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HckySo said:
One of them was older and the other was a long time friend who goes to an all boys school who's straight but secretly fools around.

If you think your male friend who attends an all boys school, and fools around with other boys is straight, then :p.

And personally, I think you're gay. Maybe you're slow at accepting it or something, but if kissing a guy is like heaven, and kissing a girl feels awkward, then.......um.......u iz ghey. It's ok. You may have a difficult time in Year 8, though. You may even get teased a lot. Not sure what the atmosphere is like in that age group anymore, but maybe people are more accepting and open-minded now. I doubt it at your age, so expect to get called a "fag" or "flaming homo" a lot. They'll grow out of it.
 
Abstract said:
If you think your male friend who attends an all boys school, and fools around with other boys is straight, then :p.

And personally, I think you're gay. Maybe you're slow at accepting it or something, but if kissing a guy is like heaven, and kissing a girl feels awkward, then.......um.......u iz ghey. It's ok. You may have a difficult time in Year 8, though. You may even get teased a lot. Not sure what the atmosphere is like in that age group anymore, but maybe people are more accepting and open-minded now. I doubt it at your age, so expect to get called a "fag" or "flaming homo" a lot. They'll grow out of it.

I disagree with the growing out of it part. Some may wise up and stop judging others, but sadly...many won't. I graduate high school tomorrow and there are PLENTY of people who still make snide and extremely disgusting comments towards the gays.
 
If you have to ask...

You're gay. You appreciate the beauty of girls and you like watching straight sex (hey, who doesn't), but you can't deal with your obvious sexuality because of society or family or something. It's alright, it's not really that big of a deal. You don't have to date a girl because you think you should, but you're too young to be having sex. I'm sure you think about it all the time, and I'm sure you love porn, but relax a little bit so you don't become a perv or anything. If you aren't ready to come out, you have plenty of time before you move out on your own or go to college or whatever.

When you get to college, you'll know for sure, then you can come out to everyone. Until then, I'm not saying you have to keep it secret, but you don't seem to want to deal with it, which is understandable. The college time limit is just an arbitrary time I threw out there to make you think about it.

You are gay though.
 
Frozone said:
I disagree with the growing out of it part. Some may wise up and stop judging others, but sadly...many won't. I graduate high school tomorrow and there are PLENTY of people who still make snide and extremely disgusting comments towards the gays.

Yeah I agree with you, and I think the stupid comments will come out in high school from other students, but generally, people are more accepting that there are gay people in this world. Before, gays would get lynched in high school. I'm not being literal, but the teasing and tormenting wouldn't be as "soft" as it is today.

There are obviously going to be a few pricks who won't back off, though.
 
Abstract said:
Yeah I agree with you, and I think the stupid comments will come out in high school from other students, but generally, people are more accepting that there are gay people in this world. Before, gays would get lynched in high school. I'm not being literal, but the teasing and tormenting wouldn't be as "soft" as it is today.

There are obviously going to be a few pricks who won't back off, though.

I'll agree on that. It's not nearly as bad as what it used to be, with the lynchings and stuff. It also depends upon where he's at too. I'm in Georgia, so there is a ton of religious radicals down here. Other places, there isn't as many. But overall...def. not as bad as what it used to be.
 
I live in a nice neighborhood and a nice cute little school but there are always those kids who are homophobic *******s.
 
iSaint said:
Not that everyone else isn't doing a great job...but, where's iGary?
He's decided to lay low for a while. I think he said something about being here too much and needing a break. I'm sure he'll be back later.
 
iSaint said:
Not that everyone else isn't doing a great job...but, where's iGary?
You seem to have forgot Chip NoVaMac as well.

Anyway, HckySo, I guess you have sub-consciously make up your mind and you are looking for some assurance and confirmative answer. We have a great community going on here, so feel free to pop a question whenever you have a problem.
 
jsw said:
He's decided to lay low for a while. I think he said something about being here too much and needing a break. I'm sure he'll be back later.


