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Yep, USB port doesn’t do anything. But they never claimed it did, so...

I like amplifi. I have five cubes and a teleport. Rock stable. Current up time nearly two months, and I’ve only had to reboot because of firmware updates. iOS app is great. It’s a little confusing that a few settings require going to a web page and the rest are in the app. The teleport is a very neat thing and I use it a lot. I get good Wi-Fi and wired performance. My outside connection is about 280mbps, and I understand some people with gigabit connections claim they don’t get full speed, but I have no experience with that so I can’t opine.
Sounds pretty decent actually.
Something I was wondering, within the app does it show the current link speed with each device? I've always loved this feature with the AirPorts and not many other routers have this.
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Sounds pretty decent actually.
Something I was wondering, within the app does it show the current link speed with each device? I've always loved this feature with the AirPorts and not many other routers have this.
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Yes. It tells you: access point, band, Rx and tx bitrate, Mimo status, etc. You can group devices into groups (e..g by family member) and “pause” them. You can also set up timed guest networks, which is a nice improvement over airport. I currently have 45 wireless and 6 wired clients, and its all running smoothly. (Thermostats, ring cameras, kindles - it all adds up! :).
 
Yes. It tells you: access point, band, Rx and tx bitrate, Mimo status, etc. You can group devices into groups (e..g by family member) and “pause” them. You can also set up timed guest networks, which is a nice improvement over airport. I currently have 45 wireless and 6 wired clients, and its all running smoothly. (Thermostats, ring cameras, kindles - it all adds up! :).
This is awesome! :) Thanks for that I will definitely have another look at these, checking current stats is my top priority and I haven't found something else that could come close to the AirPorts.
Netgear is junk.
 
This is awesome! :) Thanks for that I will definitely have another look at these, checking current stats is my top priority and I haven't found something else that could come close to the AirPorts.
Netgear is junk.
My only advice is to avoid the kits. When you get the kits, the remote extenders are locked to the base unit. If you ever want a more complicated set up, this can cause problems. In my case I just bought individual cubes and used some of the cubes to wirelessly extend the network, and some to extend with wired backhaul. In some cases there are two hops to the cube directly connected to the cable modem. If I had bought the kits, it would be more difficult because some extenders could only connect directly to some cubes.
 
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Lol... I'm a dumb ass, still too early for me I guess. I glanced over the article reading it as APPLE bought Eero. I'm like, sweet my dreams of an Apple TV/Mesh wifi combo system may actually happen. I started reading the comments, everyone's like Amazon this and Amazon that. Alexa steals my information. I'm saying to my self "Jesus dumb asses read the ****ing article. Christ you people are dumb today."
 
Which Ubiquiti and why?

I did the Unifi line (USG + [2] NanoHD) - mainly because I'm an engineer and like to toggle switches and knobs. They are a little more work to get set up than a homeowner may have patience for. The performance has been great and worth the effort if you like to tinker.

My dad went with the Amplifi line and he has been happy as well. Better coverage and performance than he had with the Airports and very minimal effort to set up.

I skipped Eero because although they were a contender, I was leery of the company's staying power and the subscription push was telling me they needed cash. I am of the school that networking gear should be 100% mine, not cloud managed, not phoning home, and not require subscriptions for optimal performance. Not to mention they cost more than the Ubiquiti stuff did (at the time).

I did dabble with Google WiFi for a bit and if you can get past sweating about Google, it was a very easy and simple system to use.
 
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... Apple is already building their own 5G modems that’ll be integrated into their A-series chips. There’ll be no need for local networks, therefore no need for an updated AirPort, in the same way there’s no need for Apple to develop an updated SuperDrive.

Yikes! There's no way I'm going to just want to connect all my devices directly to some telco.

5G has a shorter range than LTE because it’s lower power. That enables smaller, easier to install transmitters, virtually everywhere you look, if you know where to look. This will result in a higher diversity of transmitter locations and more redundancy, resulting in higher reliability.

Except that instead of a big tower miles away (unless you're unlucky enough to live under it), there will have to be a unit like every 100ft or something? It might be lower power, but lots closer. Hopefully the power will be lower at the device level, but it's also a different (higher) frequency, I think.

One of my concerns is the way this is being rail-roaded into place. They probably want to pull an 'Uber' (push it in, ask for forgiveness later) before proper studies of health impacts can be done or other factors. The telcos have been going to city councils and 'donating' money in exchange for that council to push 5G through. Reporters who write negative articles about it have lost jobs. Something smells fishy here.

