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A lot of people don't get the iPad and you seem to be one of them. You don't understand that a large format multitouch product allows for different types of interaction than can be achieved on a laptop.

I understand that different interactions are achievable, but only a handful of these interactions are actually superior. Most are inferior.

Typing anything more than a few words is a pain on the iPad compared to an iPhone and especially compared to a notebook. Watching movies is a pain because not only do you have to prop the device up yourself, but you also have to accept the smaller screen size.

You state that the MacBook Air is just a portable as an iPad but it isn't. You can't stand on the train and watch a movie on a MacBook Air.

Have you actually done this? I haven't seen anyone stand and watch a movie on a train (or any other public transit) and I'm a pretty aggressive rider of public transit. Every iPad I've seen on buses and trains has been in the hands of a seated person. I even recall one person who stood for about 10 minutes on a crowded train and only took out his iPad after a seat opened up.

Granted this may have been because the original was too heavy to hold up for too long with one hand. I suppose this could change with time as they become lighter and slimmer.
You can't flick through the pages of a book with one hand while holding it in the other - at least not comfortably. It's also twice he price for an entry level model.

A Kindle (or other e-ink device) works much better for reading. Not only are they a lot cheaper, lighter, and thinner, but they don't cause eye strain (many people can't read off of glossy displays). I have seen tons of these on buses and trains, even while people are standing.

While you would have to spend an additional $139 on an e-ink device and wouldn't have the macbook air, I was merely using the macbook air as a yardstick for value. To have an iPad with 64GB of storage costs 80% as much as a mba with the same storage space and vastly superior capabilities.
You also mistake features for benefits. A feature is all fine and dandy but if I don't need that feature than it's not a selling point. So a product that's twice the costs and nowhere near as portable, despite what you may claim, is not a better option for me unless I need those extra features. If I don't then it's a poor option.

I agree, but I can't think of a benefit in the iPad that I don't already have or that I can't attain at a fraction of the cost elsewhere.

What benefit does it bestow upon you, personally, that you didn't have before or that you couldn't have for less than $500-930? I am genuinely curious to know this, because for the life of me I can't figure it out.

If I want to read, I already have a (cheaper and better) reading device. If I want to watch movies, I already have a tv and a 15" mbp. If I want to surf the web, I have my mbp and an iPhone. If I want to play games I have an iPhone and a mbp, and get-togethers with Wii/xbox. If I want to type something longer than a few words, I have an iPhone and a mbp.
Also, it isn't about what it can do that no other device can do. The iPhone can't do anything that I can't do on other devices but it does allow me to do certain things very easily and more conveniently than I can do them on other devices. That means it has a value.

These are precisely the qualifications I had placed on utility previously. I put forth in an earlier post that utility could be gained in a number of ways, whether it was through aggregation of abilities, an ability to perform a particular set of abilities better, or through the ability to perform a variety of tasks better on average (even if some of them are poorer on the new device). The iPhone is a perfect example of an aggregation device. It doesn't really do much extremely well (there are better browsers, better phones, better iPods, better game devices) but it does do them all in one, which makes it very valuable.

The iPad is better than a laptop for portability and better than a smartphone for viewing media and reading documents.

This is a very narrow set of gains relative to the price. Everyone needs a phone and everyone needs a computer (well almost), so even though smartphones and laptops aren't able to perfectly overlap, they offer a lot of simplicity in that consumers can spend less and achieve a great deal of what they need. There are pockets where this is a problem (our hypothetical train rider who wants to watch a movie while standing up), but how big is this pocket? How likely is it that this pocket is the determining factor to define a need?

Also, how well can the pocket be filled by alternative buying choices? I think all of these factors point to the iPad as being unnecessary for most of us. Again, I have to reiterate that this doesn't mean that buying one is a bad thing. If it brings you happiness to use it, then I don't care. I just think it should be put into perspective. This is a toy and it is largely duplicative.

