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I did once try a Fitbit when in an exercise for health but it broke before I did.

tbh, I have been prompted by this discussion to look again at the value of the AW. Short of buying the best/latest, I might give a s/h or refurb a whirl. Would the 6 be a fair test and would I have to go for the cellular?

I would have my iPhone in my pocket.
Yes, I think the 6 would be a fair test, and the only reason to have cellular is if you plan to go out with just the watch. Even the wifi only models have gps, so you can run/walk with just the watch and it will track your route.
 
Yes, I think the 6 would be a fair test, and the only reason to have cellular is if you plan to go out with just the watch. Even the wifi only models have gps, so you can run/walk with just the watch and it will track your route.
Thanks. One of the best things I like about the iPhone is being the camera I have with me. Were I to go with the AW only I'd have to invest in a comparable (or better) compact.
 
I did once try a Fitbit when in an exercise for health but it broke before I did.

tbh, I have been prompted by this discussion to look again at the value of the AW. Short of buying the best/latest, I might give a s/h or refurb a whirl. Would the 6 be a fair test and would I have to go for the cellular?

I would have my iPhone in my pocket.
I tried both 6 and 2022 SE. And they are sufficient as AW overall.

But I can’t deal with the slow charging speeds.

The fast charging for series 7 and 8 is a game changer and a must imho.

I’d get a 7 GPS/WiFi if you don’t want to spend a lot.

I’d only get series 6 or older, or SE 2022, if you know you’re never going to do sleep tracking with your AW.
 
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I have an iPhone Mini, small enough for me.
Then I have a Polar training watch, had a couple of them in a row. Small enough on my tiny wrist.
Good for training, and sleep tracking. That's it.

No Apple Watch, not a chance - bulky, ugly and full of useless stuff to me.
 
So seems I’m swimming upstream

I got a ultra, the whole point was to be able to leave my iphone in the car or at home, but still have the necessities

Go to any cafe, restaurant or bar and you see tons of peeps heads down in their phones, as if they are playing battle ship with each other lol

I’m guilty of this too, plus on any given day I have my wallet, iPhone, keys on me, just lots of junk to carry around, like a pack mule

Figured the Apple watch (why isn’t it a iwatch BTW?) would allow me to not haul around my iPhone all the time, figured it can nav, text, email, call and a few other needed things on its own, solo

We’ll it does, but some stuff it needs it mommy, which I don’t get, I mean my iPhone can do pretty much everything the watch can do and much better, if I was worried about my health I could just get a cheap Fitbit or one of those rings, So I don’t get the watch + phone, if I’m going to wear a watch and have my phone, my omega and other mechanicals are far more sexy, guess they didn’t think folks would buy a cellular watch because they don’t want to have to have their ever growing in size smart phone on them?


I’m I the only one who doesn’t get the point of having a Apple Watch and carrying iPhone at the same time?

This is a pretty long post, yet you don‘t specify what it is exactly that you thought the Watch could do without the iPhone but actually can‘t? What is „some stuff“, exactly? Because all the concrete functions you posted - well all of those the Watch can do on its own.
 
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I went back to Android but miss my Apple Watch 7 LTE more than the iPhone 13 Pro it was paired to. I still love MacOS and our household has several Macs and iPads lest people think I'm trolling.

I loved being able to take only my watch when going to the gym, playing sports, or swimming laps. With the watch I could lock my house door, control my garage door, set my home alarm, respond to calls/messages, make purchases, and even unlock my car to drive. All without my iPhone. The added fitness tracking was just a bonus.

I haven't been to a concert in a while but have heard from friends that you have to check your phone into lockers nowadays to prevent photos/videos during the performance. Having a smartwatch with LTE would be very useful so I can still be reached if needed, or if I need to reach out to someone...assuming you don't also have to leave the watch in a concert locker. My Android watch is missing a couple of apps to match the functionality of my old Apple Watch 🙁
 
I have the same thought. No idea why you would wear an Apple Watch and carry a phone at the same time.

I thought people mainly used the watch when they were exercising, hiking, etc. and couldn’t carry their phone.

That said, I am also someone who doesn’t understand why someone would buy an iPhone and an iPad……so probably not the targeted audience here.
 
I'd love to totally replace my iPhone with a watch. But that's a "Someday" thing. The main obstacles:
  • No CarPlay support from the watch
    • Primary reason, I'm sure, is battery life. My car supports wireless CarPlay but I imagine it'd really suck down the battery if the watch could do that!
  • No camera - that's a biggie.
    • There's no way at this point to get a quality camera into a watch, battery life or no... but in a few years, maybe? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • No MFi hearing aid support on the watch. Obviously this doesn't impact everyone but if I want to listen to a podcast or take a phone call - I need the phone.
Beyond those there's the basic issue of data input without a large keyboard, and output without a large screen of course. I think I could deal with those, but the bulleted points are deal-breakers.
 
