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Alleged iPhone 7 Plus Geekbench Results Reveal 2.37 GHz Dual-Core A10 Chip, 3GB of RAM [Updated: Fake]
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Sep 2012 was when iPhone gained 1 GB RAM, which doubled to 2 GB in 2015; 3 years. Or, you know, centuries in MacRumors-time. MR: the bastion of all knowledge and truth.
Those are impressive scores! Now I really hope Apple do something about iOS!
iOS is the only limiting factor right now. With performance like this, running multiple apps like this should not be problems. Yet Applemonly restricted to 2 at time.
It is time for Applw to put full desktop OS into iPad now.
iOS is the only limiting factor right now. With performance like this, running multiple apps like this should not be problems. Yet Applemonly restricted to 2 at time.
It is time for Applw to put full desktop OS into iPad now.
[QUOTE="wizard, post: 23218356, member: 17274".]. Lets hope this performance doesn't come at the expense of battery life.[/QUOTE]
I have a feeling it will be the other way around. Great performance, average or below average battery life. However we are a month away for unveil. Performance has never been compromised when talking about any Apple product. Android products on the otherhand have top performance on paper but not so much in real life. I believe it is the onePlus 3 that has an octo-core CPU with 6GB of RAM and had terrible performance. Apple may not put the latest and greatest android phones have, but it's optimized everywhere
I have a feeling it will be the other way around. Great performance, average or below average battery life. However we are a month away for unveil. Performance has never been compromised when talking about any Apple product. Android products on the otherhand have top performance on paper but not so much in real life. I believe it is the onePlus 3 that has an octo-core CPU with 6GB of RAM and had terrible performance. Apple may not put the latest and greatest android phones have, but it's optimized everywhere
Yes! This has been gone over again and again but you know something you don't have to listen to us if you don't believe us, just look at when Intel has released specific chip revisions. For the MBP you will find that they just released the chip suitable for the MBP about a month ago.
That is just the Intel chip, it doesn't include everything else that needs to run on the new machines. Consider for example 14nm mobile GPU's which have yet to surface or ship in volume.
By the way this doesn't mean that Apple can't do better, just act some of the whining heard over 2016 is a bit uninformed.
There was Windows RT and that was EOLed because people didn't care about it.
Is all that stuff (TB3, USB 3.1, 14nm processes, better iGPUs) on Intel's roadmap?
Apple seems to want different stuff than all the other PC OEMs.
And like I said in post #43... I don't think Intel is gonna jump through hoops to please a low-volume client like Apple.
If Apple is waiting on Intel to make the perfect Skylake chip for the MacBook Pro... fine.
But if Apple is only gonna order 500,000 units from Intel... I can see why Intel isn't making it a high-priority.
Intel is a business... and they have to go where the money is.
And with the 10-nano reduction coming next year, and further optimization of CPUs and surrounding infrastructure, it is a countdown to when Apple finally ditches Intel in Macs and makes their desktops and laptops become A-xx centric computers. (And the power of the 7-nm reduction will be even more amazing)
People will squeal about it. I'll squeal about it. But it is inevitable. I'd expect it on/by 2020.
They will probably still make a limited line of Intel Macs for a while afterward. Once the software functions get displaced on the new platform, the Intel stuff will disappear.
People will squeal about it. I'll squeal about it. But it is inevitable. I'd expect it on/by 2020.
They will probably still make a limited line of Intel Macs for a while afterward. Once the software functions get displaced on the new platform, the Intel stuff will disappear.
True, but mainly because it couldn't run Windows applications either natively or through an x86 emulator. It was a terrible idea by Microsoft. Possibly one of the worst decisions they've made in the last decade.
WOW if that's true, it should be a beast. With that performance in an ARM chip, I would be so surprised if they didn't put that into a laptop and ported OSX for it. Sorry I mean Mac OS
I'd be absolutely shocked if Apple doesn't have full Mac OS running on ARM in their labs right now, a la project "Marklar". That's the secret x86 version of OS X that they were developing while selling Power PC macs back in the day.
