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The number is irrelevant, the performance yielded by the number is not, and current performance with that same number is not very good. Additionally, each iteration of iOS expands memory needed by the system. So project that out for the 2-3 years most people will have this phone and there's a potentially ugly problem. If they implement split-screen multitasking as has been rumored, or multi-user account switching, that could get even worse.

You seem to be thinking about the iPad. This is on about the iPhone, theres no split screen or account switching there and current ram works just fine on my iPhone 5S, never had an issue ever.

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so your own situation is rapresentative of (at least) 85% of iOS users? Way to go:cool:.
I am a power user and i notice it. My girlfriend is a normal user and she gets annoyed by low memory crashes and tab reloading.
My mother is really a basic user and, guess what: she is annoyed as well.
So the average user (at least 85% of the massive iOS user-ship) knows.
A lot of them just think that this is something to be expected, but it's not.

No id say my situation is representative of the 15% of iOS users. Never have had had low memory crashes on the iPhone ever. iPhone 5S, never had an issue, and I run lots of tabs, they all load perfectly fine.

The iPad could do with a boost.
 
More RAM does use more power, it is a factor. But not one worth the headache IMO. Would much rather have a slightly heavier, slightly thicker phone that accommodates more RAM.

From a developer perspective, supporting older devices with minimal RAM is a nightmare. Just finished an iOS7 game and it was an infuriating experience trying to get everything to work without crashing due to memory pressure on iPhone 4 and particularly iPad 3/4. Low memory warnings all over the place, even after I stripped my graphics to the bone. And if you use iAd it gets worse because that requires its own not-insignificant chunk of RAM every time an interstitial is displayed.

Remember that devices introduced today are going to be the older devices a few years from now. which means they are just perpetuating the problem for future generations, for both developers and users.

I don't know how much power is required for an extra GB of RAM but I guess is quite low. More ram requires more space in the SoC, but they're increasing the screen size so there is room for a bigger SoC.

They really ought to put 2GB this time. iPhone 6 will be compatible with the new iOS versions at least until 2017, of course they can increase memory in 6S but in the future 2014's model could be a pain to use with only 1GB of RAM.
Developers are using webviews more frequently in their apps, I don't know if the new webviews are improving the memory consumption but old webviews are really hungry when it comes to memory.
If they don't put 2GB on next iPad they're crazy, but I hope they'll upgrade the iPhone's ram as well...
 
If those apps were properly written to iOS standards, you would never have known that any of them had been suspended. A properly coded iOS app will return to the foreground just as it was when it left the foreground.
Don't blame the amount of RAM when the problem is lazy or incompetent developers.

WOW...just WOW... Blame everything to the developers even Apple's own app do exactly same thing. Have you ever trying to write an email then open safari to check something,,when come back, you need rewrite your email again?
 
I see nothing wrong with my iphone closing every app and reopening it every time I switch between them. Kudos apple for choosing longer battery life and cost savings that doesn't get passed on to the consumer, better for the stock price.

Except the iPhone battery life is already crap.
 
Safari shouldn't crash if they just use a proper pagefile emulating ram from the ssd (flash memory or whatever type), improving the ssd's transfer rate should be enough

are you serious? Page files/swap will never compare to ram speeds
 
The iphone 4 was 3 years old by the time iOS 7 was released. Try updating your 3 year old android phone. I swear Apple users are so spoiled...

Wouldn't be such a complaint if ios was downgradable. Personally I'd rather be on an older , better performing ios on an older device.
 
it doesn't matter 1 GB RAM because Apple will make the iphon6 the first phone with 128 bit
 
Lets not overreact on this, we can clearly multitask in ios by buying equal number of 1gb i-devices to the tabs/apps we need open and using them side by side!
 
The iphone 4 was 3 years old by the time iOS 7 was released. Try updating your 3 year old android phone. I swear Apple users are so spoiled...

I just don't understand why some people will always come to this ridiculous notion that if it's not iOS, it has to be Android... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Puny half gig?

