Amazon Begins Accepting Pre-Orders for Mac OS X Snow Leopard

[Shake 'n' Bake]

Oh really? Point to me where it says otherwise. I would really appreciate it if you would check your facts and back them up before telling someone else they their statements aren't factual.

You ought to as well.

If you want to promote using patched versions of OS X and people violating EULA's then you should post elsewhere in a forum that promotes such immoral acts.

It looks like sarcasm, but in text form, it's hard to tell. Most people here are, from what I've observed, OK with Hackintoshes.

Wonder if its worth to buy an iMac now or wait until the release of Snow Leopard.

Will they include snow leopard with all new purchases?

For the first few weeks Apple puts a drop-in DVD in the box, so you can install either Leopard or SL.

 

[brad.c]

How do I know? It's been that way since OS X 10.1. When did you become a Mac user? Also, I am speaking from experience, your philosophy is just wrong. If it doesn't require detectable instal of 10.5 then explain to all of us here why Apple says snow leopard upgrade is for Leopard users? How would it know unless it detected it?

I don't know about your experience, but you must be thinking of Adobe. No boxed version of 10.x has ever depended on an existing installation. Disks shipped with hardware may be specific to that device, but not boxed retail versions. Not since long before 10.1.

I've been using since 6.0.x. Roll them eyes a little further back, my friend.

 

[Amdahl]

I borrowed a friends upgrade disk once to put Leopard on my eMac (it was a slip in as she bought her computer right after Leopard was released) and if I remember correctly you could do an erase and install from the disk. It was exactly the same as a retail copy, only it said on it that it was an upgrade copy. So I would think that Snow Leopard will be no different and would allow you to do an erase and install from that disk.

There was a trick that would let you do this, by starting a Time Machine restore and then not starting it. Back at the regular install screen, you could proceed without upgrade verify.

 

[joeshell383]

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[macshill]

It's gonna be great.

 

[Chris Rogers]

Am I going t have to reinstall all of my applications??

 

[macintoshtoffy]

How is that a fiasco?

If that's the case then the Snow Leopard disk will only include the new files and will thus be small and quick.

So you'd spend, say, 30 minutes installing Leopard and then 10 minutes upgrading it to Snow Leopard.

Oh no When I instal Final Cut Studio it's something like 6 or 7 disks I think. But having to use 2 here is a "fiasco?"

Yeah, because upgrade installations always work oh-so-perfectly *rolls eyes*.

 

[macintoshtoffy]

Maybe you'll have to have Leopard installed for the SL installer to detect, but you'll be able to do an erase and install.

Which is useless when one wishes to do a reinstall - if you want to re-install Snow Leopard you'll have to reinstall Leopard first then install Snow Leopard; a two step process simply to re-install an operating system.

 

[Peace]

Am I going t have to reinstall all of my applications??

You probably won't have to but I always do a clean install of a new release. And keep in mind doing a clean install allows you to not install Rosetta if you don't have any PPC apps.

 

[150hp]

I found this part of the page to be a bit disturbing ...

Me too.

 

[macintoshtoffy]

Yeah he did- he also said that OS X for years had both PowerPC versions and Intel versions on the disk. I thought that was kind of cool and they knew that PowerPC might not cut it one day.

He never said that. He stated that both x86 and PowerPC were built nightly/weekly to ensure that architecture dependent code wasn't added - something that would allow them to also create iPhone OS (ARM) as well as x86 versions of Mac OS X.

 

[fishkorp]

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To people worried about delivery, every single item I've ever pre-ordered from Amazon has been delivered on or before release date. That goes for movies, music, video games, and software.

 

[inkswamp]

It keeps going from bad to worse; first Apple can't be bothered getting their act together to deliver 64bit X3100 drivers so that Snow Leopard runs in 64bit mode - something like that shouldn't be left till the last minute; it should have already been done by now.

Now they're doing this ass-hattery forcing customers to have Leopard preinstalled which results in a stupid reinstallation fiasco everytime a customer wishes to restore their system.

I swear, for all the bright people who apparently work at Apple, alot of them seem to be devoid of common sense.

Wow, you like jumping right over the edge based on nothing but pure speculation, huh?

Anyway, given the jaw-droppingly low price and the fact that reinstalling OS X is a once-in-a-very-blue-moon kind of thing, I think it's something I can live with.

Am I just getting old or does this all seem needlessly whiny? Anyone else remember the old days of having to sit there with a pile of floppies when doing these kinds of things? Nowadays it's too much work to use 2 DVDs?

Quit bellyaching and go enjoy the $100 you're not spending on this upgrade.

 

[HLdan]

I don't know about your experience, but you must be thinking of Adobe. No boxed version of 10.x has ever depended on an existing installation. Disks shipped with hardware may be specific to that device, but not boxed retail versions. Not since long before 10.1.

I've been using since 6.0.x. Roll them eyes a little further back, my friend.

Please re-read my post of Q&A's. Nowhere did I say the boxed set requires a pre-installation of Leopard. I did in fact state that the upgrade discs do. Thanks.

 

[macintoshtoffy]

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To people worried about delivery, every single item I've ever pre-ordered from Amazon has been delivered on or before release date. That goes for movies, music, video games, and software.

