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Exactly. Why go back? This is what you guys call change? A comeback of old design every couple of years?

Im sorry but Change for change’s sake is a recipe for disaster.

Unless it offers me something or some reason that the dock is this flat design i dont want to use it. I actually hate it.
 
The removed photos:
Blurry photos. This is real.

Thanks! From the other photo, I was bummed about the 2D Dock, but it actually doesn't look that bad in those photos. It's not completely flat.

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Were you reminding yourself of this in the Tiger days? Because it's essentially the same style...

I genuinely can't wait to have this Dock on my screen. My first Mac was around 2004/5, and the 2D Dock back then was much smarter; it allowed you to focus on your work. The 3D version was a step back because all it did was add eye candy, and for no reason other than to make the icons appear to be in a lifelike space.

You could have disabled the 3D Dock, you know… I'm willing to bet that you cannot enable the 3D Dock in 10.10.

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OS X update has never effected positively older hardware.

No, Snow Leopard (after 10.6.3 I think) was faster than Leopard on my 2006 iMac that shipped with Tiger, and Mountain Lion was a lot faster than Lion. Then Mavericks ****ed everything up. I still consider Snow Leopard the fastest Mac OS X for Intel Macs.
 
I have an old MBP, that used to run a bit slow, now is virtually useless with Mavericks, despite the fact I've gained nothing but Finder tabs and supposedly better memory management. Face it guys, they saw the 2 year upgrade cycle of phones, and wanted to apply it to more expensive hardware.

Same exact experience here. I'm downgrading once I find the time. Oh yeah, and Mavericks removed more features than it added. No more colored labels, for one. Finder tabs are hardly useful, especially when they LAG LIKE POOP.
 
It looks real, and it looks awful. This gratuitous homogenisation of the UI between devices is like, neurotic. And everything's got to be flat because, Ive says so. Any UI appearance which is actually useful to give a visual cue or an affordance prompt as to function is now deemed "skeuomorphic" and banned. Yech.

What amazes me is how silent all those naysayers were at the suggestion that Apple will relentlessly continue to merge iOS and OSX until OSX is just as UGLY and HORRIBLE as iOS. First the App Store for Mac appears and then Gatekeeper appears and it's like, "No, that doesn't mean they're pushing to move ALL software to the App software so Apple can get a 30% cut of everything ever made." Yeah, RIGHT. Johnny Five is working hard to make it a reality for Tim Cook, whose only "creativity" is in selecting people who are BLIND to design the next generation version of OSX. Buy Beats and add some high profile rappers to the mix and I think you can see that OSX is being prepped to become a mass market APPLIANCE not an open computer system. Apple was never big on options, which we assumed was Steve Jobs doing, but I'm starting to think that a RIGID way of thinking was the ONLY reason he chose Tim Cook to replace him. I can just see Tim on one knee vowing to uphold the slim/gaunt/rigid code of the Jobs. The trouble is that Tim doesn't have the innovative qualities that saved Jobs from being a total disaster of a dictator.

But car companies copy each other constantly and apparently so do computer companies. Most real computer fans despise Google's web based computers but that seems to be the thing everyone else is copying right down to the horrible Chrome "look". I had to install multiple add-ons (classic theme restorer, the add-on bar and an updated Noia, plus a fix for Forecast Fox) just to make Firefox NOT look like Chrome anymore and look like the browser I've been using for over half a decade now (and earlier incarnations of Firefox/Mozilla before that). WTF should a couple of people get to decide how EVERYONE's computer looks, functions and what software you're allowed to run? People have worried about the movie 1984 becoming true for decades now, but somehow they seem to miss the fact that private companies are accomplishing what the government never quite could (well the NSA has done a pretty good job).

It's a darn shame that Linux is a fractured POS. They have their own battles (e.g. Gnome going dictator and ignoring ALL feedback and pushing their vision instead of what people wanted and now it's in danger of imploding entirely. I can see Apple must take cues from open source after all.... ) Worse yet, if Linux were (ironically) LESS fractured with combined/compatible open STANDARDS, they might have had a shot at getting real/commercial software for the platform. Instead, they have spent the past 20 years with competing standards for EVERYTHING. You have to get software that is compiled for your flavor of Linux. The problem is all those flavors have a tiny user base and so instead of one decent user base to develop for, you get this groups of villages effect and NO ONE wants to put out commercial software for that. Thus, "too much" freedom leads to disaster as well. Even Microsoft has gotten creepy (they were just boring before) with Metro/Windows8.x. If one thought you could count on a company to put out backwards compatible, standardized stuff, it's Microsoft. But they've been getting their head bashed in by PHONES of all things.

I guess the days of open computing and freedom are over. Pretty soon the entire web will be micro-managed, taxed to death and if you so much as type a word into a search engine your government doesn't like, they'll be at your door to throw you in prison. Ask countries like China or Saudi Arabia.
 
They killed it in Mavericks. I'm happy to get it back.

Didn't know that. Yet another stupidity of Mavericks to add to the list. Right up there with the removal of "open in new Finder window" and the moving of Network Utility to a menu item in System Information > Window.
 
It's a darn shame that Linux is a fractured POS. They have their own battles (e.g. Gnome going dictator and ignoring ALL feedback and pushing their vision instead of what people wanted and now it's in danger of imploding entirely. I can see Apple must take cues from open source after all.... )

Yep, GNOME is now banned from any computer I ever use, along with Ubuntu. But you're overreacting. Dictatorship? No, it's just that those in charge are making changes for the sake of change. People love to say "people fear change" as a lame excuse for these bogus changes, but those people are afraid of consistency.
 