I thought all his computer related things have blown up by now and he just couldn't manage to get on...:confused:
 
Peyton said:
I thought all his computer related things have blown up by now and he just couldn't manage to get on...:confused:

Yeah, I think he drooled all over the inside of his new Quad and shorted it out. Poor guy...
 
calebjohnston said:
You shouldn't be sleeping with anyone at 14, guys or girls.
Completely agree.

At 14 he should be enjoying life and having fun with your friends.

Why complicate things with sex/intimacy issues. That can always come later when you are ready.
 
Maybe I'm just echoing what others have said, but this is very normal. My sexuality wasn't sorted out completely until my early 20s. I know I was a "late developer" but most teenagers don't have it sorted out by your age. From your posts, it looks like you are veering towards the gay end of the spectrum at the moment, but that can still all change. Give it time.

Don't worry about those jerks who feel a need to put you down. They are going through exactly the same thing, but from the perspective of their own sexuality. Some teenagers fear the confusion, and some carry it into adulthood to become card-carrying homophobes. Just remember that they are the ones with the problem. It can't be pleasant being afraid of yourself.

BTW, the anal sex thing. A lot of gays don't do that. There's no 10 Homosexual Commandments telling everyone what they should be doing or how they should be acting. Be yourself and the rest will fall into place.
 
HckySo said:
I live in a nice neighborhood and a nice cute little school but there are always those kids who are homophobic *******s.

There are dumb people that hate this or that everywhere. That's the world. Not many people are completely without prejudice in some form.

Just live your life and who cares about what other people think? You don't have to listen to them in your head, only yourself.
 
HckySo said:
Back on subject, I don't know, I guess I'll just keep living and not worry about what to define myself as.

Great plan. Enjoy yourself. :)
 
dynamicv said:
From your posts, it looks like you are veering towards the gay end of the spectrum at the moment.......

There's no "end of the spectrum." Gays are all over the spectrum like a rainbow. :p

And I don't really agree that everyone is going through this. Lots of guys know they're straight and never question it. I don't, and never really have. I remember my first big crush, and trust me, it wasn't a guy. I've thought that certain guys were really good looking, but that's not homosexuality, and I already knew that by the time I was 13. Some people are confused, and I do think it's a normal sort of confusion that lots of boys wonder about (sorta like "normal" penis size, I guess), but lets not say that all, or even "most" guys go through this, because I doubt it.
 
Abstract said:
There's no "end of the spectrum." Gays are all over the spectrum like a rainbow. :p

And I don't really agree that everyone is going through this. Lots of guys know they're straight and never question it. I don't, and never really have. I remember my first big crush, and trust me, it wasn't a guy. I've thought that certain guys were really good looking, but that's not homosexuality, and I already knew that by the time I was 13. Some people are confused, and I do think it's a normal sort of confusion that lots of boys wonder about (sorta like "normal" penis size, I guess), but lets not say that all, or even "most" guys go through this, because I doubt it.

Abstract, not doubting your opinion nor history one bit, but straight men tell things to gay men in confidence that they would never tell their straight friends. This "temporary confusion" is more common than people realise.
 
Abstract said:
But to say "most" is a bit far fetched. I'd say a part of the male population, but no more than 10-20%, I'd think. Actually, 20% is on the high side of things.

Yeah OK, that it's not most I'll concede. But at 14, they'll be a lot with no attraction either way, some with attraction both ways, and some that will know exactly what sex they're attracted to. The whole puberty thing makes peope very unsure of themselves, not least because everyone's bodies are developing at different rates (and in different places ;)) but also because of all that hormonal imbalance. I'll stand by my statement about those youngsters that have a problem with gay peers though. From my experience, all teenage bullying comes from fear about the self.
 
Abstract said:
But to say "most" is a bit far fetched. I'd say a part of the male population, but no more than 10-20%, I'd think. Actually, 20% is on the high side of things.
In a study done in year 2000 among 580 Norwegian students (66% women), 37% of the respondents had had fantasies about sex with someone of the same gender, 13% had experienced sex with someone of the same gender and a further 15% would like to try it. link (norwegian).

It doesn't perhaps apply directly here, and I'm sure there are differences between men and women, but it's interesting.
 
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