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I like to use my watch when I am in or heading off site to meetings where I have no need for access to a camera, my music or anything personal, but still need to have my personal phone on me as I have a 93 year old father who I don’t want to confuse by giving my work phone number. It’s peace of mind. Also I can’t lie I do enjoy tracking my activities and occasionally checking my heart rate and blood oxygen.
 
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So seems I’m swimming upstream

You're definitely not alone. I don't like phones and carrying one even less. I even did a post about how "autonomous/self-sufficient" I could be with a Watch + eSim but without an iPhone.
It would be nice if Apple allowed to set your Watch up from a tablet or computer (same for AirPods BTW).
 
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So seems I’m swimming upstream

I got a ultra, the whole point was to be able to leave my iphone in the car or at home, but still have the necessities

Go to any cafe, restaurant or bar and you see tons of peeps heads down in their phones, as if they are playing battle ship with each other lol

I’m guilty of this too, plus on any given day I have my wallet, iPhone, keys on me, just lots of junk to carry around, like a pack mule

Figured the Apple watch (why isn’t it a iwatch BTW?) would allow me to not haul around my iPhone all the time, figured it can nav, text, email, call and a few other needed things on its own, solo

We’ll it does, but some stuff it needs it mommy, which I don’t get, I mean my iPhone can do pretty much everything the watch can do and much better, if I was worried about my health I could just get a cheap Fitbit or one of those rings, So I don’t get the watch + phone, if I’m going to wear a watch and have my phone, my omega and other mechanicals are far more sexy, guess they didn’t think folks would buy a cellular watch because they don’t want to have to have their ever growing in size smart phone on them?


I’m I the only one who doesn’t get the point of having an Apple Watch and carrying iPhone at the same time?
I barely use my phone now that I have the ultra. I basically got the watch to disconnect from my phone and it seems to be working.
 
Folks, there’s no need to choose one or the other. The power of iPhone on your wrist has arrived.
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It sound like you haven’t “retrained” your mind yet to not need the phone… yet. I recently picked up a watch with cellular. Theres definitely a hump to get over releasing oneself from the tether of the phone, but lately I’ve been making conscious decisions to leave it in the car or at home when doing things. It’s taking me back to the 80s and 90s when one can sort of feel autonomous, and yet have the knowledge that I can be reached if needed, or call someone in case there’s an emergency. Of course the phone will display more information and such, but the whole idea is to declutter your head. And that takes time.

Its also just carrying less stuff around, and the battery life of the ultra is pretty good
 
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My Gran thinks none of us need a mobile phone because she doesn’t need one. After all, we managed perfectly fine for decades without one (her words).
Truth, but no one needed one because they simply didn’t exist. So we managed nonetheless and didn’t feel we were missing anything.

One doesn’t appreciate the value of something until you actually have it yourself.
 
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This is a pretty long post, yet you don‘t specify what it is exactly that you thought the Watch could do without the iPhone but actually can‘t? What is „some stuff“, exactly? Because all the concrete functions you posted - well all of those the Watch can do on its own.

Email, sometimes it will get and send email, other times it will say it can’t send because a account isn’t associated or something, re connect to the phone and it’s fine, it’s like every few days it needs to connect to the phone

The lack of a VPN is also a issue, especially in this day and age, doubly so in the international market

Couple other apps don’t work all they well without the phone too, dev making apps for the watch figuring you’ll always have the phone kinda sucks, but I’m sure they have some demographic data they are going off
 
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The watch, for me, is good for some notifications but most of all is an excellent remote control for the music stored on my phone. On a commute I have my 8 plus tucked away in a pocket of my coat and can choose and control my music via the watch. Simple as that really.
 
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Nope, I don’t have, and never have had, an AW and I have zero interest in having one. It works for some people, but in my eyes it’s an expensive and needless toy.

I have my iPhone and on my wrist an old-fashioned analog watch.
I am an Apple girl all the way and never wanted or had any use for an Apple Watch. Until, I went through a long bout of insomnia. I actually bought the AW to see if I was actually getting more sleep than I thought I was. Once I got the watch in addition to the date/time I love being able to see my steps, outside temps, battery and messages with a flick of the wrist. I don’t use the on all the time feature. So for the one that never wanted the watch, I sure am liking it a lot.
 
I am an Apple girl all the way and never wanted or had any use for an Apple Watch. Until, I went through a long bout of insomnia. I actually bought the AW to see if I was actually getting more sleep than I thought I was. Once I got the watch in addition to the date/time I love being able to see my steps, outside temps, battery and messages with a flick of the wrist. I don’t use the on all the time feature. So for the one that never wanted the watch, I sure am liking it a lot.
Don’t have any sleep issues. I know a number of people with AW and I know they like them. But I still have zero interest in having one.

Mind you I don’t do online banking either. I don’t need it.
 
That said, I am also someone who doesn’t understand why someone would buy an iPhone and an iPad……so probably not the targeted audience here.
iPhone for when I'm out and about, iPad when I'm home. Much easier to type and read on the iPad, and games and videos are also better on the bigger screen.
 