To suggest that 15 million people bought one last year purely out of gadget lust is frankly insulting to those 15 million people

I'm sure millions last year smoked cigarettes or bought time shares. The consumer is not a wise person, and it would be even unwiser to follow him blindly.
and defys the massive amount of evidence provided by many users as to how the device has made their lives easier or helped them be more productive.

Subjective perceptions of efficiency are always suspect. There is no way to accurately control for many large factors, and if someone is enjoying their new iPad, they may not bother to factor in the time it took to do certain tasks.

However, if someone can offer a unique application of the iPad that was previously undoable or difficult to perform, then that would be a real piece of evidence for its productive value.

I don't mean to sound like a curmudgeon. I want to like the iPad a lot, and I would buy one immediately if I thought I could use it for more than the occasional bout of fun. I really do wish someone could convince me of its utility, but even after playing with it for a while on several occasions, I still haven't figured out how it would be useful.
 
What is particularly strong about the iPad?

I would even accept the iPad's utility if it could do a handful of common tasks decently well such that there was efficiency gained by only having one device. For almost everyone, however, the iPad requires a computer. It replaces nothing.

Granted a computer is needed to activate an iPad but beyond that it isn't needed much. Many people have older computers that work just fine for that task. I advise my friends to consider an iPad if they are thinking of upgrading their laptop or desktop. Most people use a computer for email and web browsing and solitaire. An iPad does those things in a more convenient/efficient way than a laptop or desktop. When you add in the app store it's a no brainer IMO.

If most people did not already own or have access to a PC already I would say your argument would make more sense.
 
i bought a white one at target and was told by one of their employees that each target store (atleast in our area Houston) got 5 ipad 2's of the same model. the one i went to had 5 white 16GB, another one 15 minutes away got 5 black 64GB 3G.

He also said that Target was told by Apple that the reason they only got 5 was that they manufactured 600,000 units in their initial run. Although maybe he just made that number up who knows.
 
The National Android Fanboy Association has issued an official response...

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To this day I can't figure out what the "potential" for the iPad is aside from a handful of very specific tasks in only a handful of professions.

I think it's safe to say that a lot of (possibly most) iPad sales are really iLust and nothing more.



Who's been waiting a decade for this? :confused:

Consumer demand for tablets has been stagnant because for the most part, tablets didn't add any value to an individual's computing needs. The iPad really doesn't add much either for most users, but it is shiny and attractive, combined with a good app store.

You clearly have little imagination, we use our iPad constantly while in the lounge watching TV. Sure we could use a laptop, but they are bigger, heavier and not magical to use like the touch screen iPad.

We use ours for:

- Surfing while watching TV, really great to quickly look things up that you have seen, perhaps pop into the IMDB App to get info on a movie or movie star.

- Email - no need to keep getting up and down to the computer when mail arrives, just pick up the iPad and away you go.

- Book reading - I have only purchased books since I got the ipad, for the iPad. I use Amazon Kindle and iBooks, both are great to read books on. The Sony eReader is now out of use.

Magazine Subs - I get my favourite magazine on the iPad now (T3), much quicker and cheaper. Plus it has video, interactive content and the latest news.

Watching TV, either live, or on demand (like BBC iPlayer), great if you want to watch something other than what is on the main TV.

- Music - Use it instead of my iPod at home

- Games - I was never a gamer, but since I got the iPad I have spent HOURS playing great games. Why? Well price of games makes it easy to buy and try (59p per game in many cases, less than the price of a chocolate bar), PLUs the game play is great on the touch screen. Angry Birds has taken up my life!!!

Apps - So many great Apps like - TV Guide, RSS Readers, YouTube, Tv Catchup, Google Maps, NASA, Weather HD, GarageBand (this is worth getting the iPad alone), FaceBook, and on and on.....

The iPad has totally changed our computer usage at home, we spend more time in the same room together, we share iPad experiences and content, we play games on the iPad together.

The iPad is NOT a computer replacement, it is a life changing device!
 