Swift = amazing.
Best part of the keynote. Objective C is now a language marked for death soon. Apple had the testicles to pull off something as massive as this. And it'll crush the competition.
 
the 2D dock looks stupid
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Bye bye dropbox?

Given Apple's track record with Cloud services, I'm guessing it will take a while to build confidence. Dropbox and Google drive will have better cross-platform support too, for those who want to have options (which should be all of us, in my opinion).
 
Same exact experience here. I'm downgrading once I find the time. Oh yeah, and Mavericks removed more features than it added. No more colored labels, for one. Finder tabs are hardly useful, especially when they LAG LIKE POOP.

I agree as well. I downgraded to ML this last weekend. Both my mid 2011 iMac and 2011 17in MBP got the pop back in their steps.

I found Mavericks to be a bit mishmashed anyway, trying to do away with skeuomorphism in some places but not others, so there's also that.

I prefer the older look rather than the new, flat, candy iOS look, but that's just me. So at least my iPad 1 and my OS X boxes are unified in look and feel. :D

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the 2D dock looks stupid
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I like it. Reminds me of the older OS X docks.

Even in ML I use TinkerTool, which allows a flat dock (like when you set it on the side).

But I agree that it's not for everybody and that Apple should've left the option for it to be there. Maybe the option will be hidden, and a new version of TT will bring it back. Here's to hoping.

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Swift = amazing.
Best part of the keynote. Objective C is now a language marked for death soon. Apple had the testicles to pull off something as massive as this. And it'll crush the competition.

Big Balls indeed.

That said, we'll have to wait and see about Devs embracing an essentially proprietary language, though. It could go either way.
 
"Continuity" defined as spreading the iOS7 interface like a stage-4 cancer all over your other devices.
 
That's the Windows Taskbar.

And you can pin applications to it for quick launch. You can also click and hold on those icons to see what windows are open and switch between them.

It behaves exactly the same as the OSX dock.

Windows first introduced the feature in windows 98, but the icons were tiny and close to the start button.
 
And you can pin applications to it for quick launch. You can also click and hold on those icons to see what windows are open and switch between them.

It behaves exactly the same as the OSX dock.

Windows first introduced the feature in windows 98, but the icons were tiny and close to the start button.

And it remained exactly the same (albeit a few design tweaks) until Windows 7 when it became more of a dock.
 
…No more colored labels, for one. Finder tabs are hardly useful, especially when they LAG LIKE POOP.

If you're not already using TotalFinder for side-by-side Finder windows, it's almost worth the purchase price just to get the coloured labels back.
 
Yep, GNOME is now banned from any computer I ever use, along with Ubuntu. But you're overreacting. Dictatorship? No, it's just that those in charge are making changes for the sake of change. People love to say "people fear change" as a lame excuse for these bogus changes, but those people are afraid of consistency.

People in charge doing what they want and ignoring the people supporting and/or voting for them is a form of dictatorship or rather an oligarchy (multiple people). Kind of like the U.S.'s corrupted government. ;)

I never really did like Gnome anyway. I was always a fan of Black Box (well the Flux Box spinoff really). Well, I liked the look of the Matrix theme on it with various little docked apps. It could have used some of KDEs GUI options.

Really, the biggest problems I had in maintaining ANY Linux distribution is that sooner or later their auto-update mechanisms ultimately FAILED and I would have to install from scratch, which frankly was a time killer I got sick of giving up time to do. But if you didn't update, sooner or later updates in their software archives would no longer get updates. Why should my version of Firefox depend on some distribution's volunteer update schedules? It was ridiculous. Install the official version of Firefox and it would update itself just like on any other platform, but that defeated the "ease of use" of these distribution's packaging systems. More to the point, the iTunes imitators on Linux never were very good. Come to think of it, that's largely the problem with all Linux software. Open Source / Volunteer Work tends to equal CRAPOLA for a simplistic way of putting it. Most of the software and games were light-years behind the stuff available on Window and the Mac. It was OK for surfing/e-mail (other than the PITA update situation which was even worse in earlier distributions over 10 years ago when most of your software had to be self-compiled to even function). It's nice to get away from the mainstream, but it sucks losing good software to do it. That's where Linus Torvalds could have saved the day. He's perhaps the only person on the planet that could have unified some basic STANDARDS that would have allowed Linux to be a mainstream (yet still open standards and open source) operating system. As it is, it's too fractured for it to get the kind of support it deserves. Ubuntu was having some success, but then it started pushing Gnome 3 and well.... You already know the rest. No wonder Linux Mint is doing so well these days.

the 2D dock looks stupid
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I agree the 3D dock looked cooler, but I've been using the side-dock for years now (which it looks like only a bit darker than Mavericks) not for looks, but for function. There's more horizontal space on today's monitors than vertical so it would be outright a waste of space to put the dock on the bottom and further compromise things like browsers and word processors which tend to need more vertical space than horizontal. This becomes an even bigger problem on smaller monitors like those that come with say a notebook computer.

I just hope the new dock functions equally in 10.10 for the side/top and can migrate to other monitors (or better yet have a dock on each monitor like the menu bar).
 
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