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No girl card for you!

In all seriousness, the op's point stands. It is not socially acceptable for adult males to wear bright colored pastels in most settings.

There is nothing wrong with red. Dark reds are masculine. Burgundy is a staple of every man's wardrobe.

However, bright reds are a faux pas outside of sporting events (i.e., team colors), the fourth of July, and Christmas.

lol. believe me. their pants were fire engine red. and they weren't all young dudes, either. One I distinctly remember was a middle-aged man, obviously a business man, based on the quality of his clothes.

Confident men can wear color

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I don't want a boring, safe, suburban Apple. I want a cutting-edge Apple.

P.S. I had to take back my statement that I never wear bright colors because I realized I was wearing a bright blue shirt. :) Guess I'm getting more confident as I get older....
 
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if you dont want new features then fine.

It's not about "new" features, it's about how logic the new icons look and how they behave in an interactive way. And again, 99% of the "new" features are NOT new. But explain that to an Apple fanboy...


Apple will have its own twist on whatever feature it is and it does. No one got mad at MSFT or accused them of copying. Ohh wait they licensed with Apple and did their own twist. Samsung just lifted Apples design without paying for it to the point of looking identical to Apples iPhone...

Don't be ridiculous, Apple sued companies for making a tablet in the same shape of that of the iPad. I love iPad's, got two myself, but even a 5 years old child could understand you can't patent squares or circles. It's just silly and it's bring down competition which is by any means always ! a good thing. I love Apple product but gosh, I really dislike tribalism, these Apple fanboys who think everything is black and white in this world where Apple should dominate. I always tell Apple fanboys that competition is a good thing, it makes companies think harder to come up with even a better product and especially inventions, and inventions is what Apple could use. Because since Steve Jobs it's going downwards with Apple.

Theyd never release anything if they listened to the negative feedback before people actually got the product in their hands. IPad was panned when it was announced by pretty much everyone right up until the sales numbers came in.

That's called sophism. It's just a silly statement and, most importantly, not true at all even.
You referring to the iPad, IF IF IF IF then then then argumentation. It's not about the iPad and it's not about not able to bring out products IF IF IF Apple would listen to criticism. And quite frankly, I wish Apple DID listen to some criticism for once.

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TA few whiners on a website don't amount to anything substantial.

It's pretty clear to me that you don't read the newspaper

http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-7-design-criticism-2013-6
 
Just how we had all the HATE for the iPhone4 design when it was 1st leaked.

Why is it that Apple fanboy's can't stand criticism and reacting in such a dogmatic way? Again, it's not only about the designs, you hate it or love it, it's about the inconsistently of the design and the flaws within the part called interaction. I'm a designer myself, more then 25 years now, and I'm no exception, with me many, way more famous then me, are criticizing the new iOS7.

Read this article: http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-7-design-criticism-2013-6

Again, criticism is not about "hating" a product, hack, I dare to state that most of the famous professional designers out there love Apple products and actually work on the machines themselves.
 
Why is it that Apple fanboy's can't stand criticism and reacting in such a dogmatic way? Again, it's not only about the designs, you hate it or love it, it's about the inconsistently of the design and the flaws within the part called interaction. I'm a designer myself, more then 25 years now, and I'm no exception, with me many, way more famous then me, are criticizing the new iOS7.

Read this article: http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-7-design-criticism-2013-6

Again, criticism is not about "hating" a product, hack, I dare to state that most of the famous professional designers out there love Apple products and actually work on the machines themselves.

Discussion and argumentation rule number 1: the use of the word or term fanboy or fanboi (or any such derivative) is grounds for instant and immediate disqualification.

As for numbers of people either loving or hating this new design - there will *never* be universal consent one way or the other. Regardless, they're all just opinions, and despite what we may personally think, our opinions are always more important to ourselves than they are to others, and in some cases (current issue not excluded) this is more true than you could ever possibly imagine. :D
 
It doesn't.

However, they have kind of added it in a different way. So where before you had your camera roll, which was a single grid of photos, it's now organised by time and location.

Oh good, I was afraid the location based feature would be gone. I take hundreds of photos on my iPhone and that is my go to way for searching each pic.
 
