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Who cares really about NFC. It's going to continue to flop

But when APPLE does it, it's going to be MAGICAL and REVOLUTIONARY... :rolleyes:

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This thread needs the let's party pic of the parts!

Yeah, that one was pretty sweet!

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I've never used a passcode to unlock my phone but even I would appreciate the added security of a fingerprint sensor to unlock.

Yeah, especially for NFC payments...
 
Unless plastic, nfc will have a hard time with metal..... Maybe they will release a cover/accesory and call it a day so people stop asking for it.

Oh lord Jesus you said that like you actually know what you're talking about, unfortunately you don't. First, the front and the back of my iPhone is glass. NFC can transmit 6 inches, possibly more. Even if my phone where metal it would have little to no effect on NFC transmitting through the phone. We NFC requesters don't want a "cover" we want it integrated and it is possible with very little overhead.
 
Nottingham must be even duller than I remember, that you bothered to reply to a thread that you find ever so boring.
I am not sure what people expect, the s version of any previous iPhone was just a slight upgrade. It is not going to be very exciting, but for some people it will be enough reason to upgrade as usual.
You know, I've been an Apple user for 12+ years. I've just switched to Windows Mobile 8 and I'm loving it ... and having seen this post, it's really brought it home just how sad Apple sheep are ... I mean, WTF ... what sad individuals really get excited about this **** ... Boring internals to a phone that'll be no different to the last all but a few internal tweaks. Yawn yawn yawn!!!
 
First comment: OMG NO FINGERPRINT SENSORZ?! NO BUY

Second comment: Teh Applez haz lost innovations!

Third comment: BETTER HAVEZ BIGGER SCREENZ PLZ

Fourth comment: Shamsung here i cum these flex cables r not innovative enuff!

Fifth comment (probably from AppleJuiced or someone): You're all idiots.

Sixth comment: APPLEZ IS DOOMED; DRIOD SO MANY NEW FEATUREZ AND INNOVATIVESION

Makes me laugh. I think Apple is the one that has lost innovation. My HP iPaq from the early 2000's had a finger print scanner to unlock. Now that I mention it, iPaq kinda sounds a lot like iPad. Let the lawsuits begin. :D
 
Doesn't this point to a bigger screen? I mean maybe the cable could be folded but with the connector facing down I wouldn't have thought so.

Admittedly the button sensor could be smaller but I've mocked it up with a guessed reasonable size.
 

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Oh lord Jesus you said that like you actually know what you're talking about, unfortunately you don't. First, the front and the back of my iPhone is glass. NFC can transmit 6 inches, possibly more. Even if my phone where metal it would have little to no effect on NFC transmitting through the phone. We NFC requesters don't want a "cover" we want it integrated and it is possible with very little overhead.

Sure buddy :rolleyes:
 
Am I the only one that thinks Apple needs to have something big in store now that their competitors are actually threats? Apple's stock has dropped over 35% in as little as 5 months and it's continuing to drop. I have no loyalty to any company, I just want to see the free market work its magic for the consumers.
 
Unless plastic, nfc will have a hard time with metal..... Maybe they will release a cover/accesory and call it a day so people stop asking for it.

Your claim got me curious, so I did a bit of cursory investigation, finding out it aint actually so.

Not according to this article from intechopen.com

1. Introduction
Whereas passive wireless communication in the Ultra High Frequency (UHF) domain features long ranges of several meters in free space, systems utilizing lower frequencies in the ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) to HF (High Frequency) domain can be advantageous in environ- ments with conductive materials or where large antennas are not prohibitive. Additionally, the operation range is well defined and can be practically restricted to several centimeters like in Near Field Communication (NFC) Standard ECMA-340 Near Field Communication Interface and Protocol (NFCIP-2) (2003), although this does not necessarily mean that communication is secure Hancke (2008).
In this chapter we investigate passive wireless devices in the frequency range from almost DC to tens of Megahertz, i.e. from the ELF to the HF domain.

