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Ditto this. I HATE upgrading. I'll never do it because it's a stupid idea. Clean installs are always the better idea. Will this $29 version of Snow Leopard require a previously installed version of Leopard?

Oh, gross. like the drop-in i have for a Titanium powerbook... what a drag. If it's like that, count me out, I rather pay full go for a family pack of Snow Leopard and be done with it. It is not fun remembering that you have a use for an "obsolete" piece of software and that the "obsolete" thing is REQUIRED to make use of something else you paid money for.
 
I've bought a 2.26Ghz 13.3" MacBook Pro on 30th June 2009 from the official Romanian distributor. Am I qualifying for the Up To Date program, even if I live in Romania? Or do I have to check for a local equivalent of the Up To Date program?
Apple's website states that the up to date program is for U.S. and Canadian customers only. http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

Will this $29 version of Snow Leopard require a previously installed version of Leopard?

The $29 version is the same as the $9.95 version, they are both upgrade discs which require a pre-installed version of Leopard.
 
The $29 version is the same as the $9.95 version, they are both upgrade discs which require a pre-installed version of Leopard.
I'm OK with the $29 upgrade needing the actual Leopard disk, but I'm not so thrilled with the idea of having to do a complete install of Leopard first, then doing a wipe and install.
 
I'll wait for Apple on this one. They also do same-day delivery guarantee's on the OS's so I might as well do that.
 
Apple's website states that the up to date program is for U.S. and Canadian customers only. http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/



The $29 version is the same as the $9.95 version, they are both upgrade discs which require a pre-installed version of Leopard.

The way the upgrade will work :

Each Mac has a unique UUID in the EFI.
When you stick the "upgrade" disk in it will look for this UUID and if it matches the kind of Mac sold with Leopard it will ask you if you want to do an upgrade,a clean install or an archive and install.
If the UUID doesn't match it will ask you to stick a previous version of Leopard in the optical drive.
If you don't have a previous version of Leopard on a DVD it will tell you Snow Leopard upgrade can't be installed on this Mac. Please purchase the full version or the Box set.

just an opinion..We all have them.:)
 
I bought an MBA two days after updated.

I qualified and ordered via the up-to-date program the day it was available for Snow Leopard for $9.99.

It just finally charged my credit card today. My thought is that they cannot charge me until certain number of days before shipping??? I think it's a good thing and means it will be earlier than late September??? At the same time, how long does it take to finalize and make all disks and packaging once code is ready?

Anyone think we will see Marble?
 
Snow Leopard FAQ

There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding Snow Leopard, so I thought I'd do a FAQ using the answers that I would choose to supply:

Q: Does it come with iLife?
A: No. And if you have iLife, it will erase it, and all of the files you created with it, because they are not 64-bit-compatible files.

Q: Can students get an educational discount?
A: Of course, but the student version will not include, or allow you to install, iTunes or Quicktime as Apple feels these could be a distraction from your studies.

Q: Do I have to install Leopard first to install a Snow Leopard upgrade?
A: No. By "upgrade", Apple meant that it was an upgrade to the empty disc that your system shipped with.

Q: Does the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade include the most current version of iWork?
A: Absolutely, it includes that at no cost. It also comes with media and licenses for Aperture, Final Cut Studio, Logic Studio, and Snow Leopard Server.

Q: It says that it requires an Intel CPU. Will it run on my 1999 iBook with a G3 CPU?
A: Of course it will. Apple was just kidding about the requirement for an Intel CPU. It is fully compatible with all Macintosh systems, though users of earlier systems will need to contact Apple to purchase 3.5" floppy disk media.

Q: When will it be available on the UK Amazon site?
A: Amazon is working to assure the UK government that the reference to "improved Bluetooth support" in no way means that the product promotes, or could be used for, dental hygiene. Once that is cleared up, we expect them to lift their ban on its sale.

I hope that this post has answered the questions that I have seen here and elsewhere.
 
The way the upgrade will work :

Each Mac has a unique UUID in the EFI.
When you stick the "upgrade" disk in it will look for this UUID and if it matches the kind of Mac sold with Leopard it will ask you if you want to do an upgrade,a clean install or an archive and install.
If the UUID doesn't match it will ask you to stick a previous version of Leopard in the optical drive.
If you don't have a previous version of Leopard on a DVD it will tell you Snow Leopard upgrade can't be installed on this Mac. Please purchase the full version or the Box set.

just an opinion..We all have them.:)

it may do that or may just trust us. I really do not believe we will have to do a complete installation of Leopard before installing Snow Leopard. Surely Apple will have a simple method as with everything else.
 
There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding Snow Leopard, so I thought I'd do a FAQ using the answers that I would choose to supply:

Q: Does it come with iLife?
A: No. And if you have iLife, it will erase it, and all of the files you created with it, because they are not 64-bit-compatible files.

Q: Can students get an educational discount?
A: Of course, but the student version will not include, or allow you to install, iTunes or Quicktime as Apple feels these could be a distraction from your studies.

Q: Do I have to install Leopard first to install a Snow Leopard upgrade?
A: No. By "upgrade", Apple meant that it was an upgrade to the empty disc that your system shipped with.

Q: Does the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade include the most current version of iWork?
A: Absolutely, it includes that at no cost. It also comes with media and licenses for Aperture, Final Cut Studio, Logic Studio, and Snow Leopard Server.

Q: It says that it requires an Intel CPU. Will it run on my 1999 iBook with a G3 CPU?
A: Of course it will. Apple was just kidding about the requirement for an Intel CPU. It is fully compatible with all Macintosh systems, though users of earlier systems will need to contact Apple to purchase 3.5" floppy disk media.