It's not so much the occurrences and intensities as it is coverage and human population moving to new areas. This earthquake would have been nothing if it weren't for the Tsunami. The 7.2 that happened 2 days before got hardly any coverage at all.

I wish I could believe that but based on statistics tsunamis have been occurring more frequently and with greater intensity. Check out the US gov site on global earthquakes. I remember a year ago when a 5-6 point earthquake hit around Ottawa Canada, people down to NYC felt it. Sure, there are active faults all over, but they have definitely been more frequent.
 
Of all the things you listed here, the one possible reason I'd want to upgrade from my 1 to a 2 is the screen mirroring. I don't have a problem with video and 'Keynote' mirroring, but when trying to explain how to do something on a personal web page, the 1 cannot mirror that web page on a projector. Also, since I don't have an HD projector, I do hope that mirroring works with SVGA projectors as well; it's what I use and I'm not willing to spend more hundreds to upgrade to an HD projector just yet.

jailbreak your device and use DISPLAYOUT.. you can do that on ipad 1.. and iphone 4
 
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This is directed at CalBoy - how about people that want a device to browse the Internet over a 3G connection, but don't want a traditional laptop or netbook (or to pay for the mothly costs for an iPhone which includes more than just data)? That's just one example of where an iPad would be the best device for the needs of an individual.

You have to understand that the purpose of an iPad isn't necessarily to replace any item, but to act as a supplement device. It's also incredibly portable, and if I don't need the added features of a MBA or other small laptop, why buy one? For you an iPad obviously has no real worth. For others, they enjoy using it more than a laptop or smartphone. To dismiss everything that the iPad does as inferior is foolhardy, because at the end of the day it's all subjective.
 
I understand that different interactions are achievable, but only a handful of these interactions are actually superior. Most are inferior.

Typing anything more than a few words is a pain on the iPad compared to an iPhone and especially compared to a notebook. Watching movies is a pain because not only do you have to prop the device up yourself, but you also have to accept the smaller screen size.



Have you actually done this? I haven't seen anyone stand and watch a movie on a train (or any other public transit) and I'm a pretty aggressive rider of public transit. Every iPad I've seen on buses and trains has been in the hands of a seated person. I even recall one person who stood for about 10 minutes on a crowded train and only took out his iPad after a seat opened up.

Granted this may have been because the original was too heavy to hold up for too long with one hand. I suppose this could change with time as they become lighter and slimmer.


A Kindle (or other e-ink device) works much better for reading. Not only are they a lot cheaper, lighter, and thinner, but they don't cause eye strain (many people can't read off of glossy displays). I have seen tons of these on buses and trains, even while people are standing.

While you would have to spend an additional $139 on an e-ink device and wouldn't have the macbook air, I was merely using the macbook air as a yardstick for value. To have an iPad with 64GB of storage costs 80% as much as a mba with the same storage space and vastly superior capabilities.


I agree, but I can't think of a benefit in the iPad that I don't already have or that I can't attain at a fraction of the cost elsewhere.

What benefit does it bestow upon you, personally, that you didn't have before or that you couldn't have for less than $500-930? I am genuinely curious to know this, because for the life of me I can't figure it out.

If I want to read, I already have a (cheaper and better) reading device. If I want to watch movies, I already have a tv and a 15" mbp. If I want to surf the web, I have my mbp and an iPhone. If I want to play games I have an iPhone and a mbp, and get-togethers with Wii/xbox. If I want to type something longer than a few words, I have an iPhone and a mbp.


These are precisely the qualifications I had placed on utility previously. I put forth in an earlier post that utility could be gained in a number of ways, whether it was through aggregation of abilities, an ability to perform a particular set of abilities better, or through the ability to perform a variety of tasks better on average (even if some of them are poorer on the new device). The iPhone is a perfect example of an aggregation device. It doesn't really do much extremely well (there are better browsers, better phones, better iPods, better game devices) but it does do them all in one, which makes it very valuable.



