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Am I missing something?

brock2621

brock2621

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So the new iPhone is coming out and all I'm reading on the forum are people complaining about it. I need someone to put things into perspective for me because from what I can see:

1. Brand new billet aluminum or steel unibody just like their laptop process (also, is there even another manufacturer that does this?)

2. A larger screen for more real estate, and no more video cropping

3. LTE

4. Quad core A6 (most likely)

5. Improved speakers

6. Smaller proximity footprint on face from pics (good for white version)

7. Thinner

8. Larger battery

9. iOS 6 with long awaited turn by turn

I'm just a little confused with what appears to be Apple creating a whole new manufacturing unibody process, larger screen, all new chips inside (not to mention probably starting from scratch on the custom silicone and organization for the internals), LTE, faster etc, and all I hear is complaints.

I just don't get it... :rolleyes:
 
Maybe because these are features that are already available to consumers via other devices?

Seems like the bar has been set so high that if your phone doesn't magically transform into a unicorn or baby ogre it's not worth getting excited about.

But yeah, I'm definitely waiting to see what Apple's bringing to the table this go round. Just the larger screen alone is enticing enough.
 
Apple has delivered some amazing products, and people have high expectations. Many companies give us what we ask for. Apple has successfully wowed us with what we didn't know we wanted. If apple continues their success, we consumers will always be a step or two behind, and then they will pull the rabbit out of the hat. There is a reason that apple's events dwarf all others.

So when we see some generic rumored hardware samples, we see incremental change and fear apple has lost their way. But if the past is an indicator of the future, apple will again deliver something more, something we didn't know we wanted. And we will line up.

I don't know if they can continue that game or not. If not, the next iPhone will just be another phone among many. This is how it goes.
 
I think some people are tired of waiting. The external design of the 4/4S hasn't changed in over two years and people wanted these things a long time ago. Many have already switched to other devices because they wanted something different.

Personally, I can't wait to get one but maybe this one will be a flop and not sell out ;)
 
3. LTE world-mode phone.

8. Larger battery (just 0.6% larger).

10. Voice over LTE.

11. Improved LTE antenna.

12. 4' Drop-Resistance Phone.

13. Dual-Band WiFi supporting super power saving mode.

14. iSafe 19-pin Connector.

15. Camera - Low noise, larger image sensor.

16. Retina2 Screen

17. NFC sensor.

18. Nano SIM card.

:D
 
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Dontazemebro said:
Maybe because these are features that are already available to consumers via other devices?

Seems like the bar has been set so high that if your phone doesn't magically transform into a unicorn or baby ogre it's not worth getting excited about.

But yeah, I'm definitely waiting to see what Apple's bringing to the table this go round. Just the larger screen alone is enticing enough.
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Maybe. But you have to downgrade to a subpar OS to get them.
 
batting1000 said:
The fact is people are too needy and a few new features just isn't enough for some these days.
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Imagine if Apple was first to release an LTE capable device, or first to release a NFC capable device, or first with a larger screen, or first with any of the many things other manufacturers are doing first.

I wonder if you'd ever say that the competition is behind (not only would I wager that you'd be one of the first to point it out, I'd wager you'd also be first to sing praises of Apple pushing the frontier). But if Apple is behind, and people are hoping for more, then consumers are too needy.

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Dontazemebro said:
Maybe because these are features that are already available to consumers via other devices?
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Nailed it.

For the "best smartphone" or the "most advance mobile operating system" it sure is lacking features that the competition has or can already do. OP, you're not missing anything. The iPhone is!
 
I agree. The iPad 3 launch was a serious flop. I seriously went into the apple store on launch day and they had hundreds of unsold iPads whereas it used to be completely sold out.

I expect the iPhone ?5? launch to flop even worse. Apple were just a trend and it's falling quick.

I used to be a fanboy but now apples BORING.
 
macingman said:
I agree. The iPad 3 launch was a serious flop. I seriously went into the apple store on launch day and they had hundreds of unsold iPads whereas it used to be completely sold out.

I expect the iPhone ?5? launch to flop even worse. Apple were just a trend and it's falling quick.

I used to be a fanboy but now apples BORING.
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Yeee,.... So..., Apple sold 20 million iPads last quarter. :p
 
macingman said:
I agree. The iPad 3 launch was a serious flop. I seriously went into the apple store on launch day and they had hundreds of unsold iPads whereas it used to be completely sold out.
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...because your one Apple store is an accurate portrayal of ALL Apple stores or that there can't be something else at play.

I guess it'd be too hard to imagine Apple not wanting angry customers having to wait so they made sure they'd have more than enough on hand for the first week.

Considering they sold 1 Million units in the first day, 3 million in the first weekend, I can't see how anyone could consider it a flop.
 
realeric said:
Yeee,.... So..., Apple sold 20 million iPads last quarter. :p
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Says apple, which is notorious for overexgerrating sales figures.

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cyks said:
...because your one Apple store is an accurate portrayal of ALL Apple stores or that there can't be something else at play.

I guess it'd be too hard to imagine Apple not wanting angry customers having to wait so they made sure they'd have more than enough on hand for the first week.