The basic principle of such mainly inductively coupled systems is shown in Figure 1. A pri- mary coil of the reader generates an alternating magnetic field and induces a voltage in the coil antenna of the wireless device. The primary coil is connected to a diplexer that carries out frequency separation between the power supply path and the data path. The alternat- ing magnetic field may penetrate layers of air, liquids (e.g. water) or layers of stainless steel and other weak conductors and will then induce a voltage in the coil antenna of the wireless device.

Here comes the kicker!

3.1 Environmental Influences
One of the major concerns for passive wireless communication is the reliability of the wire- less link in the vicinity of conductive or strongly dielectric materials. In this section we will show that the use of low frequencies even permits communication through metal walls of e.g. several millimeters of stainless steel Zangl et al. (2008). Thus, a sensor can be placed inside of tanks without the need for cables or batteries.

So it will pass through several millimetres of stainless steel.
 
Why are you comparing a high end smartphone with a tablet?

:rolleyes:

I don't understand the larger screen - TOO BIG logic in general. It's like you have all these people on here talking about how much more portable the iPad Mini is, and how they can carry it around with them wherever they go.

...but throw a cell radio into the thing, and suddenly it's the stupidest idea in the world. Who wants to carry around something that big?
 
Not sure which one will be more boring.

The actual keynote or the phone.

Was looking through the iPhone 4S keynote...god, there was no excitement at all.
 
Bigger screen (at least as big as the s3) and a shiny new UI or I'm bailing to Android until Apple gets it's **** together. I guess I'm no loyalist...I buy what is most interesting to me at the time. The iPhone is stale.
 
I think you need to go back to school and learn the English language. "innovativesion"????? That's not a word.

If you want malware and less quality apps, plus long waiting time for bug fixes, go right ahead and get and Android. The average mentality of an Android user doesn't have a college education and is either a teenager or in their 20's. More mature people with a college degree and money buy iPhones. Apple will release fingerprint ID when it's ready. Is it going to be ready with the next release? Probably a 75% chance. Will they have a bigger screen? Maybe. People know they are working on one, but nothing has surfaced. I've heard that the larger screen might not be released with the iPhone 5S (if that's what they are going to call it). They will PROBABLY release an iPhone 5 update first and maybe a larger screen either at the same time or at a later date. Everything IS speculation. Until they actually release the final product. I would count on them releasing a larger screen version soon, but if they do, great. If not, we'll just have to wait a little longer.

They aren't saying that Flex cables are an innovation, they are just simply mentioning that these are Flex cable parts.

As far as innovation? What? Adding useless features? Most of the Android features are not useful, only a couple of them are. Most of their features are kind of dumb and you'll probably end up not using them.

Bottom line, most Enterprise Customers, Educational Institutions are going with iPhones than Android. For a couple of reasons. Security, reliability, ease of use, quality and quantity of app, quality of support, build quality.

Apple has not lost their ability to innovate. If you think they have, then you'll get shown otherwise. The iPhone, iPad devices are innovations in themselves, and they, like everyone else, is updating the devices to add new features, design changes, component improvements. Apple is always going to come out with later processor designs, screen designs, and other chip designs as they are released to the market. Screen size is and never was an innovation, it's the size of the screen. Apple needs to make sure that when they release a screen size change, that there's enough demand for it as they have to recoup the R&D and production costs. So far, the larger screen models aren't really selling as well as the 4 inch model. But more people do want a larger screen size, but Apple STILL has lots of demand for even the 3.5 inch screen size. I personally think Apple should offer three screen sizes for their top end models and let the consumer choose which size they want, but Apple has to decide if/when they will offer more than one screen size flagship product.

Maybe when you get older, you'll understand my comments. Kids are often easily manipulated because their brains aren't fully developed. But more business professionals are leaning toward iPhones regardless of the screen size.

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This is the worst post in the history of this forum. Not only did you go out of your way to sound like a total anus, but how could you not tell monkor was joking? Please learn to use the Internet.
 
I honestly think their may be something going on that we don't know of yet. It just seems odd that Apple has the iPhone 5 with only a 2 pin connection but this one is showing 10 pins. Like others have said it just seems odd that such a simple button has that many pins.

I/we may be looking too much into this but it really does make me wonder, is there something we are not seeing? What's the change for?
 
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