This is a very narrow set of gains relative to the price. Everyone needs a phone and everyone needs a computer (well almost), so even though smartphones and laptops aren't able to perfectly overlap, they offer a lot of simplicity in that consumers can spend less and achieve a great deal of what they need. There are pockets where this is a problem (our hypothetical train rider who wants to watch a movie while standing up), but how big is this pocket? How likely is it that this pocket is the determining factor to define a need?

Also, how well can the pocket be filled by alternative buying choices? I think all of these factors point to the iPad as being unnecessary for most of us. Again, I have to reiterate that this doesn't mean that buying one is a bad thing. If it brings you happiness to use it, then I don't care. I just think it should be put into perspective. This is a toy and it is largely duplicative.



I'm sure millions last year smoked cigarettes or bought time shares. The consumer is not a wise person, and it would be even unwiser to follow him blindly.


Subjective perceptions of efficiency are always suspect. There is no way to accurately control for many large factors, and if someone is enjoying their new iPad, they may not bother to factor in the time it took to do certain tasks.

However, if someone can offer a unique application of the iPad that was previously undoable or difficult to perform, then that would be a real piece of evidence for its productive value.

I don't mean to sound like a curmudgeon. I want to like the iPad a lot, and I would buy one immediately if I thought I could use it for more than the occasional bout of fun. I really do wish someone could convince me of its utility, but even after playing with it for a while on several occasions, I still haven't figured out how it would be useful.


Wow... and I thought I over thunk things!

Simple... like it, want it, or need it... buy it! Otherwise.... sit back and let others have their fun.
 
Granted a computer is needed to activate an iPad but beyond that it isn't needed much. Many people have older computers that work just fine for that task. I advise my friends to consider an iPad if they are thinking of upgrading their laptop or desktop. Most people use a computer for email and web browsing and solitaire. An iPad does those things in a more convenient/efficient way than a laptop or desktop. When you add in the app store it's a no brainer IMO.

If most people did not already own or have access to a PC already I would say your argument would make more sense.

Add a display out, USB ports, and that's a valid argument. As it is, you can attach bluetooth keyboards and a mouse (without a jailbreak? I forget) and can technically use it as a small computer. Jailbreaking it will allow use of the USB camera adapter as a USB connection, so technically, it wouldn't be a bad system for the average consumer. Isn't there a dock that stands it?
 
I said it already, I'll say it again. The iPad is becoming huge with the Wii/Soccer mom/kid/Grandma crowd. I'm amazed how many kids I see at restaurants playing with iPads. It's the user experience that Apple has mastered. They don't need retina displays, 8 jillion GB memory or 25 MP cameras and 4 HDMI outputs. They've nailed the user experience, and app developers are taking it the rest of the way. iPad's/tablets are going to be as common place as computers I believe in about 3 years, and it will look a lot like the iPod/MP3 player market. A lot to choose from, but most people will choose the Apple product first.
 
You clearly have little imagination, we use our iPad constantly while in the lounge watching TV. Sure we could use a laptop, but they are bigger, heavier and not magical to use like the touch screen iPad.

We use ours for:

- Surfing while watching TV, really great to quickly look things up that you have seen, perhaps pop into the IMDB App to get info on a movie or movie star.

- Email - no need to keep getting up and down to the computer when mail arrives, just pick up the iPad and away you go.

- Book reading - I have only purchased books since I got the ipad, for the iPad. I use Amazon Kindle and iBooks, both are great to read books on. The Sony eReader is now out of use.

Magazine Subs - I get my favourite magazine on the iPad now (T3), much quicker and cheaper. Plus it has video, interactive content and the latest news.

Watching TV, either live, or on demand (like BBC iPlayer), great if you want to watch something other than what is on the main TV.

- Music - Use it instead of my iPod at home

- Games - I was never a gamer, but since I got the iPad I have spent HOURS playing great games. Why? Well price of games makes it easy to buy and try (59p per game in many cases, less than the price of a chocolate bar), PLUs the game play is great on the touch screen. Angry Birds has taken up my life!!!