Considering they sold 1 Million units in the first day, 3 million in the first weekend, I can't see how anyone could consider it a flop.
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It wasn't one store it was several. Still apple stil are losing market share and they are disappearing.
 
brock2621 said:
So the new iPhone is coming out and all I'm reading on the forum are people complaining about it. I need someone to put things into perspective for me because from what I can see:

1. Brand new billet aluminum or steel unibody just like their laptop process (also, is there even another manufacturer that does this?)

2. A larger screen for more real estate, and no more video cropping

3. LTE

4. Quad core A6 (most likely)

5. Improved speakers

6. Smaller proximity footprint on face from pics (good for white version)

7. Thinner

8. Larger battery

9. iOS 6 with long awaited turn by turn

I'm just a little confused with what appears to be Apple creating a whole new manufacturing unibody process, larger screen, all new chips inside (not to mention probably starting from scratch on the custom silicone and organization for the internals), LTE, faster etc, and all I hear is complaints.

I just don't get it... :rolleyes:
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I don't get it too. Complaints about something is best kept to yourself. Its not like we're all living in countries with planned economies and you have to get what they told you too. If you think the new iPhone sucked, keep that comment to yourself, or maybe some constructive criticism and go out and get that new SGSIII.
However I WOULD MIND if they stick with TOTALLY the same design as the 4S, with not even a metal aluminium back! A metal aluminium back is a good enough change for me, and I've seen mockup photos of the alleged new iPhone with the new back and it looks sleeker than ever!

In the world of design, things don't have to be dramatically designed to be better- colours, tones, materials, texture matters and is also important factors. Just like cases on phones - changing a case or adding a bumper to your phone adds appeal to your phone.

Quad Core A6 isn't a most likely. They might opt for the A5X and streamline the features on their iDevices. It happened in the last 2 years. But of course, the A5X is still a significant performance improvement compared to the A5 if MINUS the Retina screen on the iPad. No matter what, it has got to edge the quad core exynos processor or on par with it.
 
The way I see it is that Apple, for the most part, they don't just release features that are 'cool' and 'gimmicky' like Siri, unless they believe it has the penitential and is worth it. I reckon Apple waits and sees all these other companies releasing phones with voice search and so on, that barely work nicely, but when the iPhone release comes around that year they will expand upon and dramatically change that function (example). So while when you buy that shiny new iPhone you may not have the first phone to have that feature, it will work, and work well. You just have to be patient.
 
cyks said:
I guess it'd be too hard to imagine Apple not wanting angry customers having to wait so they made sure they'd have more than enough on hand for the first week.
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Then explain iPad 2 launch. Specifically no early preorders online, no preorders accepted in any store, 5pm launch time. Apple wanted a zoo after seeing empty Verizon stores for iPhone Verizon launch, and they got it. They artificially created these lines to remind people that "Hey, we are still cool"

It's not a secret that Apple is losing their edge. They cannot gain any market share in PC market. They already lost to Android in phone market share. As much as anti Apple that I am, I hope they pull some serious trick out of their hat for iPhone 5, because they've been playing catchup for quite some time already, and iOS 6 was a true statement to that. Look at 4S vs 4. Slapped same chip they have in iPad 2 and added Siri. They couldn't even do Siri themselves, they bought a company. On Google side of things, their voice search is inhouse developed.
 
macingman said:
I agree. The iPad 3 launch was a serious flop. I seriously went into the apple store on launch day and they had hundreds of unsold iPads whereas it used to be completely sold out.

I expect the iPhone ?5? launch to flop even worse. Apple were just a trend and it's falling quick.

I used to be a fanboy but now apples BORING.
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And I will be one that will purchase this new boring iPhone 5 when in comes out. You and others can go find another less boring phone. :D
 
aziatiklover said:
Dont worry too much about hipsters that complaint, and will be first to camp out for it! True story!
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Truer words have never been spoken... The ones doing the most complaining here are usually the first ones up at 3am refreshing the order page and the ones standing in line at Apple stores on release date..... So I wouldn't worry about it too much, some people just like to complain for the sake of complaining.
 
Apple has always had alot of Hate. It's just now the Haters own iphones because their mates have them and they are cool. So they find there way onto macrumours and put troll posts. True apple heads will always appreciate what there design team does.
 
Meanee said:
Then explain iPad 2 launch. Specifically no early preorders online, no preorders accepted in any store, 5pm launch time. Apple wanted a zoo after seeing empty Verizon stores for iPhone Verizon launch, and they got it. They artificially created these lines to remind people that "Hey, we are still cool"

It's not a secret that Apple is losing their edge. They cannot gain any market share in PC market. They already lost to Android in phone market share. As much as anti Apple that I am, I hope they pull some serious trick out of their hat for iPhone 5, because they've been playing catchup for quite some time already, and iOS 6 was a true statement to that. Look at 4S vs 4. Slapped same chip they have in iPad 2 and added Siri. They couldn't even do Siri themselves, they bought a company. On Google side of things, their voice search is inhouse developed.
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They seem to be doing pretty well from a profit perspective: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/05/03/with-8-8-market-share-apple-has-73-of-cell-phone-profits/
 
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