Warning: This post will be a rant
I don't care about this score at all. It is well known, since like forever, that Apple has by fair the best engineers of the tech industry, be it how the iPhone's hardware performs, to Safari's javascript performance on iOS, to do something as massive/almost impossible as start a maps service from the ground up, to the amazing transition to lightning and how great it has been, to how great iOS security really is (check blackhat.com) and so on, not to mention the platform's strength.
What pisses me off is lack of balance. As a company, Apple also has perhaps the best people of the whole industry. From design, to marketing to operations. The issue is that when Steve was alive, there was this balance, that put those talents on a fantastic equilibrium.
Now we have the best bean counter on the planet, a cold hearted SOB that could bring a supply chain worth in the trillions to its knees, as a CEO. We have the best, most "sensitive" designer on the planet going ape sh*t without Steve being there to tame him, and the marketing "guy" spreading all the BS he wants too. (16 GB is enough! We do it for the people!)
That's why the products are missing something. At this point, due to economies of scale, the cost of putting 3GB of RAM instead of 4 is peanuts, and due to Apple's scale, costs would've come down even faster. So, why does it has 3 GB instead of 4 or, god forbid, using that cash to something useful as cornering the industry's 6 GB chips, as Apple used to?
Why is basic memory still a crippling 16 GB?
The talent and innovation is all there, stronger then ever. Apple's talent was able to create and ship the fastest performing storage solution on any mobile device (fact: check any benchmarks that measures more than 1 channel). Apple's talent made the iPhone out-perform pretty much all Android flagship's multitasking, despite having a fraction of the available RAM. The A9 and A9X are outstanding achievements. The latest note 7, the same phone as the s7 under a different name for a higher price (that the usual suspects are praising as innovative, astroturfing and ignorance into one) already is surpassed on any real task and performance that simulates real world usage against the 6s.
This is why people saying that Apple has run out of talent and ideas are full of BS and can't grasp the obvious.
The issue is with balance (or lack of). Who decides to ship the device with so little storage and RAM? Who decides to keep going with TN Panels on the MBAir? Who decides to use spinning hard drives on machines costing hundreds of dollars? Who decides to keep selling computers that aren't updated since 2012?
Not the talent. So, yeah. Who cares that the A10 might be 50% faster than the A9, if the vast majority of iPhone users are always running out of space and can't install any big, powerful demanding app without compromising?
What is urgent, what Apple needs is: They either increase the power of the talent, by putting someone as Craig (he's a friggin rockstar of software!) as king/CEO, or Cook returns to COO and a more neutral part goes as CEO.
Keyword: Balance.
Sorry for the long post.
I don't care about this score at all. It is well known, since like forever, that Apple has by fair the best engineers of the tech industry, be it how the iPhone's hardware performs, to Safari's javascript performance on iOS, to do something as massive/almost impossible as start a maps service from the ground up, to the amazing transition to lightning and how great it has been, to how great iOS security really is (check blackhat.com) and so on, not to mention the platform's strength.
What pisses me off is lack of balance. As a company, Apple also has perhaps the best people of the whole industry. From design, to marketing to operations. The issue is that when Steve was alive, there was this balance, that put those talents on a fantastic equilibrium.
Now we have the best bean counter on the planet, a cold hearted SOB that could bring a supply chain worth in the trillions to its knees, as a CEO. We have the best, most "sensitive" designer on the planet going ape sh*t without Steve being there to tame him, and the marketing "guy" spreading all the BS he wants too. (16 GB is enough! We do it for the people!)
That's why the products are missing something. At this point, due to economies of scale, the cost of putting 3GB of RAM instead of 4 is peanuts, and due to Apple's scale, costs would've come down even faster. So, why does it has 3 GB instead of 4 or, god forbid, using that cash to something useful as cornering the industry's 6 GB chips, as Apple used to?
Why is basic memory still a crippling 16 GB?
