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I bet Snow Leopard is a higher seller than Windows 7 between September and December on Amazon.com. It will only show that market share doesn't mean anything. It is who is spending the money.

There are still people using Windows XP and buying computers with XP on them.
 

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Mac Box Set.

Are they going to offer the box set that won't reflect the whole pricing of snow leopard? For example I can buy a box set but currently I'm using tiger so that's a good deal for me. There should be a box set for leopard users so I can upgrade my ilife and get an iwork at a cheaper price.
 
Wow, bunch of whining based on Amazon's packaging and Apple not even putting it up on their site yet and people blaming Apple.

For those who are can't figure it out:

Upgrade = MUST HAVE 10.5 installed first
Retail OR Amazon's Box Set = Can install fresh without 10.5

So far it's Amazon's Box Set, not Apple's. I would be pretty sure Apple would offer the following: Upgrade disk, Retail disk. Offering a package box set is not in Apple's history. Package deal (buy both for a cheaper price) but still offer a retail disk.

But if you would rather be negative and start bashing em now, go for it. Otherwise, have some patience and wait what the official source has to offer rather than Amazon.


what the heck are you talking about...

the box set is a full version of snow leopard and ilife and iwork.

the upgrade is just SL for someone with leopard already.

The point is that Apple wants to get EVERYONE using snow leopard and iLife/iwork 09. Thats why there will be no option to purchase snow leopard full version standalone. it's either the upgrade, or the ilife/iwork/snow leopard box set.

duh.
 
It keeps going from bad to worse; first Apple can't be bothered getting their act together to deliver 64bit X3100 drivers so that Snow Leopard runs in 64bit mode - something like that shouldn't be left till the last minute; it should have already been done by now.

Now they're doing this ass-hattery forcing customers to have Leopard preinstalled which results in a stupid reinstallation fiasco everytime a customer wishes to restore their system.

I swear, for all the bright people who apparently work at Apple, alot of them seem to be devoid of common sense.

Honestly, how often does a Mac user need to restore their system? :p
 
Doubt that will happen.

Apple has shown many times that it trusts its users. For example the Leopard single user and Leopard 5 user is the exact same disk. You can install Leopard single user on as many Macs as you like, but Apple trusts you to do the right thing. No serials, no activation, no genuine disadvantage.

If you have Tiger, you can be dishonest and get Snow Leopard for $29, or you can be honest and pay $169 for the box set. There wont be any disk checking.

That's how I think it will go down. Essentially purchasing Snow Leopard on the honor system.

I have to admit, considering Apple's past performance, I would be surprised if you guys are wrong. Particularly if you take to heart the reasoning (marketing, tech, liability) behind the low price to begin with. They WANT us to upgrade to 10.6.

Also, the question you have to ask is, exactly how many people are out there who have an Intel Mac, but don't already have an OEM or retail version of 10.5? Probably not that many people. The (possible) goodwill behind announcing the low price to upgrade likely would include taking a hit from those who cheat, and upgrade straight from 10.4-10.6.

If that is the case, I doubt there WILL be a version check, and the 10.6 disk will do a clean install even on a blank drive.
 
I hope customers aren't forced to have Leopard on their systems already because that is really going to bugger up those of us who wish to do a clean install or re-install it without needing to first re-install Leopard.

I guess I'll be forced to get the boxed pack if Apple chooses to go down the stupid path of detecting the previously installed operating system.

Edit: The above reason is why I voted it down; time for Apple to get its act together.

I would think that (using the upgrade disk installer) only drives with Leopard installed would be labeled available drives and once that disk is selected, you could choose to do a clean install.
 
Wow, bunch of whining based on Amazon's packaging and Apple not even putting it up on their site yet and people blaming Apple.

For those who are can't figure it out:
Upgrade = MUST HAVE 10.5 installed first
Retail OR Amazon's Box Set = Can install fresh without 10.5

So far it's Amazon's Box Set, not Apple's. I would be pretty sure Apple would offer the following: Upgrade disk, Retail disk. Offering a package box set is not in Apple's history. Package deal (buy both for a cheaper price) but still offer a retail disk.

But if you would rather be negative and start bashing em now, go for it. Otherwise, have some patience and wait what the official source has to offer rather than Amazon.

I don't know why this is so confusing for people. Straight from the horse's mouth:

How to get Mac OS X Snow Leopard.

<snip>

Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.
If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set (when available), which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard; iLife ’09, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork ’09, Apple’s productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.

And here:
Pricing & Availability
For Tiger® users with an Intel-based Mac, the Mac Box Set includes Mac OS X Snow Leopard, iLife® ’09 and iWork® ’09 and will be available for a suggested price of $169 (US) and a Family Pack is available for a suggested price of $229 (US).
 
Why some people always have problems and some have none?
I wonder why other people are always having problems as well.

I never said it was frequent but it does happen. I just image blast back to the previous known working version at work or restore via Time Machine at home.

It's not a grave concern but it does exist.
 
I've bought a 2.26Ghz 13.3" MacBook Pro on 30th June 2009 from the official Romanian distributor. Am I qualifying for the Up To Date program, even if I live in Romania? Or do I have to check for a local equivalent of the Up To Date program?
 
I've bought a 2.26Ghz 13.3" MacBook Pro on 30th June 2009 from the official Romanian distributor. Am I qualifying for the Up To Date program, even if I live in Romania? Or do I have to check for a local equivalent of the Up To Date program?

I'd think you would be, if your dealer is Apple Authourised. But they could best answer the question.
 
Well... I think they're the authorized dealer for the European region I'm in. Is there a way I can check with Apple, or do I have to email the corporation in my country?
 
Yes, the first thing that came to my mind when seeing this post was, "will I have to install 10.5, THEN install 10.6 whenever I need to reinstall the OS?"

In the past, could you even do an erase n' install with an upgrade disk?

Ditto this. I HATE upgrading. I'll never do it because it's a stupid idea. Clean installs are always the better idea. Will this $29 version of Snow Leopard require a previously installed version of Leopard?
 
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