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I've heard these amazing things called Signs.. I'm not sure when they will be implemented.. but I've heard they'll be on the side of the road to point to places!! How amazing!


But in all seriousness.. the GPS on the iPhone IS good enough and all we are waiting now is for GMaps to update as they said they would with the real direction... and we need optional downloadable maps (for use when away from coverage or moving from 3G to EDGE to GPRS [where the signal drops to 0 and then back up again]) Or, Tom Tom or whoever announced that the GPS unit wasn't too small and that they were creating a Turn-By-Turn GPS app for the iPhone.
hey man I heard that someone discovered penicillin to....
 
Then it must be true!

Meanwhile, there are other people who recognize that one man's opinion doesn't necessarily mean it's fact.

maybe , maybe not, but someone said something about HD DVD last year, and I for one am glad I returned my Christmas present, and got a Blue-Ray instead...
 
Then it must be true!

Meanwhile, there are other people who recognize that one man's opinion doesn't necessarily mean it's fact.

He may be wrong, but as the president of the company that sells more GPS units than any other, and who probably spends a considerable amount more than my salary on market research and analysis, and having actual year by year sales figures to examine I think he probably knows a lot more about the subject than any of us.
 
But true.....see Tom Tom president's interview:cool:

Never heard of an interview with the TomTom president. Give us a link, please.

The only one I know about was Popular Science saying they talked to the head of a "company heavily involved in navigation services", which could be my local grocery delivery for all I know.

Which of course was immediately warped by all the bloggers into "TomTom president says phones will take over individual units"... which isn't going to happen.
 
Yes, I am sorry, I bought the 3G iphone replacing my first Generation for the GPS turn by turn function. I patiently waited for the release of 2.1, search the internet daily, and read the article that was done by Tom Tom. Why had Apple not taken care of this? G1 will have a better GPS as it sits than the 3G iphone, and that make me angry:mad:. WHEN is this going to be fixed Apple? I no i don't want to hear about all the people who use Garmin, Tom Tom portable devices in their car. I used a treo 650 and a GPS unit to the phone. I want a GPS on my phone that provides as Apple said, Turn by Turn Navigaion....:apple:

Umm since when does any Android Phone have turn by turn :rolleyes:

Guys stop complaining, as someone stated, why would you ever buy a device based on Vaporware. Apple never stated that that it would support turn by turn GPS.

It would be a great feature, but I want copy and paste+ stereo bluetooth before any GPS work.
 
He may be wrong, but as the president of the company that sells more GPS units than any other, and who probably spends a considerable amount more than my salary on market research and analysis, and having actual year by year sales figures to examine I think he probably knows a lot more about the subject than any of us.

Fair enough, but until I know what he actually said (with context), I don't think he's correct that standalone GPS receivers are going away. Now, if by "standalone," he meant that all they do is just GPS navigation, then he's probably right. Many units now also play music, offer handsfree voice support via Bluetooth, show traffic hazards/warnings, etc. I don't know if he is counting those as "standalone," but I'd be surprised to hear those are going away in favor of cellphone-based GPS. So many people of my parents' generation would never use navi on their cellphones, but they do use the dash-mounted units or built-in. For one thing, even the iPhone's screen is smaller than many standalone units and that's very important to many people.
 
Umm since when does any Android Phone have turn by turn :rolleyes:

Guys stop complaining, as someone stated, why would you ever buy a device based on Vaporware. Apple never stated that that it would support turn by turn GPS.

It would be a great feature, but I want copy and paste+ stereo bluetooth before any GPS work.
again these are the idiotic posts that bug the crap out of me...."would be a great feature, but I want copy and paste+ stereo bluetooth before any GPS work." wtf says we have to have one or the other? point is we should have them all, right now at the same time, or the phone should not have been released. I hope you cleaned up after yourself as you watched the great news of the 2.1 release...whoa what news that was right???
 
again these are the idiotic posts that bug the crap out of me...."would be a great feature, but I want copy and paste+ stereo bluetooth before any GPS work." wtf says we have to have one or the other? point is we should have them all, right now at the same time, or the phone should not have been released. I hope you cleaned up after yourself as you watched the great news of the 2.1 release...whoa what news that was right???

I understand most of this post except for the part about not releasing the phone until it has every feature you think is important.
 
again these are the idiotic posts that bug the crap out of me...."would be a great feature, but I want copy and paste+ stereo bluetooth before any GPS work." wtf says we have to have one or the other? point is we should have them all, right now at the same time, or the phone should not have been released. I hope you cleaned up after yourself as you watched the great news of the 2.1 release...whoa what news that was right???