Umm... I still seem to remember when then top-of-the-line titanium PowerBook G4 came with half gig standard, with the option to upgrade to full gigabyte. Sure it was 12 years ago but it was a full blown laptop for God's sake! Same thing had 60GB hard drive by default and now 64GB flash storage is nothing..?

Surely a phone could survive, if you just didn't have to load p0rn on all Safari tabs :D :D :D

Tell it to the person whom I quoted earlier... I believe he is also a demi-god here... :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
This seems rather unlikely (especially with iOS 8 betas already out there), but I suppose it's possible Apple is (or is looking to in the future) implementing RAM compression into iOS, as they have for OS X. And it really does work amazingly well in OS X, maybe some of that extra horsepower from the A7 chip can be put to use there. With seemingly little effect on battery life in my MacBook Air, which actually increased its battery life with Mavericks.
 
When you can't have more than one app running at full speed, I see little need for more than 1 GB.

Just curious: can the iPhone use virtual memory? (With or without jail breaking?)

iOS comes from OS X, so I'd say yes, iOS can and does use virtual memory

No it does not. It was limited to prevent frequent Storage accesses, which would be eating up battery pretty fast. It does page frequently used Code parts though, but that is really nothing close to that, what e.g. the Unix Kernel does.

Instead iOS, Android, and I'm sure Windows Phone, but can't tell for sure, use a System where Apps are kicked out of the memory, if another app needs some.

This is a good way to force App Developers to manage their RAM usage tightly, cause if they don't, that would let the OSdrop other apps all the time and thus would lead to a bad overall experience.

I guess since, like maflynn correctly stated, iOS is a OS X Derivate, it is possible to enable virtual memory with a jailbreak, but I don't actually know, since I don't jailbreak my iDevices.
 
Well, that's one more reason to skip this upgrade. I think my 'phone mania' has dissolved.

Still interested to see what they pull out of the hat this year.
 
Must be why iPhone users statistically use more data than their android counterparts.

Are you comparing it to high end androids like when we complain about market share numbers or to 100 dollars androids? I would like to see the source about the differences between flagship models since I suspect samsung note users are much more active than iphone users, talking about advanced use and not whatsapp and messages
 
But hey! It's going to be thinner !!! ......
Yay... Said noone ever...
Incorrect. This gentleman said exactly that in 1987.

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Imagine what someone might say another 30 years further ahead...
 
I think this is okay for iPhone - Apple's vision of a phone doesn't quite line up with most Android maker's vision of a phone.

However, I agree with comments saying the iPad needs more RAM. An iPad should be able to hold 4/5 tabs open in Safari as well as another app.
 
Are you comparing it to high end androids like when we complain about market share numbers or to 100 dollars androids? I would like to see the source about the differences between flagship models since I suspect samsung note users are much more active than iphone users, talking about advanced use and not whatsapp and messages

That's just a general assessment from carriers that their iphone customers use more data than non-iPhone data plans. It was actually on the front page here on macrumors a while back.
 
So that Apple has a reason to force you to upgrade when iOS XI (read iOS 11) slows to a crawl... Just like how it started when iPhone 4 with a puny half gig RAM slows to a crawl on iOS 7...

Does the iPhone 4S? Because it has the same amount of RAM. I think you're confusing the slow performance of the 4 year old A4 chip with amount of RAM.
 
Does the iPhone 4S? Because it has the same amount of RAM. I think you're confusing the slow performance of the 4 year old A4 chip with amount of RAM.

Oh yes it does... The oldest models of the iPhone that can run iOS 7 fluidly (no hiccups whatsoever) are the 5 and the 5c...
 
That's just a general assessment from carriers that their iphone customers use more data than non-iPhone data plans. It was actually on the front page here on macrumors a while back.

So basically useless pro-Apple data like the useless pro-Android general market share numbers
 
Still 1GB? Really Apple? I know iOS is efficient but even this is on the low side of things, hopefully this turns out to be false.

Would be cool to see LPDDR4 though, should offer improvements to speed and battery life.
 
I guess the iPhone 6S (Minor) will have 2GB of ram. 2GB would help when you have a lot of jailbreak tweaks though. :( Oh well...1GB, it is.
 
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