They've just gone from Eero to zero.
AirPort Extreme is the still the best solution for security, privacy and ultimate seamless integration across all your devices.

I think I might have to go find an AirPort Extreme. I know they are older, but they have 'ac' so it should be good for a while. The other option is to buy a WiFi router known to work well with Tomato or one of the open-source projects. While there is a good bit of complexity to setup and way, way too much to tweak, the somewhat default setups work well. I ran one of those up until our last move... but I don't really like running off the telco's WiFi/router unit.
 
We all want Apple to get back into the AirPort router products again. But I can't stop thinking that they can't get the Wireless charging "Air Power" out the door since in was introduced over a year ago.
 
We all want Apple to get back into the AirPort router products again. But I can't stop thinking that they can't get the Wireless charging "Air Power" out the door since in was introduced over a year ago.
They already had a very successful wireless router. I don't think it would be that difficult for them to restart production and morph it into mesh. They are selling Linksys routers on their site, but that doesn't mean they won't switch back to making their own. They still sell the Lenovo displays also, but appear to be going back to making their own displays again. We can only hope they will see this and decide to get back into building their own networking gear.
 
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We all want Apple to get back into the AirPort router products again. But I can't stop thinking that they can't get the Wireless charging "Air Power" out the door since in was introduced over a year ago.

no we all dont want them.. they werent magical but expensive and quite neclected products - too long delay updating the firmware and security holes, if batched at all.
 
So not only has Google jumped into the WiFi router market, but now amazon has too? Meanwhile, Tim Cook allows the Apple Airport line of WiFi routers to not receive any refreshes since 2013 and eventually get completely cancelled. Nice one, Mr Cook! Let’s hear it for the CEO of the world’s most valuable company who’s preoccupied with politics and social activism!
 
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Eero is decent...but doesnt come close to the Velop system

When it came time to replace my airport system I was intrigued by Eero. It seemed similar to Apple in spirit. But ultimately I too went with Velop for three reasons. 1) The speed. I have a Fios Gigabit connection and Eero was not up to that... Velop is. 2) The configurability. Verizon routers can be picky, Velop plays well with them. 3) The UI. Eero's might have been better, but Velops was good enough and gave me access to a lot of parameters Eero did not.

Oh, and yeah, the speed. My network screams, and the WIFI coverage in my house is great. Huge improvement over what I had with the airport alone (admittedly not optimized)
 
So not only has Google jumped into the WiFi router market, but now amazon has too? Meanwhile, Tim Cook allows the Apple Airport line of WiFi routers to not receive any refreshes since 2013 and eventually get completely cancelled. Nice one, Mr Cook! Let’s hear it for the CEO of the world’s most valuable company who’s preoccupied with politics and social activism!

I might just be a matter of motivations. Amazon and Google have a really good reason to get into the router market... what better place to tap into the rich information? Will we see a Facebook router soon, too?

Apple doesn't make their money that way, so there is much less incentive. BUT... maybe with enough public pressure around privacy, Apple might decide they can play off that marketing angle.
 
Ring, Eero, Alexa devices. They’re taking over your home folks!

This could have been Apple. They were in a position to really take over the home years ago but they blew it by dropping their router business and treating the Apple TV like a hobby.

Other companies saw the potential and filled the gap.
 
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This could have been Apple. They were in a position to really take over the home years ago but they blew it by dropping their router business and treating the Apple TV like a hobby.

Other companies saw the potential and filled the gap.

Yeah, they are late to the game (or absent) on several things, because they seem to have been able to only focus on one product. Well, and where they focused on other things, it was silly stuff like fashion, pop-culture, TV shows, AI cars, etc.

At least they are starting to come back on the Mac again, so hopefully someone has some common sense there and will get them back on track in other areas too. Yes, Apple TV and HomeKit are great examples of areas where they could be much further along than they are.
 
5G has a shorter range than LTE because it’s lower power. That enables smaller, easier to install transmitters, virtually everywhere you look, if you know where to look. This will result in a higher diversity of transmitter locations and more redundancy, resulting in higher reliability.