Just because a phone doesn't have the ten thousand features specific to your needs it should not be released? Get some perspective.

Got buy a GPS or shutup. It doesn't have turn by turn. You should have know that. Deal with it.

You lived without GPS 10 years ago.
 
They need turn by turn so they know where the short school bus is taking them:p

While they send MSM messages with pictures and video of their genitals.
 
They need turn by turn so they know where the short school bus is taking them:p

While they send MSM messages with pictures and video of their genitals.

Judging by your constructive posts in this thread you'd probably know all about that.

Lets put this into some persective then since you seem so keen to liken this to the arguement surrounding MMS messaging support.

Apple did not specifically say that there will be turn-by-turn support in the iPhone 3G. I'm not disputing that at any stage, however they stated that there was a technology inside it (GPS) which is used for this purpose and it is likely that a lot of people will draw an inference from that statement that turn-by-turn navigation will be supported.

They didn't say "It's got a GPS chip in it, but you won't be able to use it for what most GPS chips are used for, it's only going to show you where you are on this map, which is something we've been doing for ages anyway but we thought we'd throw in a pointless bit of technology."

Now, liken this to the following scenario:

They say at the same announcement that the new iPhone supports Push Email and "it works great with our new Mobile Me service." 'Fantastic,' you think, I've always wanted push email on my iPhone, it is after all a convergence device. So you go out and spend money on it, get it home and go to set up your email account with your exchange server details all ready. But wait, what's this? It ONLY works with Mobile Me! So you go on your friendly forum and say "Oh, I'm dissapointed with this. They said it had push email though, and since limiting it to one provider makes it pretty much useless to the majority of people, they'll probably bring something out soon so I can use my own account." Meanwhile, all the people on your friendly forum are replying "You idiot!!! Where did they ever say it would work with any other email account? God you're so stupid. If it doesn't work with your email account why don't you just go and buy a phone that does! God!", along with the classic "I don't need/use push email and so they shouldn't bother, there's no call for it." (That last one comes up A LOT in the MMS arguement I've noticed.)

Meanwhile Microsoft have had a look at the iPhone and have said "We've developed an ActiveSync client that will allow iPhone users to get their mail from Exchange servers. We're just having a chat with Apple to see about releasing it. They want it written with their own SDK." And then silence.
 
Judging by your constructive posts in this thread you'd probably know all about that.

Lets put this into some persective then since you seem so keen to liken this to the arguement surrounding MMS messaging support.

Well it's likened to that because of the ridicules post and title "Am I the only one pissed about no turn by turn GPS". It wasn't I wish it had turn by turn or it would be great if it had turn by turn, no its the I'm pissed that this device can't do something that no one ever said it could.

What is constructive about this thread to begin with?

Then there is the point that the device has been out for just a little over two months, maybe people could exercise a little patients and self control. It's basically the same reason the US economy is in ruin, everybody wants everything right now.


Apple did not specifically say that there will be turn-by-turn support in the iPhone 3G. I'm not disputing that at any stage, however they stated that there was a technology inside it (GPS) which is used for this purpose and it is likely that a lot of people will draw an inference from that statement that turn-by-turn navigation will be supported.

They didn't say "It's got a GPS chip in it, but you won't be able to use it for what most GPS chips are used for, it's only going to show you where you are on this map, which is something we've been doing for ages anyway but we thought we'd throw in a pointless bit of technology."

There are lots of GPS devices that don't have turn by turn, actually the only ones that do are really the automotive units, handheld topo units don't (I have 3) the one for my aircraft doesn't, nor does the one for my boat. It not a pointless bit of technology, its used for location based services, such as letting you know what stores, and restaurants are around you, which is actually what it was sold as, not a replacement for your automotive GPS unit. But hey why read right, I'll just buy it and bitch.