Q: When will it be available on the UK Amazon site?
A: Amazon is working to assure the UK government that the reference to "improved Bluetooth support" in no way means that the product promotes, or could be used for, dental hygiene. Once that is cleared up, we expect them to lift their ban on its sale.

I hope that this post has answered the questions that I have seen here and elsewhere.

Thanks, that really was the information I needed :rolleyes:
 
Does anyone know if there is site specific browsing (a la Fluid) for Safari 4 for Snow Leopard? It's not in Leopard and reports have said that it is coming.
 
I qualified and ordered via the up-to-date program the day it was available for Snow Leopard for $9.99.

It just finally charged my credit card today. My thought is that they cannot charge me until certain number of days before shipping??? I think it's a good thing and means it will be earlier than late September??? At the same time, how long does it take to finalize and make all disks and packaging once code is ready?

Anyone think we will see Marble?

Double check that. Apple and most other online retailers only do a pre-authorization on your credit card and do not fully charge until ship day.
 
I'll wait for Apple on this one. They also do same-day delivery guarantee's on the OS's so I might as well do that.

They might not necessarily do that because Snow Leopard isn't as big of a deal as Leopard was. I don't even think there will be a line at Apple stores for SL. Does anyone else believe the contrary?
 
So (potentially)...

1. Clean install 10.5

2. Upgrade install 10.6

and inevitably, 3. Patch update install 10.6.x

Maybe they will incorporate some dramatic graphic between steps 1 and 2, showing the recovery of 6GB of now unnecessary system cloggage that had to be installed anyway.

In my understanding, you can put in a disk, and clean install, without uninstalling first. So I guess every time you want to do a clean install on snow leopard, you could just put in the 10.6 disk. it would detect that you are in fact running 10.6 (10.5 or later) and then go on to do a clean install, so it shouldn't be that big a problem.
Can't understand why everyone's making such a big deal about reinstalling. Some people are willing to go as far as paying 100 extra dollars just to be able to clean install faster. Its not like you need to clean install every week.
Cmon it'll probably take an extra hour either. And you don't even need to be around. So peopl relax. Save your money.
 
They might not necessarily do that because Snow Leopard isn't as big of a deal as Leopard was. I don't even think there will be a line at Apple stores for SL. Does anyone else believe the contrary?

Yes, I do.
If there was a line at the apple store for leopard, there will be a line for this. Cuz, its just $29, and to many people, its a bigger deal than leopard. While all leopard did was get a lot of new features, that many people didn't care about, and actually made some machines slower. This is putting all its energy in the right place and giving every machine a much needed speed bump.
 
There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding Snow Leopard, so I thought I'd do a FAQ using the answers that I would choose to supply:

Q: Does it come with iLife?
A: No. And if you have iLife, it will erase it, and all of the files you created with it, because they are not 64-bit-compatible files.

Q: Can students get an educational discount?
A: Of course, but the student version will not include, or allow you to install, iTunes or Quicktime as Apple feels these could be a distraction from your studies.

Q: Do I have to install Leopard first to install a Snow Leopard upgrade?
A: No. By "upgrade", Apple meant that it was an upgrade to the empty disc that your system shipped with.

Q: Does the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade include the most current version of iWork?
A: Absolutely, it includes that at no cost. It also comes with media and licenses for Aperture, Final Cut Studio, Logic Studio, and Snow Leopard Server.

Q: It says that it requires an Intel CPU. Will it run on my 1999 iBook with a G3 CPU?
A: Of course it will. Apple was just kidding about the requirement for an Intel CPU. It is fully compatible with all Macintosh systems, though users of earlier systems will need to contact Apple to purchase 3.5" floppy disk media.

Q: When will it be available on the UK Amazon site?
A: Amazon is working to assure the UK government that the reference to "improved Bluetooth support" in no way means that the product promotes, or could be used for, dental hygiene. Once that is cleared up, we expect them to lift their ban on its sale.

I hope that this post has answered the questions that I have seen here and elsewhere.
Epic, made my day :)
 
That was a stupid decision, IMO.



Don't pass this on a fact, because it isn't. We'll know when we get our discs.

Actually that isn't the decision at all. Obviously, you were seeing the American website, so it says the offer is only for american and canadians. Just go over to your own country's apple website, and you'll find the same offer there as well. Obviously, they can't have the exact same offer throughout the word. So in a legal way, they are all different offers offering the exact same thing.
(btw, I checked myself, and they have the same offer in India, where they don't even have apple stores.. So no probs)
 
In my understanding, you can put in a disk, and clean install, without uninstalling first. So I guess every time you want to do a clean install on snow leopard, you could just put in the 10.6 disk. it would detect that you are in fact running 10.6 (10.5 or later) and then go on to do a clean install, so it shouldn't be that big a problem.
My point was, should the 10.6 install require that 10.5 be detected on the drive, then when you do a clean install onto a blank drive, you need to install a larger, (in comparison) bloated OS just so it can be seen. It seemed ironic, is all.

I don't think this will be the case, but nobody knows. Apple has yet to release an OS bump at this price point.

Some people are willing to go as far as paying 100 extra dollars just to be able to clean install faster. Its not like you need to clean install every week.
Cmon it'll probably take an extra hour either. And you don't even need to be around. So peopl relax. Save your money.
I think of larger studios, where any unnecessary time spent managing one system is magnified thirty-fold.
 
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