I could get it sent to where I live via remailing service but given the amount of questions surrounding Snow Leopard, I would sooner wait to find out what the proceedure is going to be when it comes to detection (if any).

Will they have no detection under the assumption that if you are running Tiger, the box set is so compelling with iLife (given one would have to upgrade anyway) and iWorks, the number who will go straight for the Leopard to Snow Leopard Upgrade disc is very few.

I know I am looking at the Boxed set instead on the basis that if I am going to upgrade to Snow Leopard I might as well upgrade iLife as well.

 

[C64]

So when you buy this $29 Snow Leopard upgrade, does that mean that it is actually an upgrade disk, thus requiring Leopard 10.5 to be installed? Or can I also do a clean install of 10.6 using this disk? I have Leopard (bought, original, legal), but I don't want to upgrade but rather go for a fresh start.

 

[BWhaler]

Awesome. It still feels a long way away, but I guess it's only another eight weeks or so.

As I said for the last few releases, I hope Apple takes their time and gives us a great OS. After the Leopard release headaches, I'm more than happy to wait.

 

[macintoshtoffy]

Wow, you like jumping right over the edge based on nothing but pure speculation, huh?

One month to go before development cut off and shipping to the CD printers - I doubt they're going to pull an x3100 or 950 driver out of their behind at the last minute. If it hasn't been included with the last several builds, its not going tbe included at all.

Great, its official that my white macbook is completely useless. I might as well douse it in gasoline and set a lighter to it given Apples attitude of abandoning end users, even if their computers are less than 6 months old.

I was happy to miss out on OpenCL due to a technical limitation of hardware but there is no excuse for not having X3100 and 950 drivers in 64bit.

 

[pilotError]

So when you buy this $29 Snow Leopard upgrade, does that mean that it is actually an upgrade disk, thus requiring Leopard 10.5 to be installed? Or can I also do a clean install of 10.6 using this disk? I have Leopard (bought, original, legal), but I don't want to upgrade but rather go for a fresh start.

They say you have to have a Leopard disk in order to install it, but I'm sure someone will figure out how to do a clean install...

 

[Peace]

One month to go before development cut off and shipping to the CD printers - I doubt they're going to pull an x3100 or 950 driver out of their behind at the last minute. If it hasn't been included with the last several builds, its not going tbe included at all.

Great, its official that my white macbook is completely useless. I might as well douse it in gasoline and set a lighter to it given Apples attitude of abandoning end users, even if their computers are less than 6 months old.

I was happy to miss out on OpenCL due to a technical limitation of hardware but there is no excuse for not having X3100 and 950 drivers in 64bit.

How is your white Macbook completely useless ? Do you use it now ?

Just because it won't run the 64-bit kernel doesn't mean the OS won't run better.

 

[brad.c]

Q. Are the $9.95 and $29 Snow Leopard DVD's actually "upgrade" discs only?
A. No. Both prices include a full version of Mac OS X Snow Leopard. They are called upgrades because both will only install on Macs with OS X Leopard pre-installed. Each DVD will allow you to fully erase, format and install Snow Leopard once it checks for a pre-installed version of Leopard.

Q. Why would I want to buy the boxed set?
A. The boxed set will include a DVD of Snow Leopard that does not require you to have Leopard pre-installed. In fact you can install it on an empty hard drive. Also included will be the iLife suite.
Q. I bought a Macbook in May 2009, will I qualify for the up-to-date DVD?

Please re-read my post of Q&A's. Nowhere did I say the boxed set requires a pre-installation of Leopard. I did in fact state that the upgrade discs do. Thanks.

Could you link to where you got that information? I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying it's just your opinion, which you are passing off as fact.

In fact, the 10.6 box for $29 looks the same as the one included in the iWork + iLife set. Why would it have different installation protocol? Looks like you may be wrong on that one, too.

Oh, you're welcome.

 

[lamadude]

No. You're wrong. SL will still have support for 32 bit files. iLife will remain on the computer when you install SL. Stop pulling info out of you're ass.

He's joking! Have you read any of the other Q&A's in that post?? It couldn't be more obvious...

 

[arisia12]

Any stata or matlab users here? I've been using mac for almost 2 yrs now, mostly use it for computing using those 2 softwares, and it's been great.

Given my previous experience on updating OS with windows, does upgrading to SL will affect how stata or matlab works? I have stata 10 and matlab 7.6 installed. Any info would be great. Thanks a bunch.

 

[freiheit]

That's great! Love the upgrade price.

This is great. Unfortunately what I want is the Snow Leopard upgrade with iWork 09 and iLife 09 as a "Mac Upgrade Box Set". Oh well, I've lived this long without iWork and iLife, I guess I can keep going or try to find them on sale for a few bucks off MSRP.

 

[farleysmaster]

Which is useless when one wishes to do a reinstall - if you want to re-install Snow Leopard you'll have to reinstall Leopard first then install Snow Leopard; a two step process simply to re-install an operating system.

I'm sure if you already have Snow Leopard installed you'll be able to reinstall over that. It will just have to be at least 10.5 you have already installed.