Now, liken this to the following scenario

They say at the same announcement that the new iPhone supports Push Email and "it works great with our new Mobile Me service." 'Fantastic,' you think, I've always wanted push email on my iPhone, it is after all a convergence device. So you go out and spend money on it, get it home and go to set up your email account with your exchange server details all ready. But wait, what's this? It ONLY works with Mobile Me! So you go on your friendly forum and say "Oh, I'm dissapointed with this. They said it had push email though, and since limiting it to one provider makes it pretty much useless to the majority of people, they'll probably bring something out soon so I can use my own account." Meanwhile, all the people on your friendly forum are replying "You idiot!!! Where did they ever say it would work with any other email account? God you're so stupid. If it doesn't work with your email account why don't you just go and buy a phone that does! God!", along with the classic "I don't need/use push email and so they shouldn't bother, there's no call for it." (That last one comes up A LOT in the MMS arguement I've noticed.)

Again it clearly was advertised as working with Mobile Me, just because the average American doesn't have the attention span (or ability) to read three sentences, why is that Apple's fault. It works perfectly with my Mobile Me account. and if your business depends on getting emails within milliseconds of them being sent, once again get a device that is ultra reliable and known for that, that being the Blackberry. Once again every device can't be everything to everyone. Get educated before you lay down your hard earned money. If you buy something that doesn't work as advertised. I have sympathy for you, if you buy something that doesn't have the feature that you need and it wasn't advertised as having those features I have zero sympathy for you.

Why would they bring something out to work with other providers? Last I saw Apple was a publicly trade company expecting to make profits, not a non profit charity. When is Blackberry going to allow other email providers to have push email on their devices? Maybe what they should have done was just make everyone pay $5 dollars more a month and everyone uses either mobile me or an exchange server?

Meanwhile Microsoft have had a look at the iPhone and have said "We've developed an ActiveSync client that will allow iPhone users to get their mail from Exchange servers. We're just having a chat with Apple to see about releasing it. They want it written with their own SDK." And then silence.

It's their platform and its up to them how they want to control it, again if you don't like the control they exercise then the Apple iPhone as sold isn't for you. On the same token if they let every dork release what ever app they wanted with no control, when it crashes and locks up your iPhone then the people would be bitching about Apple not controlling the quality of the apps. If you want to release your self from their control then go ahead and jailbreak it, but when things screw up, suck it up because its your fault not Apple's
 
Yes, I am sorry, I bought the 3G iphone replacing my first Generation for the GPS turn by turn function. I patiently waited for the release of 2.1, search the internet daily, and read the article that was done by Tom Tom. Why had Apple not taken care of this? G1 will have a better GPS as it sits than the 3G iphone, and that make me angry:mad:. WHEN is this going to be fixed Apple? I no i don't want to hear about all the people who use Garmin, Tom Tom portable devices in their car. I used a treo 650 and a GPS unit to the phone. I want a GPS on my phone that provides as Apple said, Turn by Turn Navigaion....:apple:

You bought a phone for a feature it doesn't have and is expressly prohibited from being developed under the terms of the SDK.
 
It will come eventually, it will just take time. Be patient, like me, I waited a whole year for the iPhone 3G while you Americans, Brits, Germans and French could already enjoy it:D!
 
the iphones not perfect, it'll take a while for apple to get a good program for accurate routes and maps for hundreds if not thousands of cities
 
This turn by turn obsession I find very silly. What is a Tom Tom these days, about $100?

But your phone is suppose to do everything?

How can you use the phone and GPS turn by turn anyway?
People would be crashing into guard rails. :p

Society has lost its mind.
:eek:

excuse me?

1) the iPhone comes with GPS and has the ability to do turn-by-turn. The guy specifically asked in his post that he doesn't want responses mentioning Garmin and Tom Tom. You were the first poster and you had to go there? He has every right to bitch. The only reason there's no turn by turn in the iphone right now is because apple likes to release features every few months so that they attract new customers. People who skipped on the iphone these past few months will want to finally buy one when they realize that it is more functional than their gps unit and only costs 200.

2) the guy can use a bluetooth headset, how exactly would this cause him to crash? how is this an example of society losing its mind?
 
Hopefully not many people have bought an iPhone with the premise of turn by turn directions. Even I thought we'd have turn by turn directions on the iPhone by now. But over 2 months on its still not here. If we dont get turn by turn directions, then id also agree that the GPS implementation is pretty useless
 
Hopefully not many people have bought an iPhone with the premise of turn by turn directions. Even I thought we'd have turn by turn directions on the iPhone by now. But over 2 months on its still not here. If we dont get turn by turn directions, then id also agree that the GPS implementation is pretty useless

It's "pretty useless" for you, but some of us are pleased with what it currently adds to the phone. Would turn by turn be cool? Yes. Is it something anyone should be pissed about? Absolutely not.
 
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