Am I the only one pissed about no turn by turn GPS functionality

[hexonxonx]

I really don't care. I had a Garmin GPS long before there was an iPhone and a few weeks ago, I bought another Garmin.

The iPhone is supposed to be a phone first and foremost. Any other features are secondary.

 

[Hutch1]

How about this, if the iPhone doesn't have the features that you need or want and others do, go buy them. Every device can't be everything to everyone. I wish I could surf the internet with my blender or toaster, what pieces of crap, Why doesn't this rock have a light?

I thought the iPhone would have a laser and allow me to time travel, why can't it shoot down missiles. Is there going to be a version I can fly?

If you're pissed , you should be pissed with yourself because you bought a product that didn't meet your needs, and you most likely did it to be cool so that you could say that you have an iPhone.

 

[Aurial]

How about this, if the iPhone doesn't have the features that you need or want and others do, go buy them.

You're right, in fact why don't we email Apple and tell them not to bother giving us Push Notifications or anything else they might have planned. We got what we paid for, we don't want or deserve anything else from them. We'll just take the extra stuff in two years time when we can upgrade.

 

[Hutch1]

You're right, in fact why don't we email Apple and tell them not to bother giving us Push Notifications or anything else they might have planned. We got what we paid for, we don't want or deserve anything else from them. We'll just take the extra stuff in two years time when we can upgrade.

I get Push email, you don't? Where did they promise turn by turn directions, MSM, or Video recording? It's one thing to have issues with things that are suppose to be there and don't function properly, it's a whole other issue to bitch and whine about features that aren't there and were never advertised nor promised.

That said I've never really had an email that couldn't wait a whole 15 minutes to be fetched, people have become way to self important. It's email, I don't think anyone is sending brain surgery instructions via email.

 

[NT1440]

so you are satisfied with this GPS? The general public is not, in fact they are pointing to this short coming in the G1 comparison.... Yes I love my Iphone... Yes I love my ipods...... Do i think the GPS is crap, sure do


3rd Party Development of GPS for 1st and 2nd generation iphone ( they are working of the software as we speak)
http://iphone-gps.blogspot.com/

Its my thinking that you cant bitch about a "lacking" feature, when you KNEW it wasnt there in the first place.

 

[Aurial]

I get Push email, you don't? Where did they promise turn by turn directions, MSM, or Video recording? It's one thing to have issues with things that are suppose to be there and don't function properly, it's a whole other issue to bitch and whine about features that aren't there and were never advertised nor promised.

Not push email, push notifications.

And who said anything about MMS and video recording? They put a GPS chip in the phone, they advertised the upcoming procedures for it in the SDK and they have the worlds largest Satelite Navigation Software developer claiming to have a version working on their platform.

This is hardly analogous to wanting to fly on the damn thing now is it?

 

[zhaden]

I get Push email, you don't? Where did they promise turn by turn directions, MSM, or Video recording? It's one thing to have issues with things that are suppose to be there and don't function properly, it's a whole other issue to bitch and whine about features that aren't there and were never advertised nor promised.

That said I've never really had an email that couldn't wait a whole 15 minutes to be fetched, people have become way to self important. It's email, I don't think anyone is sending brain surgery instructions via email.

lol. His point being: the glaring flaw in your argument is the assumption everybody is just like you. I don't have to think about it to know that somebody saved 1) money 2) time or 3) some form of resources by having push email on their phone. It's moronic to think otherwise.

To know that someone could save resources by gaining a function on their phone that is capable of performing that function and then having the consumers strangled out of that ability because of something silly like patents or Apple wanting to keep the choke on their consumers is frustrating. It's a forum. Let the people vent.

 

[PixelFactory]

I'm a firm believer that turn-by-turn is coming. It will probably come from TomTom and be sold on disk. NA maps come in around 1.75GB so downloading is not a likely option and it will most likely be a "special" app that has a different type of installation than the AppStore apps because of size limitations. As far as the GPS being too week, nav units use software to "estimate" your location based on speed and direction along with map information. I've missed turns in my parents car and for a few seconds it showed that I actually made the turn and then jumped to my real location.

Give it time. I suspect we will hear something during Macworld.

 

[Aurial]

I'm a firm believer that turn-by-turn is coming. It will probably come from TomTom and be sold on disk. NA maps come in around 1.75GB so downloading is not a likely option and it will most likely be a "special" app that has a different type of installation than the AppStore apps because of size limitations. As far as the GPS being too week, nav units use software to "estimate" your location based on speed and direction along with map information. I've missed turns in my parents car and for a few seconds it showed that I actually made the turn and then jumped to my real location.