Apps - So many great Apps like - TV Guide, RSS Readers, YouTube, Tv Catchup, Google Maps, NASA, Weather HD, GarageBand (this is worth getting the iPad alone), FaceBook, and on and on.....

The iPad has totally changed our computer usage at home, we spend more time in the same room together, we share iPad experiences and content, we play games on the iPad together.

The iPad is NOT a computer replacement, it is a life changing device!

"All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation, medicine, education, irrigation, public health, roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans ever done for us?"
 
I don't mean to sound like a curmudgeon. I want to like the iPad a lot, and I would buy one immediately if I thought I could use it for more than the occasional bout of fun. I really do wish someone could convince me of its utility, but even after playing with it for a while on several occasions, I still haven't figured out how it would be useful.

I appreciate all your statements in regards to the iPad but I also note a slight amount of disdain for those who do find them useful.

I don't own one yet, but will very soon and it will replace a 6 year old Power Book. I also have a Mac Mini which is my primary computer. The PB is used almost totally for genealogy purposes and whenever I travel. I'm not a heavy inputter, so the iPad's small touch screen keyboard isn't an issue for me. What I do want is something that powers up quickly, has a long battery life, can be shared easily with multiple people around a table and is light weight.

The iPad really is ideal for my purposes and I'm sure that for the millions of others who have bought one, they feel the same way.

Just the other day I read where 30% of those who use a laptop for work will never be able to use the current tablets. These people are heavy users of spreadsheets, PhotoShop, etc. However, many people don't need such software and a tablet will suit them just fine.

Right now, we're looking at iPad 2, Kindle 2, Nook 2, etc. In other words, tablets are in their infancy and will only get better over time.

You good sir, are in the minority.
 
Calboy, just a heads up if you haven't noticed already: the majority of people don't agree with you. Myself included.

There may now even be close to 20 million iPad users worldwide who probably disagree with you.
 
I understand that different interactions are achievable, but only a handful of these interactions are actually superior. Most are inferior.

Typing anything more than a few words is a pain on the iPad compared to an iPhone and especially compared to a notebook. Watching movies is a pain because not only do you have to prop the device up yourself, but you also have to accept the smaller screen size.



Have you actually done this? I haven't seen anyone stand and watch a movie on a train (or any other public transit) and I'm a pretty aggressive rider of public transit. Every iPad I've seen on buses and trains has been in the hands of a seated person. I even recall one person who stood for about 10 minutes on a crowded train and only took out his iPad after a seat opened up.

Granted this may have been because the original was too heavy to hold up for too long with one hand. I suppose this could change with time as they become lighter and slimmer.


A Kindle (or other e-ink device) works much better for reading. Not only are they a lot cheaper, lighter, and thinner, but they don't cause eye strain (many people can't read off of glossy displays). I have seen tons of these on buses and trains, even while people are standing.

While you would have to spend an additional $139 on an e-ink device and wouldn't have the macbook air, I was merely using the macbook air as a yardstick for value. To have an iPad with 64GB of storage costs 80% as much as a mba with the same storage space and vastly superior capabilities.


I agree, but I can't think of a benefit in the iPad that I don't already have or that I can't attain at a fraction of the cost elsewhere.

What benefit does it bestow upon you, personally, that you didn't have before or that you couldn't have for less than $500-930? I am genuinely curious to know this, because for the life of me I can't figure it out.

If I want to read, I already have a (cheaper and better) reading device. If I want to watch movies, I already have a tv and a 15" mbp. If I want to surf the web, I have my mbp and an iPhone. If I want to play games I have an iPhone and a mbp, and get-togethers with Wii/xbox. If I want to type something longer than a few words, I have an iPhone and a mbp.


These are precisely the qualifications I had placed on utility previously. I put forth in an earlier post that utility could be gained in a number of ways, whether it was through aggregation of abilities, an ability to perform a particular set of abilities better, or through the ability to perform a variety of tasks better on average (even if some of them are poorer on the new device). The iPhone is a perfect example of an aggregation device. It doesn't really do much extremely well (there are better browsers, better phones, better iPods, better game devices) but it does do them all in one, which makes it very valuable.