This is why Apple has divested itself from WiFi. 5G will overtake it. I’m not saying this as a hunch, it’s the actual intended purpose of 5G, by design, to make cellular connectivity ubiquitous from the biggest devices to the most mundane. There’ll be 5G chips in virtually everything that has a CPU. There will be no need for WiFi.
Ah But that brings up the same issue that’s plagued past networks: coverage. Once you get into suburbs and rural areas, there’ll be virtually no 5G.
 
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Smaller cities and suburban areas are not going to have reliable 5G coverage for years. For the utopian network you’re talking about you’d need a 5G antenna (and connected back end) on every telephone pole or street light post. I just don’t see it happening outside major metropolitan areas for a long time.

Right.. and on top of this, you have to separate the utopian technology from the carriers that will be looking to boost their bottom lines. They aren't going to embrace a new tech and suddenly give everyone unlimited data at ridiculous speeds for a great price.
 
This could have been Apple. They were in a position to really take over the home years ago but they blew it by dropping their router business and treating the Apple TV like a hobby.

Other companies saw the potential and filled the gap.

Adding to this: Siri sucks and was left in the dust by Alexa and Google. Home Kit is too locked down to be useful. Privacy comes with this cost of not being as good, some people are ok with that and embrace that trade off.
 
Its almost like the two things have nothing to do with one another.

Well, what they have in common, is that they aren't the iPhone. (Or, AI cars, or pop TV shows, or one of the many other 'shot in the dark' attempts at Apple's future.)

Adding to this: Siri sucks and was left in the dust by Alexa and Google. Home Kit is too locked down to be useful. Privacy comes with this cost of not being as good, some people are ok with that and embrace that trade off.

There is a bit of truth to the idea that w/o compromising privacy more, Apple gets less context for certain kinds of requests. But, that has little to do with how bad Siri is. Most of the types of things Siri can't do don't need such data, yet they still fail.

Look at it this way... have you ever tried to search for a podcast or app? If Apple can't get basic mid-'90 level search engine capability right, they sure can't get more advanced machine learning and sophisticated parsing, etc. kind of stuff right.
 
The opportunity to maintain even a tenuous foothold in the growing IoT/home automation/networking market.

The opportunity to keep its hardware business diversified.

The opportunity to own/operate a company that was a pioneer in mesh networking, even if it meant operating it as a separate entity. Instead, Apple has spent $3B on a fashion headphone company, in an acqui-hire where those principals are no longer even part of the company.

What is Apple's home strategy? Whatever it is, it's not working.

"Works with Alexa/Google" is nearly ubiquitous. "Works with HomeKit" is often more of a question where the answer is "no."

Yes, Apple made HomeKit hard to implement, and with high privacy safeguards. But even after the effort to make it easier, HomeKit still lags, and has been relegated to second-class citizen in IoT.

Past Apple peripherals, including AirPorts and printers, weren't necessary the biggest sellers. But they were first-party reference quality products that showed users and third-parties the template for what could be done, and how it could be done.

Apple's reliance on third-parties to promote HomeKit has failed, but Cupertino doesn't seem to notice. Now it's left to play catch up to Amazon and Google.

Those two can be rightly criticized for their privacy stances, but privacy and home automation aren't mutually exclusive. Where are the options for such products that do respect privacy, in line with Apple's stated principles? There is demand for that, but choices are limited.

The Home market is one that Apple has entirely failed to recognize, seize, and capitalize on. HomePod was already too little, too late, and ain't gonna do it.
Keep on dreaming pal. Only geeks are adopting ‘smart home’ garbage.Only when new homes or hotels come with HomeKit ,then it will matter. Not before that. The Beats purchase has been a great buy from Apple. It actually makes money. Plus allowing Apple to make W1 chips available at wider scale. So, just keep on dreaming about useless ‘home automation’ . Apple is just doing fine with Beats.
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So not only has Google jumped into the WiFi router market, but now amazon has too? Meanwhile, Tim Cook allows the Apple Airport line of WiFi routers to not receive any refreshes since 2013 and eventually get completely cancelled. Nice one, Mr Cook! Let’s hear it for the CEO of the world’s most valuable company who’s preoccupied with politics and social activism!
No. Apples business philosophy is not the same as Goolag & Amazon. Amazon & Goolag mainly want your data, at any cost. Even selling $20 WiFi garbage mics. Same goes for useless home automation. This is a geeks world. It will only matter when homes & hotels come prebuilt with HomeKit.
 
I'm thinking Amazon will build this in their Echo Plus and maybe even Echo devices... Just like Apple should do with their Homepod.
 
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