It's pretty clear to me that you don't read the newspaper

http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-7-design-criticism-2013-6

no, I live in the digital age. If you knew anything about the design biz- you would know that every designer thinks they design better than every other designer. Erik Spiekerman is a font designer who doesn't like their use of Helvetica Light. Even I wonder about using such a thin font at small sizes but it looks ok to me from what I've seen. Maybe he's mad they didn't use the font he designed called Meta (a font I do like).

serg metelin is a software engineer, not a designer

Paul Fort tweet subsequent to the one listed:

Paul Fort ‏@work_paul 12 Jun
@paulgpetty I like #ios7 and am ready to give up my palm7 for it. I only criticized it the other day because it's a cheap way to sound smart
 
no, I live in the digital age. If you knew anything about the design biz- you would know that every designer thinks they design better than every other designer. Erik Spiekerman is a font designer who doesn't like their use of Helvetica Light. Even I wonder about using such a thin font at small sizes but it looks ok to me from what I've seen. Maybe he's mad they didn't use the font he designed called Meta (a font I do like).

serg metelin is a software engineer, not a designer

Paul Fort tweet subsequent to the one listed:

Paul Fort ‏@work_paul 12 Jun
@paulgpetty I like #ios7 and am ready to give up my palm7 for it. I only criticized it the other day because it's a cheap way to sound smart

The problem with Helvetica light and the dropping of drop shadows (so to speak) is that is makes it very hard to make out the text and icons on many backgrounds/wallpapers. If they test with more that just their new bubble background (it really does seem as if iOS 7 is aimed at teen girls) they might see the problem. While it looks fresh and new it simply doesn't do the job as well as iOS 6 for now, regardless of opinions on the styling...
 
The problem with Helvetica light and the dropping of drop shadows (so to speak) is that is makes it very hard to make out the text and icons on many backgrounds/wallpapers. If they test with more that just their new bubble background (it really does seem as if iOS 7 is aimed at teen girls) they might see the problem. While it looks fresh and new it simply doesn't do the job as well for now...

I think there are always issues with busy backgrounds with text on top. I find it hard to believe they didn't test this out already in the design process like any beginner UI designer would. Their use of a semi-opaque backer that puts a large blur on the background image for info/control overlays shows they have thought about this.

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I can read everything here just fine. How about you?
 
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Why is it that Apple fanboy's can't stand criticism and reacting in such a dogmatic way? Again, it's not only about the designs, you hate it or love it, it's about the inconsistently of the design and the flaws within the part called interaction. I'm a designer myself, more then 25 years now, and I'm no exception, with me many, way more famous then me, are criticizing the new iOS7.

Read this article: http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-7-design-criticism-2013-6

Again, criticism is not about "hating" a product, hack, I dare to state that most of the famous professional designers out there love Apple products and actually work on the machines themselves.

I don't see any criticism in the link you provided. Only 'this sucks' and this sucks'. Could you please indicate what is so inconsistent?
 
I think there are always issues with busy backgrounds with text on top. I find it hard to believe they didn't test this out already in the design process like any beginner UI designer would. Their use of a semi-opaque backer that puts a large blur on the background image for info/control overlays shows they have thought about this.

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I can read everything here just fine. How about you?

But this isn't the home screen, not a good example. I had to go through a fair few wallpapers before settling on a fairly simple darker one - the fact is, with no buffer between the text/icons and the background now if you have something which is a close colour it will blend in far more than it did with a drop shadow. I know the design world hates drop shadows and outlines but they do have a useful purpose.
 
But this isn't the home screen, not a good example. I had to go through a fair few wallpapers before settling on a fairly simple darker one - the fact is, with no buffer between the text/icons and the background now if you have something which is a close colour it will blend in far more than it did with a drop shadow. I know the design world hates drop shadows and outlines but they do have a useful purpose.

Not the home screen? The one on the left is over the lock screen. The one on the right is over all the home screen icons plus the bkg. Pretty busy, imo. When has choosing a good background EVER been a no-brainer? Some backgrounds have always been better than other when overlays are involved.

When you need to see functions, they make sure they are visible over any bkg:

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It's not about "new" features, it's about how logic the new icons look and how they behave in an interactive way. And again, 99% of the "new" features are NOT new. But explain that to an Apple fanboy...