This is a very narrow set of gains relative to the price. Everyone needs a phone and everyone needs a computer (well almost), so even though smartphones and laptops aren't able to perfectly overlap, they offer a lot of simplicity in that consumers can spend less and achieve a great deal of what they need. There are pockets where this is a problem (our hypothetical train rider who wants to watch a movie while standing up), but how big is this pocket? How likely is it that this pocket is the determining factor to define a need?

Also, how well can the pocket be filled by alternative buying choices? I think all of these factors point to the iPad as being unnecessary for most of us. Again, I have to reiterate that this doesn't mean that buying one is a bad thing. If it brings you happiness to use it, then I don't care. I just think it should be put into perspective. This is a toy and it is largely duplicative.



I'm sure millions last year smoked cigarettes or bought time shares. The consumer is not a wise person, and it would be even unwiser to follow him blindly.


Subjective perceptions of efficiency are always suspect. There is no way to accurately control for many large factors, and if someone is enjoying their new iPad, they may not bother to factor in the time it took to do certain tasks.

However, if someone can offer a unique application of the iPad that was previously undoable or difficult to perform, then that would be a real piece of evidence for its productive value.

I don't mean to sound like a curmudgeon. I want to like the iPad a lot, and I would buy one immediately if I thought I could use it for more than the occasional bout of fun. I really do wish someone could convince me of its utility, but even after playing with it for a while on several occasions, I still haven't figured out how it would be useful.

You really don't get it do you?
Unless you have had the iPad in your life then you won't understand.
What I find stupid is that you think you are 'right' and the 15 million happy iPad users are 'wrong'. Clearly you are entitled to your opinion, and it may well be that you are happy to use all the multitude of devices you own. I on the other hand find that the iPad has become indispensable around the house.

I had a Sony eReader, no use in bed / low light as you have to have the light on, in fact it needs a bright light to be able to read it easily. That is actually a negative for me. I don't get eye strain with the iPad and I use it for reading a lot.

We have a Wii, it is never used, the iPad on the other hand is hardly off, we need 2 really as sometimes we both want to use it.

We have a computer in the lounge, yes we still us it for producing content, writing long documents, editing movies, etc. But that is what the computer is for, and not what the iPad is for. We also have a 13" MacBook Pro which rarely sees the light of day any more. It does not go on holiday with us anymore, not sure what we will use it for in the future to be honest.

We have a TV, but we both don't always want to watch the same thing, the iPad fills that gap. It is also great to watch TV in bed (we don't have a big TV in the bedroom) or in the kitchen or garden.

If you don't want an iPad then please feel free to not buy one, but DON'T tell me and other people that it is not useful. IT IS NOT USEFUL TO YOU, MAYBE, but for me and my family it is great!
 
"All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation, medicine, education, irrigation, public health, roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans ever done for us?"

You so made me laugh!!! and I read it on my iPad!!!!
 
It's amazing what you can do by bringing out what should have been your first generation device.
I agree that it would've been nice to have Facetime/video cameras in the first one. I bought the first one. But doing so would've ate into Apple's profit margins too much for an unproven device. It makes sense that they just can't give away everything+kitchen sink in the 1st generation. At least to me.

Also, Facetime was not out yet and that would've stolen a big selling-point away from June's iPhone 4 announcement — it would've been just ho-hum-iPhone 4-has Facetime too. By leaving it out, Facetime made a much bigger impact for Apple's iPhone 4 sales.

Now, with 15M+ iPad sales, Apple can negotiate better with suppliers for deep discounts on the millions of cameras they will need to buy. Until iPad proved itself, it was too big of a gamble.

You'd see this if you just opened your eyes.
 
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You really don't get it do you?
Unless you have had the iPad in your life then you won't understand.
What I find stupid is that you think you are 'right' and the 15 million happy iPad users are 'wrong'.!