Give it time. I suspect we will hear something during Macworld.

You're absolutely right about the chip accuracy. Google Maps places you at where the co-ordinates tell it you are. We all know that at times it can lose the lock, or some of the satelites, and so it gets thrown off slightly from time to time and it shows you in a field or whatever. Satnav software on the other hand tends to limit you to road areas to a greater extent, and therefore even though it might lose line of sight to the satelite, it will still 'assume' that you're on the road rather than in the field. This sort of logic often makes it appear that the chip is far more accurate than it really is, and has probably lead to a lot of the speculation that the iPhone's chip is not powerful enough to be used for Nav, based on this behaviour in Google Maps.

 

[ajthomason]

This turn by turn obsession I find very silly. What is a Tom Tom these days, about $100?

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Society has lost its mind.

I'm sorry, what?

A calculator costs £5, so I should buy one and carry it around with me instead of using one on my phone?

I really hope that you don't browse the internet on your iPhone - a small laptop now only costs about £250. Buy one of those to use instead.

How about music? Before all phones had proper media players, you never once thought that it would be good to stop carrying around that stand-alone MP3 player and just use a phone for music?

I do want turn-by-turn on my iPhone or at least proof that it can't be done properly... but of course Apple won't even let people try. The current Maps app could be adapted for turn-by-turn, just split the screen and automatically update the waypoints as you pass them.

 

[cellocello]

I'm a firm believer that turn-by-turn is coming. It will probably come from TomTom and be sold on disk. NA maps come in around 1.75GB so downloading is not a likely option and it will most likely be a "special" app that has a different type of installation than the AppStore apps because of size limitations. As far as the GPS being too week, nav units use software to "estimate" your location based on speed and direction along with map information. I've missed turns in my parents car and for a few seconds it showed that I actually made the turn and then jumped to my real location.

Give it time. I suspect we will hear something during Macworld.

Not only do I agree with this, I think there's going to hadware in the box ya gotta buy, as well. A dock cable with cigarette lighter plug, and antenna cable coming from the base of it. Maybe a mounting solution... or not, depends how greedy they wanna get.

I think the whole real time turn by turn thing will be heavily marketed as a car only thing, given the apparant battery and signal requirments.

 

[Sdashiki]

Ill reiterate what I said up top:


there aint no turn by turn on OSX thats worth a da** so why expect it in the iPhone?

 

[PixelFactory]

Ill reiterate what I said up top:


there aint no turn by turn on OSX thats worth a da** so why expect it in the iPhone?

Can we agree the iPhone is a different animal than any other Mac. I carry around my iPhone all day. I don't carry my laptop around even once a month. It seems the Navigation companies have an interest in this, so why not expect it.

 

[fkntotalkaos]

a reporter claimed that the iPhone 3gs GPS was too weak to do turn by turn and was clowned when tom tom announced they had something comming. I think the reporter was onto something. From my experience the gps works well about %75 of the time. Compare it to the saMsung instincts gps and you will notice the iPhones deficiency. Beside, if it does come it won't be cheap. Be ready to pay a flat $100+ or a $10 monthly fee.

"Apple's Greg Joswiak, who rejected earlier claims that iPhone 3G's GPS antenna wasn't powerful enough to handle navigation and in turn explained that "complicated issues" are holding the device back from serving as a true navigation unit."

Says TomTom:

“We have made our navigation system run on the iPhone; it looks good and works very well. We will have to look more closely to Apple’s strategy before we can say more about what kind of opportunities this will bring us.”

as for priority of features, that is not the effin point! Push, MMS, and GPS are all important and needed. Why should I have to pick which one comes first. Was I suppose to jump for joy with the release of 2.1....wow, I now have a working iphone with the 2.1 release YEAH! Ummmmn no, the iphone should have worked out of the box, 2.1 should have been the fix we were all anticipating, push, MMS, and turn by turn.


"there aint no turn by turn on OSX thats worth a da** so why expect it in the iPhone?" I can assure you that more people that use PC and windows, use the iphone than you think... Additionally as a long standing member of mp3car.com, and the mac scene there, the gps development on the OSX platform is a different beast, slowed by the intel macs

 

[pkjai1]

You people don't understand that the iPhone is not simply a smart phone. It is essentially a mac in the palm of your hand (at least it has the potential to be). I expect to be able to use the full capabilities of the hardware I purchased, be it the hardware that is on an iPhone or the hardware encased in a full desktop tower.