Don't be ridiculous, Apple sued companies for making a tablet in the same shape of that of the iPad. I love iPad's, got two myself, but even a 5 years old child could understand you can't patent squares or circles. It's just silly and it's bring down competition which is by any means always ! a good thing. I love Apple product but gosh, I really dislike tribalism, these Apple fanboys who think everything is black and white in this world where Apple should dominate. I always tell Apple fanboys that competition is a good thing, it makes companies think harder to come up with even a better product and especially inventions, and inventions is what Apple could use. Because since Steve Jobs it's going downwards with Apple.



That's called sophism. It's just a silly statement and, most importantly, not true at all even.
You referring to the iPad, IF IF IF IF then then then argumentation. It's not about the iPad and it's not about not able to bring out products IF IF IF Apple would listen to criticism. And quite frankly, I wish Apple DID listen to some criticism for once.

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It's pretty clear to me that you don't read the newspaper

http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-7-design-criticism-2013-6
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. Love the design and new features. I will be trying out iOS 7 on my work iPhone.
 
It's not about "new" features, it's about how logic the new icons look and how they behave in an interactive way. And again, 99% of the "new" features are NOT new. But explain that to an Apple fanboy...

Hmm.. not sure I understand what you're saying.
The new features are definitely new.. *confused* If you mean that some of the features had similar implementation on other platforms and are only new to Apple & not new to the entire universe.. sure, I'd agree with that. Moments is a new idea, not in any other mobile OS.. the 3D desktop is also new & not on any other mobile OS.
I just got iOS 7 today, not having any issues with the icon looks. All in all, I'm VERY pleased. Only bug I've found so far is that my friends aren't popping up on Game Center. =/
 
I'll reserve my judgement on how these look until a few more betas come out.

beta's wont change the over all design, it will iron out the battery drain/performance/resizing issues - basically the more technical and internal software bits.

I dont know why people keep hoping and guessing Apple will go back to the drawing board for them. It is just not a part of their philosophy.

For people upset with the current designset is to wait for JB team to crack this one open as soon as possible.
 
beta's wont change the over all design, it will iron out the battery drain/performance/resizing issues - basically the more technical and internal software bits.

I dont know why people keep hoping and guessing Apple will go back to the drawing board for them. It is just not a part of their philosophy.

For people upset with the current designset is to wait for JB team to crack this one open as soon as possible.

Yep, if major changes come about, then this isn't a beta, it's an alpha version of the OS.

Before final release there may be tweaks to some of the design elements, but they will be so minor that the average user would never notice any difference between pre-change and post-change. Except for bug fixes, I would assume the icons and other design elements are here to stay.
 
No.. You misread my post.. I was basically saying they should have put you in charge of choosing the icons because you have better taste than them

Thanks, I won't take credit for that either. :rolleyes: Everybody seems to have better taste than them at this point. The almost universal rejection of some of those icons speaks volumes. I think Apple will adjust. After all, this is a beta still with 3 months in development to go. There will be all new features that weren't yet unveiled and there'll be some tweaks to what we've already seen.
 
Apple should form their own rather more unique game icon similar to PS4 and Xbox One.. seriously 4 colored circles don't mean anything.

Before the first time you click on it, the association most likely won't be there, maybe even it won't have stuck the second time, but the third time (or later for morons and idiots ;)) it'll have stuck and the icon will mean, "when I click on this sort of square thingy here with the 4 coloured circles, the app I expect to launch magically launches just as I expected, who'd have thunk?!" Or perhaps all experts will be proven wrong and people still won't get what happens when you click on the 4 coloured circles.<wry grin>

The WWDC session I saw they spoke about how people had evolved and matured into their current knowledge of touch-based UIs and how icons don't need any longer to be so detailed and how people can associate with simple representations of an app in an icon. Of course some will try and prove them wrong, of that I'm certain! :D
 
Have you ever. EVER. changed your behavior based on how many bars you have?

Yes, almost every day. I have bad coverage in my home office. Therefore, when I see one, maybe two bars, I know that I need to move to a different spot for better call quality.

Please continue to roll your eyes.
 
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