Pretty much. Rather silly to argue about something without owning it first hand. I take any kind of criticisms from such people with a grain of salt.
 
You fanboys are making me sick!

i was one of those one million!! (i know its not the actual number, but i bet its close!) I was number 20 in line at Best Buy and i got the LAST white 32GB iPad 2!! I was super juiced...sucks for the other 200 people behind me though

Quit being a hater fanboy! Just because the folks behind you didn't get your precious "white" ipad 2 doesn't mean they are any lesser. #Win

Congrats to Apple! My iPad 3 is going to be amazing because of all you early adopters! Keep it up!
 
Quit being a hater fanboy! Just because the folks behind you didn't get your precious "white" ipad 2 doesn't mean they are any lesser. #Win

Congrats to Apple! My iPad 3 is going to be amazing because of all you early adopters! Keep it up!

sounds like you were one of the 200 in line that didn't get one. come on the guy is obviously excited and rightfully so since he really wanted one and got the last one at the store he went to. why must you rain on his parade.
 
someone else said:
What I loved about the haters is that they called this 1.5 when in reality, this should have been the iPad and what those crybabies did was buy the iPad .5 before it was fully developed. Don't hate us for buying the new version when the product was complete. Hate yourselves for not being able to wait for a completed project. You guys got screwed by Apple, not us.

poppycock. ipad1 was and is of daily value in my business and my home. like any other tool it does a job and does it well.

what youve said above is just an elaborate bit of cognitive dissonance in order to justify your opinions & behavior. psychology 101, mate.
Let's illustrate that point... Thanks Mdelvecchio, for putting the proper label on a lot of the haters who (for whatever reason) can't "reach the grapes"!

When the fox fails to reach the grapes, he decides he does not want them after all, an example of adaptive preference formation, designed to reduce cognitive dissonance.
 

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sounds like you were one of the 200 in line that didn't get one. come on the guy is obviously excited and rightfully so since he really wanted one and got the last one at the store he went to. why must you rain on his parade.

Why must you jump to conclusions? I wasn't standing in line for the iPad 2. Seriously, I am really waiting for the iPad 3 (Retina Display, better cameras, etc). Sure, I am glad this guy is happy about his iPad 2, but I am noticing a trend on this board/forum - most of you are constantly belittling each other. I am sick of it! Just be happy you are an Apple fan and that others are Apple fans instead of saying you got something someone else didn't. Who cares, but you?
 
Let's illustrate that point... Thanks Mdelvecchio, for putting the proper label on a lot of the haters who (for whatever reason) can't "reach the grapes"!

When the fox fails to reach the grapes, he decides he does not want them after all, an example of adaptive preference formation, designed to reduce cognitive dissonance.

who says he can't reach the grapes. they are just sour and after all who wants sour grapes :p
 
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sounds like you were one of the 200 in line that didn't get one. come on the guy is obviously excited and rightfully so since he really wanted one and got the last one at the store he went to. why must you rain on his parade.

Why must you jump to conclusions? I wasn't standing in line for the iPad 2. Seriously, I am really waiting for the iPad 3 (Retina Display, better cameras, etc). Sure, I am glad this guy is happy about his iPad 2, but I am noticing a trend on this board/forum - most of you are constantly belittling each other. I am sick of it! Just be happy you are an Apple fan and that others are Apple fans instead of saying you got something someone else didn't. Who cares, but you?

Reading his post, it sounds like you are jumping to conclusions by calling him a fanboy. Likewise you're belittling him by calling him a fanboy. What he said was true; it does "suck" for those 200 people who were behind him in line if supplies were running low. I think you should take some of your own advise.
 
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Reading his post, it sounds like you are jumping to conclusions by calling him a fanboy. Likewise you're belittling him by calling him a fanboy. What he said was true; it does "suck" for those 200 people who were behind him in line if supplies were running low. I think you should take some of your own advise.


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