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What's the deal with people wanting that small of a phone? Don't you want decent screen real-estate?

For what? My 4" SE has decent screen real-estate for my purposes. How exactly am I missing out by not having a 5.5"+ screen?
 


I was responding to your ABSURD post that a publicly owned company (meaning FOR PROFIT, and owned by others), should... in your ridiculous opinion- forgoe profits for an entire year & sell their products at 1/2 price.
Here in reality- their many, many, many thousands of investors would be in an uproar, as buying their stock is basically “loaning them your money to hopefully grow for you”. The entire board of directors would flip out. Literally anyone remotely involved with such an insane & preposterous idea would be axed. All investor confidence would be lost. I can scarcely imagine all the ramifications- it’s simply THAT inane!!!!
The childish-thinking reason you gave of “they can afford it” was so silly I really thought you might pick up on the absurdity if I made a pretty direct comparison- like if they can afford to sell products at 1/2 price & make 0% profit for a year, should they? I dunno... should you pay double at the grocery for a year, just because you can afford it?
It was a (I thought) VERY simple thought exercise to kick in the old “critical thinking” skills!!! =)
I’m at a COMPLETE loss as to how to to you the simplicity was lost, & it came across as some confusing idea or “gibberish”, lol.
If you don’t get it now- I genuinely give up!
Your “idea” was a self-serving pipe dream, in no way steeped in feasibility or reality.
The end.
 
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How does that not give the appearance of a budget device? One is free, the other is $15 x 24 or more months. Lol

The carrier could technically provide both the SE and 4.7” 8 for free, however I suspect people will gravitate to the 8, due to more features and enhancements. Had the only differentiation factor being size, that would be interesting. I suspect the 8 may be subsidizing the SE. However this all depends on the carrier as some are offering the 8 for free on a 24 month contract, I presume SE is not worth their time unfortunately.
 
is anybody but me bothered that smartphones such as the Apple line are getting bigger all the time? They're getting clumsy, harder to hold comfortably. A woman can always drop a large one in her purse, but it's not so easy for a man. Either you have to be lucky enough to have a pocket big enough to hold it or carry an awkwardly large holster. Are customers really screaming for bigger and bigger phones and I've happened to miss their shouting, or this is some self-indulgent enthusiasm of design teams? I'm not sure of the correct answer, but I would be anything but surprised to find out it's the latter. My iPhone X is as big as I'm willing to go, I could comfortably go ago back to my smaller iPhone 8 or probably even earlier models. I certainly wouldn't want anything bigger.

And, of course, if Apple keeps screwing around with dimensions this causes a cascade of secondary problems. Every time I upgrade I have to worry about buying a new protective case or even battery case, a docking or recharging system that works with it, and so forth, and sometimes this adds considerably to the total cost of an upgrade.

This time around, the new iPhones are going to be appreciably bigger. I've yet to hear of ways in which they are sufficiently better to justify yet another upgrade. I've decided to stick to the one I have now until Apple offers me what seems like a significant improvement in function or usefulness, not just a change for change's sake.

This time around the Reality Distortion Field is going to have to work overtime.
I get your feelings of bigger phones. But thats what consumers want. You also have to take into consideration that these new iPhones will be bigger screen, but virtually no bezels.
 
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I think someone could be in trouble for that leak. I'm sure they could pinpoint where the leak came from, and maybe who was sitting near that spot.
 
I was responding to your ABSURD post that a publicly owned company (meaning FOR PROFIT, and owned by others), should... in your ridiculous opinion- forgoe profits for an entire year & sell their products at 1/2 price.
Here in reality- their many, many, many thousands of investors would be in an uproar, as buying their stock is basically “loaning them your money to hopefully grow for you”. The entire board of directors would flip out. Literally anyone remotely involved with such an insane & preposterous idea would be axed. All investor confidence would be lost. I can scarcely imagine all the ramifications- it’s simply THAT inane!!!!
The childish-thinking reason you gave of “they can afford it” was so silly I really thought you might pick up on the absurdity if I made a pretty direct comparison- like if they can afford to sell products at 1/2 price & make 0% profit for a year, should they? I dunno... should you pay double at the grocery for a year, just because you can afford it?
It was a (I thought) VERY simple thought exercise to kick in the old “critical thinking” skills!!! =)
I’m at a COMPLETE loss as to how to to you the simplicity was lost, & it came across as some confusing idea or “gibberish”, lol.
If you don’t get it now- I genuinely give up!
Your “idea” was a self-serving pipe dream, in no way steeped in feasibility or reality.
The end.

Thank you for your long-winded response just to provide your unfounded views.

If you were truly another fanboy, you’d know that their units cost Apple approx £250, thus meaning, they already are in profit if they sell their products at my suggested price. In any case, your outbursts are not justified for my thoughts. If you wish, you may respond, however please be respectful in all your replies. Thanking you!
 
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These naming conventions are getting a tad ridiculous and reek of "what the hell are we doing?". Did they not sit down many years ago and nut out a scenario of how they may name these devices as the iPhone family tree thickened? You know, one that kinda made sense?

This year it is the XS
Next year it will be called the SUR+
 
Thank you for your long-winded response just to provide your unfounded views.

If you were truly another fanboy, you’d know that their units cost Apple approx £250, thus meaning, they already are in profit if they sell their products at my suggested price. In any case, your outbursts are not justified for my thoughts. If you wish, you may respond, however please be respectful in all your replies. Thanking you!


