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Alleged iOS 18 Design Resource Reveals visionOS-Like Redesign [Updated]
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Those are issues for you. I do wish we could edit them but for the lost part 9 out of 10 I have no issue with App Library.
For the longest time I mainly only used app Livfseh because I despised the ideas of android like widgets on iOS but I don’t hate widgets as much nowadays. Or I tolerate them now.
For example I was flying back from Tokyo. I literally went to App Library and took a moment to browse through what games or streaming app I had. Some I forgot but was thankful for App Library reminding me about.
I also can use search in tandem with App Library. More control would be nice but
Infinite scroll is a nightmare and let it stay with android. As I said, I and many others are fine with iOS as it is.
To be fair, people in their 60s now were in their 20s and 30s when the tech revolution hit. There’s no reason why a grandmother wouldn’t know how to place widgets on their phone. Getting older doesn‘t mean getting stupider. I know. Massive news.
I don't think it's going to happen. On VisionOS it makes sense because the interface has to use virtual materials that adapt to surrounding light so you remain spatially aware. Other OSes also have translucent "materials" but they're only used in places where maintaining similar spatial awareness in the 2D interface is important. You don't want to feel like the app you're in has closed when you open the Control Center, and that's why you can see through the material that your app is "below". Something like this doesn't align with the philosophies Apple has about it and they tend to stick to those.
Plus it looks like low-hanging fruit, the type of fan mockup someone does as a concept for a "VisionOS-style iOS redesign", it's not creative.
Plus it looks like low-hanging fruit, the type of fan mockup someone does as a concept for a "VisionOS-style iOS redesign", it's not creative.
That's more of a browser/developer limitation than anything else. This type of feature is not inherently memory-intensive.
As I mentioned above, it couldn't truly be "infinite scrolling" since you would presumably have a finite number of apps installed on your device.
It’s not “stupid” to not live tech.
I have both my parents (early/mid 60’s) on iPads because they’ve never been “computer people”. Neither will ever use a widget, as they have no need. It’s web browser, email, and a few fire department scanner apps, and much to my dismay a couple social media apps between the both of them and that’s all they need 🤷♂️
For comparison, I have to go over to their house every 90 days to walk my mom through changing her work computer password and there’s a VPN involved. It doesn’t matter that it’s the same process ever. single. time. The concept of “computers” simply doesn’t click in some people’s minds.
Even what we think of as basic terminology is beyond people who have no interest in tech.
I just had a talk with my manager yesterday when he suggested that we inform users to pin our VPN to the taskbar. I had to explain to him how often I’m met with blank stares when I say “taskbar” or “tray icons”.
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With pagination you dont have to remember, thats half the point.
you clearly have more time to spend organizing your phone's screen than I do.
Work apps in one folder, commonly used on a page, rest can live in the App Library.
I’ve never personally been app-heavy. I think I have like 20 third party ones installed, and half are for work?
I stopped customization around the same time I stopped jailbreaking and tweaking, don’t have the time or interest anymore.
This more or less is a repeat of the same rumor discussion regarding VisionOS would serve as a model for the future for other OS's. Except it's not practical to implement and much harder to relearn every time Apple adds features or changes the interface.
No one claimed there wasn’t. In fact age has nothing to do with it, I know plenty of millennials and younger that USE tech every day, but couldn’t tell you what RAM is.
There’s tech people, and then the vast majority of humanity are not. They have other interests.
Visual recall is literally a form of remembering to which you argued is a plus on pagination. LOL
I'm moving on. This is ridiculous.
Clearly not considering it's so difficult to organize large widgets with app icons on pagination.
It kinda is since infinite scrolling is generally accepted as a dumb feature for a smart phone Home Screen. Pages of apps, the App Library, folders, whatever. They may not be ideal for everyone but the consensus is strongly against infinite scrolling.
I assume that’s sarcasm since I’ve had no problem configuring my phone with a mix of widgets, apps and folders on separate pages. Why would that be difficult?
No one but you when you generalized all “grandmothers” as people not generally tech savvy enough to do simple things on an iPhone.
Android 12 sent all that extra stuff to **** to be fair, I hope you're saying this because you tried the pixel 5 when on android 11.. currently iOS is 10 times more space efficient than android in representing data.
Agreed. Spotlight is super useful. Pulls up needed results in 2-3 characters. App library is a complete mess and utter failure. There needs to be some sort of customization for what goes where.
I'm not sure where you're getting that from. There's a ton of empty space in ios. Most notably, the space above the dock. You van just change launchers or customize your current launcher in android. Jam as much or as little crap in there as you want.
With a little luck, there won’t be the “beauty” difference that there is between iOS 6 and 7. The former is beautiful, the latter... well, tolerable. I’d go back to a skeuomorphic design tomorrow if I could.
Interestingly, I doubt I’d update anyway, but I would probably want to infinitely more than I do now.
Interestingly, I doubt I’d update anyway, but I would probably want to infinitely more than I do now.
you are confusing remembering with reminding.
Anyway as I said you loose SPATIAL location with infinite scroll. This is a HUGE part of Apple UI. If you have infinte scroll things move. There for things you need to click on are, at different times, in different places. (and you need to perform different actions to locate them == inconsistant behaviour) This is TERRIBLE UI. Paginated pages do not move the content, it is always in the same spatial location. This is a HUGE deal. You may not see it or appreciate it, but that does not mean everybody else is as ignorant.
I'm getting that from the extended QS panel with barely 8 buttons despite covering the entire screen, when on iOS you get ~20 buttons. the entire UI is extremely goofy, I hope you can see that. android 11 and earlies used to be wayy better in this regard. one button on stock android is three in iOS, it's as if it was done for people with a vision impairment