The talent and innovation is all there, stronger then ever. Apple's talent was able to create and ship the fastest performing storage solution on any mobile device (fact: check any benchmarks that measures more than 1 channel). Apple's talent made the iPhone out-perform pretty much all Android flagship's multitasking, despite having a fraction of the available RAM. The A9 and A9X are outstanding achievements. The latest note 7, the same phone as the s7 under a different name for a higher price (that the usual suspects are praising as innovative, astroturfing and ignorance into one) already is surpassed on any real task and performance that simulates real world usage against the 6s.
This is why people saying that Apple has run out of talent and ideas are full of BS and can't grasp the obvious.
The issue is with balance (or lack of). Who decides to ship the device with so little storage and RAM? Who decides to keep going with TN Panels on the MBAir? Who decides to use spinning hard drives on machines costing hundreds of dollars? Who decides to keep selling computers that aren't updated since 2012?
Not the talent. So, yeah. Who cares that the A10 might be 50% faster than the A9, if the vast majority of iPhone users are always running out of space and can't install any big, powerful demanding app without compromising?
What is urgent, what Apple needs is: They either increase the power of the talent, by putting someone as Craig (he's a friggin rockstar of software!) as king/CEO, or Cook returns to COO and a more neutral part goes as CEO.
Keyword: Balance.
Sorry for the long post.
Jeez, not this uninformed argument again.
Name a mobile Intel chip currently shipping that is more powerful than the top end i7-4980HQ 2.8GHz in the 15" rMBP. The only one I can think of is i7-5950HQ and even that isn't much more powerful by even a mild margin. Practically identical in performance to be honest.
The Xeon E3-1545M isn't any better.
So come on: what chips should Apple be shipping?
Serious question. What the hell are people doing with their phones where the iPhone 6 is not powerful enough? Is this a spec bump just for the sake of a spec bump?
It is time for iOS pro or PadOS. This will be beginning of the merger between macos and iOS.
There will be a time iOS pro or PadOS will be the same under the hood as MacOs.
The only difference will be the gui, depending on which device you' ll be using and in which way you' ll operate the os( touchscreen, trackpad, mouse, keyboard, pencil, etc)
There will be a time iOS pro or PadOS will be the same under the hood as MacOs.
The only difference will be the gui, depending on which device you' ll be using and in which way you' ll operate the os( touchscreen, trackpad, mouse, keyboard, pencil, etc)
I thought Apple is reserving 2K AMOLED screen for 2017 iPhones. That suppose a big thing for iPhone, but 2K has been on Android phone since 2014.
Beside powerful chip that OS and Apps cannot take advantage of, iPhone is lacking behind everything. A10 is more or less than marketing gimmick for now.
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That is what I want. I want able to run calculator, safari, YouTube and office document at same time.
I will help you with this, since you have absolutely no clue of what those results mean:
- If you live in North America, the Galaxy s7 scores lower than the Galaxy s6 on multicore performance. Fact.
Why? Because by itself, maximum multicore performance is meaningless on any real world application of any Android device. Why? Because they don't have the engineering chops (and the right software isn't on Android too, but that's something else), and pretty much all Android devices suffer from aggressive throttling (ones more than others, but besides the iPhone they all do) and can't sustain anything close to those numbers at all. They weren't designed for that. They were designed for short bursts on some cores while others stay idle.
On the other hand, the iPhone just kills it task after task after task, even if it means working at 100% for longer periods of time. Apple has by far the best solution. (check Anandtech or ARS for more about the subject.). Also, most tasks still depend on single core ooommmph.
We already can...it's call Windows Phone 10. Prime example is the Lumia 950 and 950XL w/Display Dock. Even runs MS Office apps where you can start work on your phone screen and then hand off to a desktop monitor/keyboard/mouse and the apps re-scale for the larger desktop screen while everything runs from the phone.
And why wouldn't apps be able to take advantage of it? have you seen comparisons from android phones in opening and closing apps in the 6s? Speedier opening and closing will be gained from this...
Marketing gimmick how? This isn't an eye unlocking gimmick...
Faster than current MacBook - MacBook Air and almost matched the MacBook Pro. So pathetic for Mac lineup.
Now that's impressive! Facebook is going to load 2µS faster, this is a game changer. I can't STAND that lag, it really slows down my day.