The current net profit margin for Apple as of June 30, 2018 is 21.98%, unless they’ve been lying & fudging numbers against themselves at shareholder meetings, lol. Second, again- unfathomable fallout! For example: say your wildly impossible & unfeasible pipe dream came to pass. Soooo then, the year after- consumers wouldn’t mind paying double what they did the year before?? Lol. They’d be forced to give iPhones away essentially free forever.
Your “idea” was the musings of a childlike thinking... in no way rooted in reality.
They can AFFORD (in the adult sense of the word- as in, lower a price & still stay in business) a particular amount... which it sounds like they’re doing this year!
Looking forward to the “entry-level” iPhone X this year being sold at $700, that’s 30% cheaper than last years & it’ll even have a bigger screen and faster processor! =)
I don’t expect something for nothing, or for companies to operate at 0% profit.... you know, because I’m realistic.
My views are FAR from unfounded, that’s why what I’m imagining is actually coming to pass- whereas your wishful thinking of Apple giving their products away to you at cost- quite simply, isn’t!
That’s as “respectful” of a response as I can muster...
I suppose we can all sit here & loudly state that Apple “should” give away AirPods & wireless chargers, etc, etc... (trust me, I’ve heard it all!), but since it’s ridiculous & not going to happen- I truly don’t see the point... unless you genuinely like reaching as much as you possibly can, in an effort to find something to be mad about. =/
 
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Thank you for your long-winded response just to provide your unfounded views.

If you were truly another fanboy, you’d know that their units cost Apple approx £250, thus meaning, they already are in profit if they sell their products at my suggested price. In any case, your outbursts are not justified for my thoughts. If you wish, you may respond, however please be respectful in all your replies. Thanking you!

What about the millions they spend in R&D? Design and create machines to build their devices? iOS software development? Packaging and shipping?

I'm taking a wild guess here, but I also guess the top execs at Apple are on more than minimum wage.

A single iPhone doesn't cost Apple £250.
 
What about the millions they spend in R&D? Design and create machines to build their devices? iOS software development? Packaging and shipping?

I'm taking a wild guess here, but I also guess the top execs at Apple are on more than minimum wage.

A single iPhone doesn't cost Apple £250.
R&D inclusive, costs Apple £250.
 
YouTube and google.

I can’t remember the url of the video or google but If I find the links, I’ll edit my post.

Are you as excited for tomorrow as I? I’m going to buy the most specked up iPhone (whatever it’s gonna be called) and the Apple Watch.
 
Because it’s not nearly just a cell phone and some people have disposable income?

2 questions:
1). What does the $1000 phone do that the $120 phone doesn’t that makes it “not nearly just a cell phone?” I mean I’m not comparing a flip phone to an iPhone.
2). When you say disposable, you mean just throwing money away?

I mean I have cash to use on other things. In fact I have about $880 to use on other things at this point.
 
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2 questions:
1). What does the $1000 phone do that the $120 phone doesn’t that makes it “not nearly just a cell phone?” I mean I’m not comparing a flip phone to an iPhone.
2). When you say disposable, you mean just throwing money away?

I mean I have cash to use on other things. In fact I have about $880 to use on other things at this point.
1) iOS...works with my other Apple devices flawlessly.
2) Security and Support.
3) Better cameras than the $120 phone, literally replaces my camera in most situations and does so admirably.
4) Speed, ease of use, longevity

Let’s not act like $120 Androids compete with an iPhone X in any real way. It’s like saying a Kia is 99% a BMW because it’s transportation on 4 wheels. Sure, you can find a touchscreen phone that runs Android, surfs the web, and checks mail...but it doesn’t do it like an iPhone and that’s worth $800 more for me. $800 isn’t really a big deal even if it just replaces my DSLR.

You might make an argument that a higher end Android phone starts to compete with iPhone from a hardware perspective, but then you’re spending $500-$1000+ anyway and it runs Android...I don’t want Android.
 
1) iOS...works with my other Apple devices flawlessly.
2) Security and Support.
3) Better cameras than the $120 phone, literally replaces my camera in most situations and does so admirably.
4) Speed, ease of use, longevity

Let’s not act like $120 Androids compete with an iPhone X in any real way. It’s like saying a Kia is 99% a BMW because it’s transportation on 4 wheels. Sure, you can find a touchscreen phone that runs Android, surfs the web, and checks mail...but it doesn’t do it like an iPhone and that’s worth $800 more for me. $800 isn’t really a big deal even if it just replaces my DSLR.

You might make an argument that a higher end Android phone starts to compete with iPhone from a hardware perspective, but then you’re spending $500-$1000+ anyway and it runs Android...I don’t want Android.
You’re aren’t very good at this making a point thing. The first thing you need to do is read. I’m talking about a $120 iPhone SE. so points 1,2,4 are completely useless. The camera point is negligible. While I don’t have portrait, or bokeh effect, I don’t need it. My phone takes great pictures. That isn’t worth $880 to me. But since you didn’t read my post and added a bunch of points that were useless, I’ll go ahead and accept your apology. Thanks!
 
You’re aren’t very good at this making a point thing. The first thing you need to do is read. I’m talking about a $120 iPhone SE. so points 1,2,4 are completely useless. The camera point is negligible. While I don’t have portrait, or bokeh effect, I don’t need it. My phone takes great pictures. That isn’t worth $880 to me. But since you didn’t read my post and added a bunch of points that were useless, I’ll go ahead and accept your apology. Thanks!
My point wasn't just a response to you...there have been many others touting the cheaper Android models as alternatives.
 
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