As long as the iPhone is capable, there is no reason why a wanted feature would not be made available for it. They marketed the iPhone as a phone that has all these hardware capabilities and the marketed the iPhone application platform, with the introduction of the AppStore and the SDK, that the applications that utilizes the hardware capabilities will be available through the AppStore as long as there is a developer willing to develop the software.

It is very reasonable to expect a Turn-By-Turn GPS nav software will be available.

 

[bluenoise]

Yes, I'd love to have the option of TBT navigation on my iPhone. However, it was never promised, nor suggested, so it had no bearing on my decision to buy the phone. Did I want GPS? Yes, because I figured I could use it for the things the phone can currently do (maps, geocaching, geotagged photos, etc.). But I never expected TBT navigation.

What other products do people buy with the hope it will someday do what it doesn't do currently?

 

[fkntotalkaos]

I really don't care. I had a Garmin GPS long before there was an iPhone and a few weeks ago, I bought another Garmin.

The iPhone is supposed to be a phone first and foremost. Any other features are secondary.

I also purchased a new Ipod Nano, and have got a new ipod aver since generation one.... DAMN IT THE MP3 player in the iphone is secondary and just waste battery life, get rid of it..... it is secondary,

 

[pkjai1]

I really don't care. I had a Garmin GPS long before there was an iPhone and a few weeks ago, I bought another Garmin.

The iPhone is supposed to be a phone first and foremost. Any other features are secondary.

When and if a Turn-By-Turn SatNav app comes from Tom Tom or some similar company and works just as well if not better than what you bought recently, you are gonna be kicking yourself in the ass.

 

[fkntotalkaos]

When and if a Turn-By-Turn SatNav app comes from Tom Tom or some similar company and works just as well if not better than what you bought recently, you are gonna be kicking yourself in the ass.

Exactly... Just the ability to sync my phone, to my computer, to my address book, look up stuff, put it in my contacts, then sync my phone, with the mucsic i want to listen to, on my trip, the address I need and the POI's, beats a stand alone Garmin to me, idk, maybe I am simple

 

[hexonxonx]

When and if a Turn-By-Turn SatNav app comes from Tom Tom or some similar company and works just as well if not better than what you bought recently, you are gonna be kicking yourself in the ass.

Not really. My Garmin 880 has speech recognition. I can tell it to find my nearest Apple store, BestBuy, CircuitCity, any city and anything without touching the screen on my GPS.

Oh and my iPhone pairs up perfectly with it and I can have it dial any number just by speaking it.

 

[fkntotalkaos]

Not really. My Garmin 880 has speech recognition. I can tell it to find my nearest Apple store, BestBuy, CircuitCity, any city and anything without touching the screen on my GPS.

Ummmn Iphone can recognize speech.... Dial, CircuitCity, artist, play Korn, etc. I am sure with the new SDK University, it won't be long until those features are surpassed that you mention. EVERYONE, knows stand alone GPS units are on there way out, like the Betamax

 

[hexonxonx]

EVERYONE, knows stand alone GPS units are on there way out, like the Betamax

LOL Too funny!

 

[fkntotalkaos]

LOL Too funny!

But true.....see Tom Tom president's interview

 

[ajthomason]

Ill reiterate what I said up top:


there aint no turn by turn on OSX thats worth a da** so why expect it in the iPhone?

You are aware that saying that is exactly like saying "The Apple TV does not have Blu-Ray drive, so the Mac Pro never will", right?

No mac has a built-in GPS, so why would there be turn-by-turn software for it?

Using your logic: OS X cannot send MMS, so why should the iPhone?

 

[domness]

I've heard these amazing things called Signs.. I'm not sure when they will be implemented.. but I've heard they'll be on the side of the road to point to places!! How amazing!


But in all seriousness.. the GPS on the iPhone IS good enough and all we are waiting now is for GMaps to update as they said they would with the real direction... and we need optional downloadable maps (for use when away from coverage or moving from 3G to EDGE to GPRS [where the signal drops to 0 and then back up again]) Or, Tom Tom or whoever announced that the GPS unit wasn't too small and that they were creating a Turn-By-Turn GPS app for the iPhone.