This video was very interesting. Not an Android user and never was but looks like Android is actually more functional and productive.
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Always Thought That iOS Was Simpler Than Android
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Android is not an option. I have used it in the past and will not use it again.
If you think it is so good, there is nothing stopping you from going there.
If you think it is so good, there is nothing stopping you from going there.
I would only use a stock Android device like the Pixel 2.
You have to admit from watching the video how more functional and productive Android is though.
I do not have to admit that is so. Like I said I have tried on several occasions and well . . . Not going back there.
Nah I think for the average customer IOS is rather easy to get to grips with compared to android personally.
That’s a terrible video.
Biased from the start - using language like ‘on Android you just have to’ to constantly imply it being easier when comparing.
The switch to previous app is inaccurate as you can just swipe to the right on the bottom bar to switch instantly without bringing up the full switcher.
Also personally while a little slower, I like the card metaphor that Apple are going with.
The Android examples had several situations where the implementations were different but he ignores that (due to stock vs Samsung I guess), with settings buttons etc being in different places. So not that easy to learn if you want to change manufacturers but status with Android
Biased from the start - using language like ‘on Android you just have to’ to constantly imply it being easier when comparing.
The switch to previous app is inaccurate as you can just swipe to the right on the bottom bar to switch instantly without bringing up the full switcher.
Also personally while a little slower, I like the card metaphor that Apple are going with.
The Android examples had several situations where the implementations were different but he ignores that (due to stock vs Samsung I guess), with settings buttons etc being in different places. So not that easy to learn if you want to change manufacturers but status with Android
Just like the poster above me I think this is so biased. Unlike Android there is no need to close an app, hence there is no option to close all. Another example you don’t have to swipe up and press and wait to bring the cards of open apps. Just swipe up and right or left, no waiting at all.
I've used iOS on the past and hated it. But there's no way I would simply declare that I'd never use it again.
Things evolve and change all the time. Open your mind a little.
Seems like the kind of discussion that has been going on at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-lockdown-starting-to-p-s-me-off.2090026/
I think depending on expectations, you'll either prefer one or the other.
There are a few of us who like both though and I think it's fun to be a part of that!
I criticize both and praise both. They've each got pros and cons.
There are a few of us who like both though and I think it's fun to be a part of that!
I criticize both and praise both. They've each got pros and cons.
Ridiculous that he flat out ignores the one-swipe app switching gesture on the iPhone X as he is trying prove switching apps is faster on Android.
It’s funny how people run to this form to defend their OS of choice. I am sending this from an iPad, with my iPhone X sitting next to me. But Android is a great operating system, but Apple just happen to get my dollars this year. I’m never to clear up line or two to one company or another.
Android definitely has a steeper learning curve. I'm an iOS user but have had guys with their Galaxy's or Note's asking me how to do certain functions.
I'm able to find whatever settings they need changed or how to do certain tasks but it does take me a little longer to get to that point. I'm pretty tech savvy with both Mac and Windows - each has there best specific uses so I'm not blasting Android, but its just not as intuitive as iOS in my opinion.
I'm able to find whatever settings they need changed or how to do certain tasks but it does take me a little longer to get to that point. I'm pretty tech savvy with both Mac and Windows - each has there best specific uses so I'm not blasting Android, but its just not as intuitive as iOS in my opinion.
You should know by now a fanboi is a fanboi, you will never be able to convince them. It's not your job to do it anyway, so just forget about them.
In general Android design is easier with nav and doing multi tasking.
E.g.
very common use case.
1. You are doing something (say reading e-book). Notification comes in (whatsapp/email/whatever).
2. Click notification to view message. Inside the message is a web link. You want to see the link before replying.
3. Click on weblink to open web page. Inside the webpage there is also a youtube video
4. Click on video to view.
On Android after you have done with (4), you tap global back button and you are at (3) to finish the article, then you tap back button again and you are at (2) to type and send your reply and then you tap back button which takes you back to what you were doing before in (1).
Using Iphone, you have to use your task manager to switch back and forth to previous app every step of the way and making a conscious effort to remember what you were doing before and which app to move back to up the chain. This is so more tedious and less coherent.
E.g.
very common use case.