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So seems I’m swimming upstream

I got a ultra, the whole point was to be able to leave my iphone in the car or at home, but still have the necessities

Go to any cafe, restaurant or bar and you see tons of peeps heads down in their phones, as if they are playing battle ship with each other lol

I’m guilty of this too, plus on any given day I have my wallet, iPhone, keys on me, just lots of junk to carry around, like a pack mule

Figured the Apple watch (why isn’t it a iwatch BTW?) would allow me to not haul around my iPhone all the time, figured it can nav, text, email, call and a few other needed things on its own, solo

We’ll it does, but some stuff it needs it mommy, which I don’t get, I mean my iPhone can do pretty much everything the watch can do and much better, if I was worried about my health I could just get a cheap Fitbit or one of those rings, So I don’t get the watch + phone, if I’m going to wear a watch and have my phone, my omega and other mechanicals are far more sexy, guess they didn’t think folks would buy a cellular watch because they don’t want to have to have their ever growing in size smart phone on them?


I’m I the only one who doesn’t get the point of having a Apple Watch and carrying iPhone at the same time?
The need depends on your usage. The Watch is capable of a lot but, indeed, has limitations.

I primarily use mine to check time, secondly notifications, and third fitness. I have used replied via Watch a few times, but the task is tedious. Speaking of tedious, I would not want to routinely read full news articles, surf the Web, watch videos, etc on such a small screen.

For me I feel odd not having a watch on, it also shows a respect for time, I very rarely see anyone in my industry who doesn’t wear a watch 🤷‍♂️

When I check a message on the watch I’m 90% sure most everyone knows I’m checking a message or email or something, if I’m in a meeting I don’t check the Apple Watch, but that’s not a Apple Watch thing, if I’m in a meeting with someone I dont look at my very non electronic omega to see the time ether, IMHO it’s disrespectful.
I only ever get that impression from this forum. Never from real life. In real life in real meetings there are often time constraints and people need to be cognizant of their time and contributions.

Being unaware of the time is not “respectful” in my opinion. It’s exactly the opposite.

But only on this forum have I read about people being concerned about being fired for twisting their wrist to check the time too. :D
I think the assumption is if someone checks the time (more than once), they are thinking, “how much longer?” or “is it over yet?"

I did once try a Fitbit when in an exercise for health but it broke before I did.

tbh, I have been prompted by this discussion to look again at the value of the AW. Short of buying the best/latest, I might give a s/h or refurb a whirl. Would the 6 be a fair test and would I have to go for the cellular?

I would have my iPhone in my pocket.
The cellular version is helpful if you don’t want or forget your iPhone but yet need/want to be reachable by others, emergency contact, weather check, etc. However, as convenient/helpful as that functionality is, in my opinion, it’s nice to get away from frequent notifications/alerts for a period.


By the way, I don’t have a cellular Watch because of the added cost and my wireless carrier doesn’t currently support/offer Apple Watch plans, as far as I am aware.
 
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The need depends on your usage. The Watch is capable of a lot but, need, has limitations.

I primarily use mine to check time, secondly notifications, and third fitness. I have used replied via Watch a few times, but the task is tedious. Speaking of tedious, I would not want to routinely read full news articles, surf the Web, watch videos, etc on such a small screen.


I think the assumption is if someone checks the time (more than once), they are thinking, “how much longer?” or “is it over yet?"


The cellular version is helpful if you don’t want or forget your iPhone but yet need/want to be reachable by others, emergency contact, weather check, etc. However, as convenient/helpful as that functionality is, in my opinion, it’s nice to get away from frequent notifications/alerts for a period.


By the way, I don’t have a cellular Watch because of the added cost and my wireless carrier doesn’t currently support/offer Apple Watch plans, as far as I am aware.


Indeed

For me I’m trying to read/watch far less news, and also less everything else
 
Also some industries the iPad is almost a require tool, aviation being one
What is “almost” a required tool? I’ve been out of the aviation community for about 15 years. I remember sectionals were required then and for GA, we used VORs and NDBs. GPS was a luxury I didn’t learn with.

My current career requires a Watch to be worn so if I have to, might as well make it an Apple Watch with all the tech packed into it. The iPhone is pretty much a required personal device these days so yes, I carry both. Would most definitely anyway even if I wasn’t required to wear a watch.
 
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What is “almost” a required tool? I’ve been out of the aviation community for about 15 years. I remember sectionals were required then and for GA, we used VORs and NDBs. GPS was a luxury I didn’t learn with.

My current career requires a Watch to be worn so if I have to, might as well make it an Apple Watch with all the tech packed into it. The iPhone is pretty much a required personal device these days so yes, I carry both. Would most definitely anyway even if I wasn’t required to wear a watch.

We use ipads as EFBs, electronic flight bags, they replace pretty much all of the “paper”

Foreflight was even bought by Boeing
 
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