Then watch WWDC2020.
It’s again the same thing, not about performance, about performance per watt.
The M1 was never, ever the fastest most powerful chip on the planet, not even the day it was announced.
That’s not even close to what’s impressive about it.
What’s impressive about it is that sticking it in the old 13 inch MacBook Pro took the battery life from something like 6 to 7 hours to more like 21 to 24 hours, dramatically decreased the amount of heat the thing used, and increased performance at the same time.
Intel and AMD still aren’t even close.
Sure you can find chips from them that are technically more powerful, but at a huge loss of a product that’s cool, calm and quiet.
I upgraded from an iPhone 8 to a 12 mini. The battery life of the 12 mini was little better than the 8 even when the 8 was new.
We already had the Peak Performance event so performance goes downhill from here.
But we can still look forward to the Ultra X 2 Fusion Bridged Octo x 4 Peak Performance Event.
Possibly June 6th.
Oh ibpI wasn't aiming this comment at anyone in particular ( the quote was just to provide a bit of context) . It was mire a general observation about the kber use of worrts to nake things seam dramatic but instead making evrything seam over hyped. I suppose wategate could have been much worse if Nixon did lik bojo does no, ie just klinging on to power for the sake if power. Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of Nixon he was terrible (imho) but at least he seand to know epwhen the game was up, but hay I could be wrong, an nixion was nit the point I must try nit to get sudetracked