1. You are doing something (say reading e-book). Notification comes in (whatsapp/email/whatever).
2. Click notification to view message. Inside the message is a web link. You want to see the link before replying.
3. Click on weblink to open web page. Inside the webpage there is also a youtube video
4. Click on video to view.
On Android after you have done with (4), you tap global back button and you are at (3) to finish the article, then you tap back button again and you are at (2) to type and send your reply and then you tap back button which takes you back to what you were doing before in (1).
Using Iphone, you have to use your task manager to switch back and forth to previous app every step of the way and making a conscious effort to remember what you were doing before and which app to move back to up the chain. This is so more tedious and less coherent.
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I just want to thank everyone at MR from the bottom of my heart for finally opening my eyes to how stubborn and closed minded I’ve been regarding my beliefs about the superiority of iOS and the iPhone, and for only wishing to read about Apple products in iPhone forums on sites about Apple. My eyes are actually a little tearful as I write this, having just come to terms with the errors of my ways. Blessings to you all who are doing the good work of sharing this joyous news about the many wonderful non-Apple products in the world. My heart is filled. Thank you!
Here's how you turn off an iPhone X: You press and hold the Side Button and either the Volume Up or Volume Down button until you see the "slide to power off" screen. Then you slide to power off.
Here's how you turn off either a Pixel or Samsung phone: You press and hold the power button. And then you tap Power Off.
Which one do you think is more efficient? *points to both Android phones*
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Jokes aside, that was a very poor review in taste and quality. The research done was very poor, and for someone who's reviewing a product and/or comparing it to another, you would expect them to know something as basic as the swipe from the home bar feature. It's not exactly a hidden feature. Even in the comments, someone highlights this to the reviewer, and still - instead of trying to do more research, he takes it at face value and believes that you can only swipe along the home bar when in apps; if you're on the home screen, you're SOL and have to swipe up and hold.
He also picks and chooses stuff where the iPhone X is going to fail.
Honestly, and sorry for the bluntness, but that was one of the worst reviews I have watched. I'm an Android phone person but decided to switch the X because it made sense for the environment I was slowly building around myself. Having switched over, the one thing I miss the most is the way Android handled notifications. Also, iOS 11 is feature-packed, but it's still buggy - not at all representative of how Apple functioned in the past (I had an iPhone 6 before and have only used iPads). I've noticed a lot more accidental buttons pressed (screenshots fun), but the learning curve on an iPhone is much easier. That's not to say that Android is hard. It's easy as well, but Apple does a better job of simplifying.
Between the X and the S7Edge, I like the curved display on the Edge more, but functionality-wise, I think the iPhone is better. Sure Android can do a lot more because it's more open, but for the average user, the iPhone dominates.
Here's how you turn off either a Pixel or Samsung phone: You press and hold the power button. And then you tap Power Off.
Which one do you think is more efficient? *points to both Android phones*
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Jokes aside, that was a very poor review in taste and quality. The research done was very poor, and for someone who's reviewing a product and/or comparing it to another, you would expect them to know something as basic as the swipe from the home bar feature. It's not exactly a hidden feature. Even in the comments, someone highlights this to the reviewer, and still - instead of trying to do more research, he takes it at face value and believes that you can only swipe along the home bar when in apps; if you're on the home screen, you're SOL and have to swipe up and hold.
He also picks and chooses stuff where the iPhone X is going to fail.
Honestly, and sorry for the bluntness, but that was one of the worst reviews I have watched. I'm an Android phone person but decided to switch the X because it made sense for the environment I was slowly building around myself. Having switched over, the one thing I miss the most is the way Android handled notifications. Also, iOS 11 is feature-packed, but it's still buggy - not at all representative of how Apple functioned in the past (I had an iPhone 6 before and have only used iPads). I've noticed a lot more accidental buttons pressed (screenshots fun), but the learning curve on an iPhone is much easier. That's not to say that Android is hard. It's easy as well, but Apple does a better job of simplifying.
Between the X and the S7Edge, I like the curved display on the Edge more, but functionality-wise, I think the iPhone is better. Sure Android can do a lot more because it's more open, but for the average user, the iPhone dominates.
I think you got this wrong. To the average users most probably will not plonk down $1000 for a phone. If you look at averages, there are 4x more average users on Android than iPhone.
Both mobile operating systems have their good points and their bad. This video covers only a few basic navigation areas, and doesn't even mention that there are widgets for iOS... they just appear on the widget screen and not on the home screen. I will say that I'm all for being able to add lock screen widgets that you don't have to swipe to see, but I don't care that much. I have an Apple Watch, and that gives me a far more convenient way to see that kind of information.
I do think the video makes some good points, but he fails to mention that these are iPhone X specific navigation quirks, and the experience on an iPhone 8 is different (and some would say better in some ways), and I expect we will see some refinements to the X over time... and that may include navigation changes. Personally I find it a bit annoying that you can't swipe to close an app in the app switcher without first doing the long press. I can't think of a reason why Apple did this unless it was because some people complained that they accidentally closed apps trying to swipe between them. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple reverts us back to the old way in a future update (or lets us choose whether or not we want that extra step).
Would iOS users prefer to have three separate buttons for Home, Back, and App Switcher/Menu? Some might. Others might say it's unnecessary clutter. I don't know that I feel strongly one way or the other. This video showed the difference between easy and easier, but there are some things about Android that are not easier. I have been an iPhone user since the 3G, but I have relied much more on Google apps (mail, calendar, music streaming, storage, etc.), so I have considered going Android in the past. I stayed with Apple mainly because of the Apple Watch and the fact that I also have an iPad. Between the iPhone 6, Apple Watch, and iPad these devices feel like they work incredibly well together... and that does have a positive impact on productivity. The X does diminish the consistency (i.e., home button) between the iPhone and iPad, but not by much.
I think it's a stretch to say this video shows that Android is more "functional and productive." There is so much more that goes into what we mean by those words... especially when it comes to all your devices working together. Personally I think that if you want to increase efficiency in how you interact with your mobile technology: Get a smartwatch.
Sean
I do think the video makes some good points, but he fails to mention that these are iPhone X specific navigation quirks, and the experience on an iPhone 8 is different (and some would say better in some ways), and I expect we will see some refinements to the X over time... and that may include navigation changes. Personally I find it a bit annoying that you can't swipe to close an app in the app switcher without first doing the long press. I can't think of a reason why Apple did this unless it was because some people complained that they accidentally closed apps trying to swipe between them. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple reverts us back to the old way in a future update (or lets us choose whether or not we want that extra step).
Would iOS users prefer to have three separate buttons for Home, Back, and App Switcher/Menu? Some might. Others might say it's unnecessary clutter. I don't know that I feel strongly one way or the other. This video showed the difference between easy and easier, but there are some things about Android that are not easier. I have been an iPhone user since the 3G, but I have relied much more on Google apps (mail, calendar, music streaming, storage, etc.), so I have considered going Android in the past. I stayed with Apple mainly because of the Apple Watch and the fact that I also have an iPad. Between the iPhone 6, Apple Watch, and iPad these devices feel like they work incredibly well together... and that does have a positive impact on productivity. The X does diminish the consistency (i.e., home button) between the iPhone and iPad, but not by much.
I think it's a stretch to say this video shows that Android is more "functional and productive." There is so much more that goes into what we mean by those words... especially when it comes to all your devices working together. Personally I think that if you want to increase efficiency in how you interact with your mobile technology: Get a smartwatch.
Sean
Tried android twice for 6 months each time in the last 3-4 years.
I don’t use my phone for work so “productive” is subjective.
I use iOS to text, call, listen to music, watch a movie, take a picture or video, email, get Maps directions and so on. Those are just the native iOS apps in use.
I’d say all in all, iOS letting me complete all of those things natively is pretty “productive”.
I don’t use my phone for work so “productive” is subjective.
I use iOS to text, call, listen to music, watch a movie, take a picture or video, email, get Maps directions and so on. Those are just the native iOS apps in use.
I’d say all in all, iOS letting me complete all of those things natively is pretty “productive”.
I stopped watching 4 minutes in when he failed to say that you can go back to the previous app by simply swiping right at the bottom of the iPhone screen. If he’s going to overlook shortcuts, his video has no credibility.
Just on the fragmentation of Android OS and the name of their OS, I can never use it again. It's just so ugly.